Missouri Bullets and discount?

[Missouri Bullets and discount?]

If those 125-grain, 357 cartridges feed well in your rifle and shoot point-of-aim in your revolvers, stick with them.  The 158-grain bullets are a traditional load, but not needed for CAS.  I recommend Missouri Bullet's softer, coated bullets.  The softer bullets work better at CAS velocities and the plastic coating keeps your loading dies and hands clean.

 

There are plenty of quality casters supplying the CAS sport.  I try to buy from those who sponsor SASS matches I attend.

[You are the King/ Queen of SASS]

37 minutes ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

I like the idea of a 22 category for adults. 

Two Ruger Wranglers, Henry lever and various shotgun.

 

This removes a huge price objection from start up cost.

Full array of guns under $1000.00

 

Plus no need for reloading equipment - eliminating another startup cost.  Further, painting targets after every shooter eliminates scoring problems.

[Where does our membership money go?]

1 hour ago, Shotgun Clay said:

Been in NM about 30 years and have never seen the New Mexico state magazine. 

I have seen it often.  My favorite feature is One of our 50 is missing. 

[You are the King/ Queen of SASS]

Leave successes alone.  Moving WR would just gut a very successful match.  It would take years to duplicate it elsewhere.

The number of categories is not a problem for local clubs.  It's just more entries in a scoring program.  Many clubs don't have an annual match.

Allow adults to shoots .22s.  That would eliminate the cost of reloading equipment and lessen ammo costs.  Further, .22 firearms are less expensive than centerfire firearms.  Centralized regionals is probably not possible.  From the number of regionals that move each year there seems to be a problem getting a club to host one.  I agree that marketing is a key.  I don't think youth are the target group.  CAS seems to appeal mainly to "empty nesters."  Wolf Bane was very helpful when he was involved in the sport.  I agree that further simplification of the rules is in order.

[Another school shooting]

There are reports that law enforcement arrived two minutes after being called.  Kudos for the local police!

[BP in a Marlin 1894]

I have the same experience with black powder when shooting straight-walled cartridges in a 1894 Marlin.  I need to squirt Ballistol in the action every other stage and breakdown and clean after every day of shooting to keep them running.  Marlins breakdown so easily that cleaning out BP fouling is quick and easy.

[SASS membership benefits?]

14 hours ago, Yul Lose said:

The SASS discount at the Comfort Inn in Edgewood, N.M. saved me a few hundred dollars at EOT last year and will do so again in 2020. 

I have not used the discount codes as I have better discounts through other affiliations.  The EOT discount for the nearby Hidden Valley RV park is quite valuable.  I have advised foreign visitors to EOT to use the SASS discount for rental cars as other discount codes may not be available to them.

[Stumbled upon an SASS event]

Keep attending the matches where you just shot.  Bring factory 38 Special, all-lead cartridges and low-recoil 12 gauge shotgun shells with you and shoot all the guns offered to you.  You will have preferences.  Don't buy guns yet but do get a stiff, wide belt and a western hat. 

[my brass is splitting]

Others have reported that Black MZ was discontinued.   I load both APP and Triple Seven in cartridges without the damage pictured.  When I used to shoot Pyrodex in a shotgun I had to clean immediately upon returning home.   I never reloaded spent SG shells.  They would rust my reloading equipment.

 

How long did you store the 38-40 rounds before firing them?  There are reports of cereal forming a hard plug in bottleneck cartridges during storage.  I only use cream of wheat as a filler in cap and ball revolvers that will shot the same day loaded.  There are inert fillers that are well-behaved in long term storage.

[Do newbies need gun carts?]

You can build one on the chassis of a used baby stroller - often available at garage sales.  Two local shooters have done so with good results.  Golf carts, baby strollers and gun carts use the same chassis.

[Lost brass at monthly match?]

I shoot 44 mags in Wild Bunch and find 45 Colts and 44-40s mixed in with my brass.  I give them to Garrison Joe.  He makes good use of them.

[Lost brass at monthly match?]

8 hours ago, Equanimous Phil said:

Thank you both for your answers!

 

 

 

I think I will start with reloads for the revolvers with my once used brass while still shooting factory loads in the rifle. Unfortunately, Starline brass is quite expensive around here, but sooner or later that's the way to go. Now, I gonna mark my ammo

I have some revolver cases with Lapua and Norma headstamps.  It is quality brass.  If you can buy these cases in Europe I would not bother with imports from the USA.

 

Recently I bought a batch of GECO-stamped, once-fired, 38 Special brass.  I've only reloaded them once, but was satisfied with the cases.  I only paid $0.03 per case.

[Favorite black mz 38 special load]

Too bad about MZ being discontinued.  It made inexpensive SG shells, was non-corrosive and not hydroscopic.  I liked it for matches when I was making a road trip. 

[Lost brass at monthly match?]

7 hours ago, Equanimous Phil said:

 

Probably a newbie question, but how do you mark it? Just with sharpie on the base?

I don't reload yet but I intend to do so in the future and I am gathering the brass of the factory ammo I currently shoot. Now I'm considering to already mark my factory ammo for easier differentiation.

 

Equanimous

There is merit in that approach.  I only shoot virgin or once-fired brass in my rifles at major matches.  It is less likely to split and lock up my rifle.  I use brass reloaded many times in my revolvers and in my rifle for local matches.  Keep your quality brass segregated from brass that may be ready to split.

[Windy Gap Regulators, Cortez, Co.]

8 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

Passing of an era. 
We will try to make the final Revenge of Montezuma an event to go down in history!

I hope to make this match.  The Revenge is a fun match in a good venue.

 

[Shotshell load]

47 minutes ago, Jeb Stuart #65654 said:

Already tried that, they don't list that powder anymore.

Interesting.  Hodgdon's Reloading Data Center still lists loads for WAALite.  I use their load for 7/8 oz shot.  Why not load 7/8 oz?

[Shotshell load]

How to contact Winchester Powder.

[Bit off more than I can chew I think]

ED, after you get done with this project and those youngsters start shooting circles around us senior citizens, somebody needs to nominate you for a regulators badge.  I don't say this half-heartedly.  You will deserve it.

[Trick or Treaters]

Last night was quite cold by local standards and the children went home early.  Many of the boys were dressed as Spiderman.  I had some large candy bars bought on sale at Costco.  Most of the kids wanted Kit Kats.  I thought these would be the least popular.  I was hoping some of the Reeses would be left for me.  I got my wish.

 

BTW, leftover plastic jack 'o lanterns sell for 25-cents after Halloween.  I buy some and set them up as shotgun targets.  Buckaroos and Buckarettes love blasting them.

[Shotgun reloading supplies]

Wads are easy to buy online since they are lightweight.  I buy mine from a local, big box retailer or buy them online combined with other purchases.  Try to buy shot locally as it is expensive to ship.  Check with local clays ranges as they know where to shop locally or may have some to sell for members.  FYI, if you plan to load low recoil SG shells it is worth reloading.  If you just want to bust clays or are willing to shoot common shotgun target loads there is little money to be saved.  Blackpowder shotgun shells are another matter.  You really must reload them.

[Best .32 bullet]

The 78 grain bullets are probably the lightest you can buy.  Do your children a favor and use coated bullets so they are not exposed to metallic lead.  I buy from Bang 'n Clang but there is probably a local caster in your area.  If the children are old enough they have to knockdown targets to score, 115 grain bullets work well for knockdowns.  My wife shoots N320 in her 32s - a clean burning (and expensive) powder.  Bullseye worked great but she found it too dirty.  You probably have a powder on hand that will work well in 32s.

[Shotgun Reloading Info]

1 minute ago, bgavin said:

Thanks!
I looked at Billy D... shipping costs are too high to make them practical.
I can pick up Gun Club new shells locally at $5.99 per box and re-use those Remington hulls.

I understand either G.C. or STS are good for mutliple reloads.
Q: what is the difference?

Gun Clubs have a steel base and ribbed plastic.  They hang up in some shotguns (but not mine).  I like the 1 oz loads.  STS hulls have brass base and smooth plastic,  Most shooters find they fly out of their shotguns.  Buy a $6 box of Gun Clubs and try them.  You will quickly find out if you want to buy more.  I don't know how many reloads they are good for.  I load them once with black powder and discard them after use.  My STS and Nitro hulls are good for many reloads.  After they get too scuffed or frosty for CAS I reload them for clays.  They are quite durable.

[Shotgun Reloading Info]

8 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

You can buy STS hulls off of GunBroker

I sent a PM with this information and a link to another site.  I just found Remington Nitro hulls on Gunbroker for 7 cents each for a lot of 500.  These would meet your needs.  (Nitros look like brass shotgun shells on your belt and are stylish.)

[Shotgun Reloading Info]

14 hours ago, bgavin said:

After doing the research, I did the same. 
Brownell has the best price and free shipping.

Is anybody shooting 3/4 oz loads in 2-3/4" STS hulls?
I have a fresh pound of IMR Red that looks like a good starting point.
I assume the only way to get STS hulls is buying new ammunition first, then reloading.

My trap pard is having me over this Sunday for a full-on loading tutorial.
His wife passed away some years ago, and his entire house is dedicated to reloading now.

Once fired STS hulls are available on online auction sites, just like once-fired brass.  I quickly found a large lot selling for 6.35 cent each.  I have never bought STS shells.  BTW, Gun Clubs reload well too.  I reload them for my practice ammo.  Most clay ranges have an abundance of once-fired Gun Clubs for free.  Hodgdon's online data does not show a 3/4 oz load for IMR-Red in a STS hull.  They do list a load for 7/8 oz.  You may want to start your shotgun reloading hobby with published loads.

[Plastic Coating vs Lube]

The bullets were maroon-colored from Chey Cast.  I prefer gold-colored bullets myself.  Since the Lone Ranger shot silver bullets I think I need to up my game and use gold.