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  1. On 4/22/2024 at 9:06 PM, Carolina Gunslinger said:

    I'm going to write a stage with a "litigious" sweep. That's where you have to pick someone else to represent you and pay them five bucks to use unnecessary words to confuse you and everyone else while you try and shoot the stage. There must be at least five objections to any misses, one motion to dismiss with prejudice if there is a procedural, and one defense rests at the last shot. All other confusion is subject to the imagination of the participants. :P:FlagAm:

    I might start a new thread (not today)... There might be something fun in this.

  2. 14 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

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    You clearly missed several steps. First, I see no side salad as a starter to go with the shake.

     

    Next, a filet mignon with sides of mashed potatoes and tender-crisp sautéed vegetables. And then a desert.

     

    You  were on the right track making two shakes, but likely need a third to go with the rest of the ingredients. For balance in your diet.

     

    Keep trying, you are on the right track.

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  3. Not a medical professional, but am an engineer who raised sensitive tropical fish. I prefer to stay at Residence Inns.

     

    #1: You are likely overthinking it but ask your pharmacist.

    #2: Sure, even duh! But your pharmacist will know if 1 or 2 or 4 or more or less hours matters.

    #3: The answer for #2 will probably answer this question.

     

     

  4. 10 hours ago, Grizzly Dave said:

    I'm thinking a nevada sweep on 3 starting in the middle by a double cocking gunfighter sounds like a hoot.

     

    1 hour ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

    It’s hard to follow gunfighter logic!

    Never shot gunfighter. Would not have thought it would make a difference. Did a mental exercise. Nevada sweep on 3 plates...

     

    First starting on plate 1. For each pair of shots, first shot is to an outside plate:

    12   32  12  32  12

    LR RL LR RL LR

    Each pair always starts on alternating end plates, ends on plate 2.

     

    Start on middle plate?

    21   23  21  23  21

    RL LR RL LR RL

    Each pair starts on plate 2. That does sound fun.

     

    My brain gave up on thinking about and comparing other sequences like:

    21  23  21   23  21

    RL LR RL LR RL

     

    I'm leaning towards specified start plate if desired, but also to give consideration to not specifying one just to see how different shooters "solve the problem."

  5. 7 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:

    My question:  Unless specified in the instructions as to which target the Nevada Sweep begins, can the shooter

    rightfully start their Nevada Sweep on the CENTER target?

    Found this question has come up before, here is a thread from just over 10 years ago:

     

     

    Shortest best answer back then was to specify shooting order separately from the name. But also found some history for the sweep in this older thread so thought I would share it.

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  6. 15 minutes ago, Shooting Bull said:

    What about Spirit of the Game? He intentionally skipped the reload to save time.

    A shooter "may" carry extra rounds, only rounds carried to the line are legal; nobody can hand you an extra round. Nor is there a requirement to have any extra rounds.

     

    So just a miss.

     

    But what if the shooter did have an extra round which could have been put in the gun? No requirement to do so. Still just a miss.

     

    If the shooter got a competitive advantage by jacking out a round (leading directly to a 5 second miss penalty unless replaced with legally acquired ammunition), that is one slow shooter. I'm not sure I would want to hang my hat on a SOG call giving me an advantage in standings over this shooter. It is still just a miss.

     

    This hypothetical shooter beat me fair and square. Even with the miss.

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  7. The upper tang also has numbers, 713, 715, or maybe 718. There is a border visible around these upper numbers starting on the left, can not see where it ends on the right..

     

    The 3rd digit at the top does not seem the match the one on the bottom tang.

     

    There may be one or more markings after the first three in both markings. Looks like maybe another 7 as fourth digit on bottom marking.

  8.  

    FPC is pretty active:

     

    https://www.firearmspolicy.org/legal

     

    Actual participation in litigation as primary attorneys or through amicus briefs.

     

    There are some others I follow, this was simply the biggest gap I saw on a first thread read.

     

    SAF is also active, though there is some associated drama like with the NRA. I leave it to the reader to determine if each is self-inflicted or fabricated by the opposition.

  9. Wow! Selfcheck is not why I don't shop there, it is a different reason.

     

    And first, when I do shop there it is not for price (though generally cheaper). I shop there for the item. The last time I shopped there, I needed a coffee pot. No clock, no timer, just an "on and off" switch. Amazon did not have this item.

     

    But the employees are beat and exhausted and driven too hard! They do not come to work to help people, they show up because it at least keeps a roof over their head. It provides no real meaningful purpose.

     

    I prefer to shop where employees are appreciated. That includes places where I do use self-checkout. To be blunt, running a register at that business is not really going to make an employee feel good about their job.

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  10. 4 hours ago, Rafe Conager SASS #56958 said:

    ...I shoot at several clubs and the unwritten rule for a target that falls or was not set before the stage is shot is that the shooter shoots where it would be.

    The SASS Handbook has a written rule. The shooter "should" shoot where it was.

     

    The handbook does not link this to any penalty, not a miss, not a P, and not a SoG. There is only a "should."

     

    Now the next shooter sees what went down above, and fully comprehends the stage instructions.

     

    This shooter comes to the line and shoots 4 of the pistol targets, then knocks down 5 of the rifle targets before shooting the 5th pistol target(not going for the dump plate at all) before switching to rifle...

     

    Then engaging the remaining 5 rifle targets before dumping 5 rounds into the berm...

     

    Well, still no misses, not a P either. What I tried to create with this scenario is a SoG. On the assumption the rifle targets where easily engaged by pistol. Did I succeed?

     

    On edit: Shooter intent is a factor discussed earlier. Hard to not see intent for my hypothetical next shooter.

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  11. 20 minutes ago, Hawkeye Kid said:

    This is an old issue that will never get resolved with 100% agreement.  If the wind (or pistol shot) knocked down rifle target #10, and the first rifle miss was after engaging rifle target 3, can you honestly say the shooter skipped from target 3 aimed at where target 10 was, jumped back to target 4, and finished the string?  If down target was one after the last target hit, (3 is hit, 5 is down, next target to engage is 4)  you could make the case shooter jumped from 3 to 5 and back to target 4 to complete the string.  The no call scenario would be Target 3 is hit, 4 is down, 5 needs to be engaged, a miss on 5 could be considered engagement of target 4, shooter gets to try again on target 5.

     

    However, the general consensus will be 10 shots fired, 10 knockdown are down, clean,next shooter.

     

     

    You are 100% right if target order was specified but it was not. Sort of agree with you but rules are rules.

  12. Clean.

     

    The miss flowchart goes down the right side for not hitting the correct type of target with the pistol.

     

    So assess misses. The stage instruction specifies that this particular instance is not a miss (was not when engaging the dump target). And while the shooter "should" shoot where the downed rifle target was, I see no penalty associated with the text.

     

    So back to the flowchart, no further call.

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  13. 10 hours ago, Alpo said:

    Yeah the vet made a big thing about the blue bandage on her right ankle.

    ...

    I said that I was pretty sure it would block the area from her tongue. And she got right back to me and said that I needed to take that blue bandage off her foot.

     

    If it comes completely off, the dog is likely to eat it. Possible bowel obstruction...

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