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Still hand Bill

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  1. 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said:

    One thing I do find interesting is here in WV there aren’t many restrictions on the type of ammo used for deer hunting but the .350

    Legend has a following here. I have met a few people that like it and guns that fire the .350 Legend sell very well. 
    It could be that it’s something new and the popularity will wane. Who knows, but for now it’s popular. 
    The .360 Buckhammer doesn’t seem to be as popular, from what I see. 

    The 350 legend has been out for several years and the 360 legend was announced at shot show this year.  Rifles only started shipping this summer.  400 legend doesn’t even have rifles out yet although there is some ammo.  

  2. 6 minutes ago, Michigan Slim said:

    I was worried about my daughters .243 being too little. Uh, no. Heart and lungs turn to jelly. I put it right up there with my .270 inside of 300 yards. Her deer DIE.

    There is a huge discussion going on a long range hunting forum where the discussion is using 223 or 243 to take deer and elk with the right bullets.  This will be the direction the industry goes long term.  A lot less recoil and just as effective as the bigger cartridges. 

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  3. 2 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

    Sorry to display my ignorance, but what problem does the "straight wall only" restriction solve?

    It is usually coupled with a minimum of 35 caliber and a maximum case length.  This limits cartridge choices to low BC and slower speeds due to less powder and larger caliber bullets having poor BC until heavy for caliber.  This all means the effective range is 200-300 yards.    Lawmakers think this is safer than allowing 300 rem mag, 6.5 prc, etc that have 800+ yard effective ranges.   Many of these states were shotgun only 10-15 years ago and the push was to allow rifles to encourage deer hunting, but they didn’t want to allow long range cartridges.  

    Iowa is one of those states and the one I am now familiar with.  It was shotgun only, then straight wall, and 3 years ago went to minimum 35 cal, but can be bottleneck.   35 Whelen has taken off.  People go, why can’t I use a 30-06, but can use the whelen?   Even though they shoot the same weight bullet and speed, a 30-06 has a BC of .452 vs the whelen is a .282.  Using like bullets (Hornady spirepoint).  That limits the range of the whelen to shorter shots and they will carry a shorter distance.  


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  4. Came about as a low recoil way to hunt with an AR-15 in Midwest states where the laws limit cartridges to straight wall, 35 cal, and a case no longer than 1.8”.   Other options,357 Max,  360 buckhammer and 450 bushmaster, etc.

    the 350 legend is a 9mm (not .358”) bullet in what is basically a straight 223 case.  So no rim.  It’s specific brass, so you can’t use 223 brass, but it’s almost the same.   Recoil is probably a bit more than a 357 mag as ballistics are similar to 357 Max.  

    360 buckhammer is a true .358 diameter and uses a straightened and shortened 30-30 case.  Slightly more velocity than the legend, but being rimmed is lever, angle shot, and revolver.  Can buy Henry rifles or rebarrel/rebore a Marlin.  Essentially a longer and SAAMI spec 357 maximum.  Although by using 30-30 brass it has taper.  

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  5. Load light.  Look up data for 3/4 oz loads in a aahs or rem one pc hull using a claybuster wad.  

    made sure the gun fits.  Women are built differently and may need a different fit.  Shoulder to cheek can be different.   My wife’s clay gun has a raised rib and comb to get it right.  Many shorter, well endowed ladies may need the angle and toe of the stock adjusted.  

    women also tend to hold a shotgun wrong at first.  They put hips forward and shoulders back to balance the weight.  Opposite of how it should be done.  Shoulders forward, hips back.  Attack the target.  When they get it wrong the body can’t absorb the energy as easily.  Look at pictures of a trap shooter.  That’s how they should stand. 

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  6. I see this minimal sentences and yet a friend who plead guilty for a crime he didn’t do, spent 4 years in federal pen and has 20 years of probation.   The system is completely broken.  Soon people will simply start doing it themselves and that will be the beginning of the end.  

  7. 12 minutes ago, Fallon Kid said:

    I guess a question that has not been asked, “how many reloaders do ya know that started with a progressive press?” 

    I did for shotshell.  I later added a single stage for my tungsten hunting loads, but I can’t imagine doing any volume on a single stage, 5 or 6 pulls per round vs 1 round per pull.  When I was shooting 300 rnds per week, have to use a progressive.  

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  8. Unfortunately all too common a mistake.  Lots of info out there showing how this happens. 

    same magazine, same rifle, just a different barrel.  The BO rounds chamber fine in a 223/5.56, just don’t fit down the barrel.  

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  9. I am one who doesn’t subscribe to start on a single stage to learn.  If you know you are going to do higher volume pistol rounds, skip the single stage and buy a Dillon or Hornady.  Dillons are great presses, but they get really expensive fast if you do multiple cartridges.  In that case the Hornady can be a better choice.  Cheaper for multiple cartridges.   I fall into the second camp as I do 38 spl, 44 spl, 45 acp, 38 super, 380, 9mm and more.  

    if you are going to reload rifle rounds, then a single stage is always a good choice.  Since you have to lube and trim length, unless you are using a 1050 with auto trim, you will be taking brass in and out of the press anyway.  This greatly reduces the efficiency of a progressive press.  I still use my single stage regularly for rifle rounds.  Pistol are done on a Hornady and shotshell on a pw.  Wish I hit sprung for the spolar.   

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  10. There have been many side effects of “legal” pot in Colorado.  Homeless population tripled.  Real estate became distorted as growers looked for property.  Pot tourism is now a thing.  It uses a lot of water and energy.   Usage has gone up, I know several people who have taken it up as it’s now “legal”.  

    From what I hear a lot is going out of state as the in state price is 1/4-1/3 of other illegal markets.   Even in state, the rec market is expensive and really just for tourists.   Locals still buy off the black market as it’s cheaper.  

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  11. 1 hour ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

    I know that’s pretty weird. I don’t know how the states get around that. :blink:

    The feds said they would not enforce the law, so they just leave the state alone to enforce what they want.  In Colorado it’s “legal” on private property, but that has become very lax and I have watched people take a hit while driving when stopped at a light in the downtown.  Not a good situation imho.  

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  12. The problem is really with the northern states.  Standard time was originally set up as noon being the middle of the day.  So equal daylight morning or afternoon.  Daylight savings makes middle of the day 1pm so there is more light in the afternoon.   Problem becomes when there is around 9 hrs of daylight.  It might not get light until 8:30-9am with dst.  Means kids walk to school in the dark.   So even if it’s abolished, which time do you make permanent?   

    btw China only observes one time zone, bejing time, so in the west, they have odd hours of daylight.  

  13. On 10/20/2023 at 12:18 AM, Tennessee Trapper Tom said:

    Really, that’s interesting. After you had a chance to play with for awhile, how about coming back and post a review. I’m there’s a few that would enjoy that.

    I did a quick test yesterday.  Grabbed my red Ryder and entered a new string on the garmin, set it down next to the fore end on the included tripod.   Fired off 5 shots, turns out a red Ryder is about 275 fps.  Really easy to use and small.  No real setup, just set it down and start shooting.  

    for comparison a LabRadar would need to be aimed at the target, then a remote trigger stuck to the side of the receiver.   The trigger I have is magnetic, so it’s simply stick it on.  Depending on how good your alignment is to the actual projectile path you can get speed data out to 100 yards at 5 selected intervals.   The Garmin won’t do this.  It only gives one speed which I assume is muzzle.  Literature is not clear how the garmin figures speed.  LabRadar says for Doppler trigger, 0 range is the first time it crosses the beam.   When using remote trigger or microphone trigger, it calculates the time offset from firing to when it first sees the projectile, then adjusts speed back to the muzzle based on speed and time. 

    after using a radar chronograph I would never go back to optical except for shotgun (radar won’t work) or a magnetic.  If buying new, unless you need to figure short range (sub 100 yard) BC, the Garmin xero C1 pro is smaller, lighter, easier to get data.   No comparison really.  If buying used, the LabRadar could be a good choice to save a few beers.  

    fwiw my LR will be for sale later today as I can’t justify owning both. 

  14. 56 minutes ago, Tennessee Trapper Tom said:

    Thanks for that. Garmin  Zero C1 Pro. Price point is about the same. WHat an improvement The other model Garmin makes had some serious speed limits, whereas the C1 Pro measures up to 5000FPS. It is getting some really good reviews. Nice small and can actually fit in your pocket. You hav e made me change my mind. I’m going to be waiting anywayMaybe next Summer. Hopefully there will be a lot more feedback on just how well the perform over time. Thanks again Still Hand Bill.

    I just picked up the garmin tonight.  It’s tiny.  Looks really good, except it won’t give velocity at specific distances like the LabRadar.   Not sure if they can update the software to do that.  Need to get out and test it before deciding which one to keep.  

  15. Garmin is or has released a new radar chronograph as competition to the LabRadar.  I expect this will push a few LR’s into the used market.  I know I am considering changing.  

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  16. As long as it doesn’t freeze, you can leave it in the water.  You will get growth on the toons and motor that will need to be cleaned.    If your seals are marginal on the lower unit you may get after in the oil as well from the motor being in the water all the time.   

    winterization of a pontoon is basically an oil and lower unit oil change.  If stored outside, the cover with a tarp and A frame to hold up the tarp to allow water to drain.  Other option is shrink wrap. 

    at out lake, the common practice is to have lifts to store the boats.  Keeps the sun and water damage down, also keeps the tunes clean as they don’t sit in the water.  Older lifts are cheap, 500-5k but may not be wide enough for a newer pontoon.   A nice new pontoon lift could run 30k.  Personally I think the floe lifts are one of the best out there.  Steel shore stations work and are cheap, but a pain to adjust.  

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