Jump to content
SASS Wire Forum

Dusty Devil Dale

Members
  • Posts

    3,098
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Dusty Devil Dale

  1. 30 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

    Hard to think in threes when you're working of base 10.  I think very few shooters could program that stage into their heads well enough to shoot it without having to think about what's next the whole time.

    That about sums it up.  It's never an easy stage to shoot.  Some shooters have it figured out and practiced.  They do OK. 

    Surprisingly, I've looked back at scores and there were not very many Procedurals.  I've seen quite a few shooters shoot it below 16 ( both R and P targets using the Hangman).  

    It isn't really as bad as it looks at first glance.  

    • Like 1
  2. 42 minutes ago, BradyT88 said:

    This one sounds like a pain in the butt for a gunfighter

    It isn't particularly new - been around a while.  You have to think in threes.

    123--- 234 ---345---3.  It isn't what anybody would call GF-friendly, or even two-handed shooter-friendly (pistol split can be a challenge under the clock).  Rifle is a lot simpler. I've run into it in matches fairly often.

     

  3. 26 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

    I agree.  I'll shoot a stage that has targets that aren't used, but my question would be why?  It's not that hard to take the steel down. 

    Agree.  A no-shoot hostage target or two can be fun, but otherwise extra targets often turn out to be "P" traps.  It helps if they are painted differently, but like you said --WHY have them at all?

  4. 1 hour ago, Cholla said:

    A Glossary of Sweeps
    Compiled by Crooked River Bob SASS#26199

    For consistency, targets will be numbered from left to right. Multiple shots on a single target will be indicated by repeating that target’s number. Items in Bold Text have separate entries

     

    Abilene Sweep: Named after Abilene (SASS#27489, TX), who posted it on the SASS Wire. Nine shots on five targets, 1-2-2-3-3-3-2-2-1. This might also be described as a Progressive Nevada Sweep.

     

    Amigo’s Sweep: Suggested on the SASS Wire by Wallaby Jack (SASS#44062, NSW, Australia). “…the whole stage is set up with a target array of ONE target.” See also Missouri Sweep and Texas Sweep.

     

    Arizona Sweep: From Old Scout (SASS# 323, CA). “Progressively place one more round on each target.” Ten shots on four plates, in the following order: 1-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-4. Also known as a Progressive Sweep, and sometimes as a Montana Sweep or a Lawrence Welk Sweep.

     

    Arkansas Shuffle: Attributed to West Creek Willie (SASS#33394, IL). Five shots on three targets, engaged as 1-1-2-3-3. Compare to the Idaho Shuffle.

     

    Bad Jack Abernathy Sweep: Described on the SASS Wire by A. D. Texaz (SASS#16339, TX). Nine shots on four targets, 1-1-4-2-2-4-3-3-4.

     

    Badger Sweep: Attributed to Badger, SASS#3361. See the Cowboy Chronicle, September 2003, page 42. Old Scout (SASS# 323, CA) describes it as “Successive sweeps, firing one less shot on each sweep.” Ten shots on four targets, 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-1-2-1. Also called a Solitaire Sweep. Compare to the Miakka Sweep.

     

    Bear Butte Sweep: Dreamed up by Bear Butte SASS #11231. Five shots on 3 targets. 1-1-2-3-1 (see SASS number). Not called anything else!

    Boss Hayes Sweep: This name was provided by Bird Dawg Dan (SASS#59914, CA). Same as the Poverty Sweep, with ten shots on four targets: 1-2-3-4-2-3-4-3-4-4.

    Brat Sweep: Mentioned on the SASS Wire by Penny Wrangler (SASS#50750, UT). Five shots on three targets, 1-3-2-3-1. In a later post, Moe Greens (SASS#53755, UT) indicated the Brat Sweep “…goes 1-3-2-3- 1, or 3-1-2-1-3.” Either way, it’s another variation of Five on Three.

    Cactus Buck Sweep: Submitted to the SASS Wire by A. D. Texaz (SASS#16339, TX). Ten shots on four targets. 1-1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-4. Same as the Palindrome Sweep.

    Cajon Sweep: From Old Scout (SASS# 323, CA). Five consecutive shots on a single target, 1-1-1-1-1. Cowboy action shooters in general have a lot of fun with this one, and it is humorously known by a variety of names in various parts of the country. For example, Mustang Gregg (SASS#38345, NE) and Cuts Crooked (SASS#36914, “Midwest”) called it the Nebraska Sweep, while Curly McCrae (SASS#27784, MI) called it a California Sweep. R.B. Rooson (SASS#16974, TX) called it the Paradise Pistolero Sweep. Johnny the Kid (SASS#22917, FL) identified it as the Hatbill Sweep. Wire Paladin (SASS#5954, OR) suggested calling this the Chicago Sweep, saying “…you just dump all the rounds of one gun on one target.”
    California Sweep: From Old Scout (SASS# 323, CA). “Every other shot must be on the first target. The remaining shots will form a sweep.” His example suggested eight shots on five targets, 1-2-1-3-1-4-1-5. See also Hermit Joe Sweep.

    Chatanika Sweep: Submitted by Brasspounder (SASS#9076, AK), who suggested “Five pistol or rifle targets, arranged at varying distances and heights… Shooting sequence goes thus: 3, 2, 4, 1, 5.” Compare to the Ozark Sweep.

    Chimney Sweep: From Piney Woods (SASS#29887, NH), who said, “Stack three targets one above the other (numbered 1-2-3 from top to bottom for ease of description) and shoot them 1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1… that’s right, up and down, up and down.” Think of a Continuous Nevada Sweep with a vertical orientation.

    Continuous Nevada Sweep: Generally ten shots on four targets, 1-2-3-4-3- 2-1-2-3-4. Same as the Idaho Sweep and the Zig-Zag.

    Delta Glen Sweep: Authored by Delta Glen (SASS#39197, FL). Ten shots on three targets, 1-2-2-3-2-2-1-2-2-3, or 3-2-2-1-2-2-3-2-2-1. Similar to the Continuous Nevada Sweep, except you double-tap the center target on every pass.

     

    Desperado Sweep: This name was suggested by Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI), who indicated that this sweep was authored by Midnite Desperado (SASS#4321, IN). Ten shots on five targets, 1-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-5.

     

    Diablo Sweep: From Will E. Doo (SASS#63695, Australia). Ten shots on six targets, 1-2-2-3-4-4-5-6-6-6. Will E. Doo said, “Starting from left or right, sweep the targets – single tap, double tap, single tap, double tap, single tap, triple tap… Good fun for gunfighters & others alike.” Compare to the Lake City Sweep or Gorilla Sweep.

     

    Doc’s Sweep: From Doc Shapiro, (SASS# 31526, CA). “Shoot a bank of 5 targets in the following order: 1-4-2-5-3 and repeat.”
    Double Tap: Two consecutive shots at the same target.

     

    Double Tap Sweep: As described by Hellgate (SASS#3302, OR) on the SASS Wire, “Sweep the targets but each is double tapped before going to the next target.” For example, ten shots on five targets, 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5.

     

    Firelands Sweep: From Rye Miles (SASS#13621, OH). Ten shots on four targets, 1-4-2-3-1-4-2-3-1-4.

     

    Five on Three: Literally, five shots on three targets, with the exact order at the discretion of the shooter. Examples might be 1-2-3-3-3, or 1-2-2-2-3, or…

     

    Fort White Sweep: From Fort White, Florida. Five shots on three targets, starting and ending in the center: 2-1-2-3-2. Shoot the center target, then sweep all three from left to right, then shoot the center target again. Same as the Hoptoad Shuffle, and one of the many variations of Five on Three.

     

    Gorilla Sweep: Suggested by Waldo Astoria on the SASS Wire. Nine shots on six targets, 1-1-2-3-3-4-5-5-6. Same as the Lake City Sweep.

     

    Hatbill Sweep: Brought to our attention by Johnny the Kid (SASS#22917, FL) and attributed to Colonel Dan (SASS#24025, FL). Johnny the Kid described it as “One target, and place all five shots thereon…” See also the Cajon Sweep and the Nebraska Sweep.
    Hermit Joe Sweep: From Piney Woods (SASS#29887, NH), who said it was “… named after its creator.” In his words, “Take six rifle targets and shoot them 1-2-1-3-1-4-1-5-1-6 and you’ve done it.” Compare to the California Sweep.

    Hooten Sweep: Cherokee Big Dog (SASS#17531, KY) said, “The Hooten Sweep ain’t a sweep a’tall. Set the number of targets equal to the number of shots and tell ‘em to engage ‘em once each, but don’t sweep ‘em.” As an example, Cherokee Big Dog suggested a sequence of 1-2-3-5-4, indicating there are “dozens of other variations” but the critical element is that the shooter “breaks up the ascending or descending sweep.”

    Hoptoad Shuffle: Brought to our attention by Jim Bowdrie (SASS#55924, IL). Five shots on three targets, 2-1-2-3-2 or 2-3-2-1-2. The odd numbered shots are all on the center target. Same as the Fort White Sweep, the Inside-Outside, and the Sassie Sue Sweep.

    Idaho Shuffle: Suggested by Gold Canyon Kid (SASS#43974, AZ), who said he “shot this up at the Great Northern…” The sequence is 1-3-1-2-3, with five shots on three targets. Compare to the Arkansas Shuffle.

    Idaho Sweep: From Hellgate (SASS#3302, OR). Ten shots on four targets, 1-2-3-4-3-2-1-2-3-4. Hellgate described it as “… over & back & over again,” with no double taps. In a later post, Hellgate added that the Idaho Sweep is “Sometimes called a Continuous Nevada Sweep.” Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI) called this a Zig-Zag.
    Indiana Sweep: Five shots on three targets, 2-2-1-2-3 or 2-2-3-2-1. Doc Molar (SASS#18470, IN) came up with this one, and said, “3 targets, you start by double tapping the center target and then sweep across all three targets from either direction, for 5 [rounds].” He added that if you are “…doing this as a rifle sequence you just do it twice.”

    Inside-Outside: This name was provided by Ranger Buffa Lowe (SASS#39172, BC, Canada). Five shots on three targets: 2-1-2-3-2. Identical to the Fort White Sweep, the Hoptoad Shuffle, and the Sassie Sue Sweep.

    IRS Sweep: On the SASS Wire, Hellgate (SASS#3302, OR) said “IRS Sweep: 1-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-4 … originally we had … low, medium, high, and even higher target stands to simulate higher income brackets where the highest (#4) got hit harder as in tax brackets.” Similar to the Arizona Sweep or Progressive Sweep.

     

    Jackrabbit Sweep: Authored by Delta Glen (SASS#39197, FL). Sweep the odd-numbered targets from left to right, then return sweeping the even- numbered targets from right to left. Five shots on five targets: 1-3-5-4-2. Nine shots on nine targets: 1-3-5-7-9-8-6-4-2.

     

    John Kerry Sweep: Submitted by Mack Hacker (SASS#60477, TX). Described as “Far right, far left… Repeat as necessary.”

     

    John Wayne Sweep: From Fillmore Coffins (SASS#7884, CA), who submitted this on the SASS Wire. He described it as “Simple. Three targets, 10 rounds. The order is: 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3.” Similar to the Ruskin Sweep, but with a double tap on the last target.

     

    Kansas Sweep: Submitted by Chain Blue (SASS#50574, KS), who described it as “Three rifle targets ten rounds in rifle… double tap t1 t2 t3 then single tap 2, 1, 2, 3…” Ten rounds, three targets: 1-1-2-2-3-3-2-1-2-3.

     

    Kansas City Sweep: The source for this one was Grizzly Skinner (SASS#23242, RI). Essentially a Nevada Sweep done with double taps. Ten shots on three targets, 1-1-2-2-3-3-2-2-1-1.

     

    Lake City Sweep: We can credit Florida cowboys Delta Glen (SASS#39197) and Jesse Toothpick (SASS#41358) for this one. Nine shots on six targets, 1-1-2-3-3-4-5-5-6. Double tap the odd-numbered targets, and single tap the even numbered targets. Same as the Gorilla Sweep.

     

    Lawrence Welk Sweep: As suggested by Prof. Fuller Bullspit (SASS#57421, CA) and Ivory Jack McCloud (SASS#8534, CA). Requires ten shots on four targets, 1-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-4. Same as the Arizona Sweep, the IRS Sweep, or Progressive Sweep.

     

    Lazy Sweep: In a post on the SASS Wire, Done Gone (SASS#49052, CA) said “I’ve heard reference to a Lazy Sweep. One where you double tapped the last target.” Five shots on three targets, 1-2-3-3-2.

     

    Lousiana Swing: From the SASS Wire, submitted by Possum Skinner (SASS#60697, LA). Five targets are arranged in a “V” shape with the apex of the “V” (target #3) nearest the shooter, and the arms of the “V” extending back and out to the left and right. Six shots on five plates, 3-4-5-3-2-1.

    Miakka Sweep: From an article by El Tigre Viejo, SASS#28083, on page 80 of the June 2004 Cowboy Chronicle. The author says, “In the Miakka Sweep, the shooter starts at the right target of four in a row and makes a continuous right to left sweep, dropping the target furthest to the left each time so that the last of the ten shots is on the target where he began.” Ten shots on four targets, 4-3-2-1-4-3-2-4-3-4. Same as the Badger Sweep, but shot from the opposite direction
    Missouri Sweep: From Shoshone Slim (SASS# 31347, MO), who described it as “… all shots into one target.” This appears to mean all shots for the entire stage, same as for the Amigo’s Sweep and the Texas Sweep.

    Missouri Hillbilly Sweep: Posted by Missouri Marshal (SASS#50682, VA). Ten shots on four targets, 1-1-2-3-4-4-3-2-1-1. Think of this as a Nevada Sweep, but with double taps on the end targets. Missouri Marshal also described an abbreviated version for the revolver, requiring six shots on four targets: 1-1-2-3-4-4.

    Montana Sweep: This name was submitted by Tequila Vaquero (SASS#4624). Ten rounds on four targets, 1-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-4-4. Also known as the Arizona Sweep and the Progressive Sweep.

    Mustang Sweep: Suggested by Mustang Gregg (SASS#38345, NE) on the SASS Wire. Ten shots on five targets, 1-1-1-2-1-3-1-4-1-5. Mustang Gregg indicated this is a good sweep for Gunfighters, L-R-L-R-L-R-L-R-L-R.

    Nebraska Sweep: Also from Mustang Gregg (SASS#38345, NE). All shots on one target. 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1. Another version of the Cajon Sweep.

    Nevada Sweep: Originated by Beans (SASS#316, NV), and sometimes described as “the most common of cowboy sweeps.” In a post on the SASS Wire, Beans said, “… it is always meant to be shot left to right unless the stage directions state [otherwise].” The Nevada Sweep always requires an odd number of rounds, and involves sweeping from one end of the row of targets to the other and back without double-tapping. Five shots on three targets, 1-2-3-2-1. Seven shots on four targets, 1-2-3-4-3-2-1. Nine shots on five targets, 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1.

     

    Ohio Sweep: From Rye Miles (SASS#13621, OH), who said “Split Rail from Tusco Longriders thought it up and I named it.” Five shots on three targets, 1-2-1-2-3.

     

    Oklahoma Sweep: Submitted by McCandless (SASS#25723). In a post on the SASS Wire, he said “… an Oklahoma Sweep was simply shooting four targets with eight rounds, sweep from the left (1-2-3-4) then return sweep from the right (4-3-2-1) double tapping the fourth target.” See also Wyoming Sweep.

     

    Oregon Sweep: From Wire Paladin (SASS#5954, OR). Nine rifle rounds on five targets, 1-1-1-2-3-4-5-5-5.

     

    Oregon Trail Sweep: Also from Wire Paladin (SASS#5954, OR). Ten shots on five targets, 1-1-1-2-3-3-4-5-5-5. Same as the Oregon Sweep except for a double tap on the middle target.


    Ozark Sweep: From Red River Ralph (SASS#49760, AR). Ten shots on five targets, first 1-5-2-4-3, then 3-2-4-1-5. Red River Ralph suggested using two revolvers for this. Compare to the Chatanika Sweep.

     

    Palindrome Sweep: Submitted by Palindrome (SASS#54445, WA), who credited the Black River Regulators for this sweep. Ten shots on four targets, 1-1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-4. Palindrome said, “Triple tap the first, double tap the second and third, triple tap the fourth. Shot from either direction, of course.” Same as the Cactus Buck Sweep.


    However, a palindrome is defined as “…a word or sentence which reads the same backward as it does forward” (The Winston Dictionary, 1943), and a number of sweeps fit this description. Deadly Sharpshooter (SASS#35828, FL) wrote an entire stage comprised of “Palindrome Sweeps,” which could be shot from either direction. For the handguns, he suggested ten shots on seven targets: 1-2-2-3-4-4-5-6-6-7. Double-tap all the even numbered targets, which makes a good sweep for Gunfighters. For the rifle, he indicated nine shots on five targets: 1-2-2-3-3-3-4-4-5 (compare to the Desperado Sweep, which is also a “palindrome”). The shotgun would engage three targets with four shots: 1-2-2-3.

    Peddler Sweep: From Peddler Parsons (SASS#31281, MO). Ten shots on five targets, starting from the left: 1-3-5-2-4-5-3-1-4-2.

    Pendulum Sweep: The writer has heard this name applied both to the Nevada Sweep and to the Oklahoma Sweep, which differ according to whether a single shot or a double tap is employed on the last target in the row. This illustrates the importance of writing out the exact shooting sequence in each stage description, whether the “sweep” is named or not.

    Possum Skinner Sweep: Described on the SASS Wire by Possum Skinner (SASS#60697, LA). Ten shots on four targets. Possum Skinner said, “Using both pistols shoot 3 cowboys 3 times each, then put 10th round on circle.” This instruction is gunfighter-friendly, and gives the shooters some choices.

    Poverty Sweep: From Poverty Bill (SASS#45790, MT). Ten shots on four targets: 1-2-3-4-2-3-4-3-4-4. Also known as a Boss Hayes Sweep. Compare to the Badger Sweep.

    Presidio Sweep: Posted on the SASS Wire by Presidio (SASS#40582, TX). Intended for the shotgun, this requires six shots on four targets: 1-2-3-2-3-4. The targets on the far left and far right are knockdowns, while the two center targets are evidently plates or swingers. Presidio added that knockdowns “…must go down to be counted and [targets must] be shot in order before going to the next target in numerical sequence.”

    Progressive Nevada Sweep: This interesting sweep was submitted to the SASS Wire by Abilene (SASS#27489, TX), who described a sequence of 1-2-2-3-3-3-2-2-1, but just called it “progressive from left.” We took the liberty of calling it the “Progressive Nevada Sweep” because it combines the increasing multiple taps of the Progressive Sweep with direction reversal as in the Nevada Sweep. However, the Abilene Sweep might be a better choice, in recognition of the individual who suggested it.

    Progressive Sweep: As suggested by Cliffhanger (SASS#3720, CA) and Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI). Ten shots on four targets, 1-2-2-3-3- 3-4-4-4-4. Same as the Arizona Sweep and the Montana Sweep.

    Rainbow Loop: From Old Scout (SASS# 323, CA). Hard to describe without a picture, but this involves three targets arranged in a triangle. The point of the triangle is nearest the shooter (target #1), with the other two targets farther back and to the left (#2) and right (#3). Engage the front target first, then the left rear, then the right rear, then the front. Keep going around in this fashion for the specified number of rounds, ending up where you started. For example, seven rounds on three targets, 1-2-3-1-2-3-1.

     

    Ruskin Sweep: Brought to our attention by Take Aim (SASS#39434, FL). Nine rounds on three targets, 1-2-3-3-2-1-1-2-3. Compare to the John Wayne Sweep.

     

    San Juan Sweep: Described on page 74 of the July 2004 issue of the Cowboy Chronicle, in an article by Palaver Pete (SASS#4375). This sweep was attributed to San Juan (SASS#1776, CO), and involves ten shots on four targets, 1-1-2-1-2-3-1-2-3-4. Think of sweeping repeatedly from left to right, adding one target with every pass.
    Sassie Sue Sweep: Submitted by Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI), who described it as five shots on three targets, “middle, left, middle, right, middle,” or 2-1-2-3-2. This is identical to the Fort White Sweep, the Hoptoad Shuffle, and the Inside-Outside.

     

    Solitaire Sweep: Suggested by Doc Silverfinger (SASS# 3444) and Cliffhanger (SASS#3720, CA). Ten shots on four targets, 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-1- 2-1. Also known as a Badger Sweep.

     

    Strider Sweep: From Strider (SASS#47548, FL). Ten shots on five targets, 3-2-1-2-3-3-4-5-4-3. You can think of this as two consecutive five-shot Nevada sweeps, one to the left and the other to the right, both beginning on the middle target. Works well for rifle or two sixguns. Watch out for that double tap on the center target!

     

    Texas Sweep: Submitted by Gold Canyon Kid (SASS#43974, AZ). He described it as “… all shots from every gun into one Texas size target.” Same as the Amigo’s Sweep and the Missouri Sweep.
    32/32 Sweep: This name was suggested by Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI), who attributed the sweep to Sassie Sue (SASS#15005, IN). Ten shots on four targets, 1-1-1-2-2-3-3-3-4-4.

    Tough Hombre Sweep: Submitted by Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI). Five shots on three targets, 2-2-1-3-2. Grampaw Willie described it this way: “P2 represents the baddest, meanest, most dangerous adversary. Hit P2 twice then take care of his henchmen: P1, P3. Then come back and finish off Old Tougher than Leather: 5th shot on P2.”

    Triple Tap: Three consecutive shots on one target.

    Wyoming Sweep: Brought to our attention by Piney Woods (SASS#29887, NH). His example used ten rounds on five targets, 1-2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2-1. Essentially the same as the Oklahoma Sweep. See also Pendulum Sweep.

    Zig-Zag: Suggested by Grampaw Willie (SASS#26996, MI). Ten shots on four targets, 1-2-3-4-3-2-1-2-3-4. An alternate name for the Continuous Nevada Sweep or Idaho Sweep.

     

    Add Hangman or Rattlesnake Sweep:

    1232343453

    • Haha 1
  5. 20190214_121611.thumb.jpg.d76c8ab056df26e413c5e0322adc806c.jpgOur central CA club normally has about 70-80 paid members. About 1/3 -1/2 of them participate in monthly matches.  Match attendance is heavily weather dependent. 

     

    Our shooters can choose to shoot on Saturday, Sunday or both days (separate matches held the same weekend)   Different shooters prefer different days, so attendance on any individual day is probably less than if we shot only one match.  We normally see about 18-25 shooters on Saturday and about 20-30 on Sunday.  Our match fees are $15 per match (per day) for members, $20 for non members. 

     

    I hope that is helpful. 

     

    Added:  Our range is a 8-Bay ghost town setting, so I think ideally we would like to be able to run 3 posses each match day-- say 40-45 shooters.  

    • Like 1
  6. 2 hours ago, Duffield, SASS #23454 said:

    Have you considered a civil suit against the individuals involved?

    If it had been me personally, I would have been neck deep in legal action all right -- but  probably the "you're allowed one phone call" kind. 

    • Like 2
    • Thanks 3
  7. On 1/26/2023 at 11:43 AM, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:

    I thought you made some guncarts where you pour your empties in the top, roll it around for a while, and loaded ammo comes out the bottom. 

    Don't give him ideas!  You've seen what he can do with them!

  8. 33 minutes ago, ORNERY OAF said:

    YOU need to re-read...it says left on a table, and I didn't know I had to qualify my occupants, and safety, securities,alarm condition, or even the condition of the pistol. So you read what you waanted into it to make a stupid comment. Sad, you old douchebags spend all day on the internet looking for something to complain about.  This was just a funny little story  for a couple comments on the new six-gun I had today. Find a life, live with less fear if you possibly can....and troll someone else's thread.

    Relax.  This is the Saloon-- the fun sassnet place.   What happens in the Saloon stays in the Saloon.  

    • Like 1
  9. 44 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

    I would gladly face arrest to save a dog in that situation! 

    My bet is that as long as you did no physical damage to the facility or assault staff people, no reasonable LEO would cite you into court under these circumstances.  They would accomplish little and risk a whole lot in the Court of Public Opinion.  A court action, in fact, could seriously backfire on the facility management.

     

    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1
  10. 10 minutes ago, Major Wemyss said:

    Just getting started, got my second 1971 Open Top, a Stoeger coach gun and a Rossi 92, considering the services of a gunsmith.  If anyone knows of such a smith anywhere near Panama City, I'd be obliged to have his info.

    Which Panama City?

  11. 16 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

    Sadly, I knew where this story was going. 
    Quite honestly I would have a hard time with this and probably could end up in jail. 
    I don’t play well with bureaucrats. 
     

    One of my coworker’s sons in Oregon had a very similar scenario. Only his son and a friend went late at night and broke into the facility and rescued the dog. Problem was they got pulled over and got busted. Security system alerted police. 
    The dog went back up the pound and the two boys spent the night in jail. 
    The scumbag manager of the pound had the dog killed the next day. The young man and his friend got probation but now have a record. 

    There is very little worse than a self-centric bureaucrat who knows how to insulate themself.  

    Honestly, I can understand a lot of their hesitancy, considering that dog's can be pretty unpredictable with strangers or kids who scare or hurt them.  

    But in this case, Shelly walked into the facility with the dog on a leash, sat in a waiting room with it lying obediently at her feet while she reached down and petted it.  They could and should have at least let her help them look for a chip.   

    It is probably good that I wasn't there.  If I had been, not unlike your Oregon friend, I likely would have gone into the Shelter's back room, and retrieved myself a Husky pet, and earned myself a criminal record. 

    • Thanks 2
  12. A too-true encounter.

     

    On her way home one afternoon, a friend's wife, Shelly, found a beautiful adult Husky walking along the roadside, approaching and surveying passing cars like a lost dog.   She stopped and climbed out, greeted the dog, opened the rear door of the pickup and the dog jumped in.

    She took it home, fed it and gave it a bath.  It was a neutered male, but wore no collar or tags, although the fur was creased, appearing to have recently worn a collar.   

    Shelly was sure it was somebody's pet.   She kept it indoors and found it affectionate, playfull with her daughter, and fairly well-trained.  It slept obediently at the foot of their bed.  

     

    She posted signs around their area, trying to locate the dog's owners, but  had no luck after a week.  A  neighbor suggested if the dog was neutered, it probably had an ID chip inserted behind one ear. 

     

    At that point Shelly hated to give up her new friend, but she did "the right thing" and took the dog to the local City-funded  SPCA shelter to see if they could read a chip and locate the owner.  If not (or if the owner no longer wanted the dog), Shelly and her family wanted to adopt it. 

     

    The staff took the leashed Husky to another room and came back shortly saying the dog was too aggressive.  They were unable to check it for a chip.  It hadn't tried to attack or bite anyone, but it was not wearing rabies or license tags, and it had growled at the staff when approached.

     

    In disbelief, Shelly asked if she could go in to try to calm the dog down.  To her shock, they refused to allow her in the room.  Further they said their policies require that they not handle, vaccinate or release an aggressive animal back to anyone, or allow anyone to adopt and license the dog, "until and unless" their 'Animal Behavioral Specialist Team' determined that it could be safely allowed to leave the secure facility.  If they determined that the dog was too aggressive for adoption, it would be euthanized after 24 hours. 

     

    Shelly was devastated.  She demanded to be allowed to show them that the dog was non-aggressive.   The facility Director (a quintessential bureaucrat) was called, and Shelly was directed to leave the facility. 

     

    Her husband made over a dozen calls to the facility, to several State Legislators, City Council members, the City Mayor, and to a local radio station personality who has an obvious  affinity for dogs and cats.  He immediately broadcast the situation, trying to bring public pressure to the City and SPCA Director to at least let Shelly demonstrate that the dog was non-aggressive. 

     

    The facility Director made no statements and did not respond to the radio station or legislator inquiries.  

     

    All of Shelly's efforts were to no avail.  The lovable dog was promptly euthanized after being held 24 hours.  At no point before or after its death did anyone check for an ownership chip.

     

    Bottom line, if you find a lost animal, do NOT EVER take it to the SPCA or City "Shelter" to get its chip read.  Instead, call a veterinarian and/or find someone else who can look for and read an ownership  chip-- or just give the dog a good home.  

    • Like 1
    • Sad 12
  13. On 1/27/2023 at 6:45 AM, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

    I happened to notice this on a can of Sure deodorant. I thought it was pretty funny. I think from now on, in my best Thurston Howell the third accent, I will refer to Canada as “The Canada”. :lol:
     

    142A31EB-7FB9-40E7-851B-CA232B619820.thumb.jpeg.5e143c58e44db944090eb0b963dee1f7.jpeg

    It appears the word 'Canada' was patched in.  Hard to tell from the photo angle. but it appears to be a slightly larger font.

    • Like 1
  14. On 1/10/2023 at 2:45 PM, Rip Snorter said:

    Simply, they want you cold, hungry, poor, unable to travel and entirely dependent on your rulers for survival.

    It is U.N. Agenda 21 still being implemented. The U.N. policy document was signed years ago by GHW Bush. It became the little known  Progressive Play Book --  273 pages of prescription for total governmental control.  Some features:

     

    > No motorized vehicles-- only bicycles. 

    > All persons eventually living in urban high-rises (to save farmland). 

    >All farmland owned and operated by the various participating  governments of the One World Order. 

    >No civilian firearms. 

     

    It goes on and on and on -- all ostensibly aimed at long-term  survival of the Earth and of world humanity, but really aimed at everyone becoming oppressively controlled subjects with no means of escape.   

     

    Download and take a look at it sometime when your blood pressure is too low and your wife and family are not near enough to hear your comments. It is the root of much of the senselessness we are seeing being turned into public policy.  (It is always good to understand your adversaries)

     

    I understand 21  is now replaced by Agenda 2040, which is much worse in policies, but more carefully disguised as woke necessities and public safety.  

     

     

    • Sad 1
  15. 4 hours ago, Tennessee Trapper Tom said:

    Trust me I’d rather be sleeping. Last night I went to bed at 830. Actually stayed in bed for the most part til 930 am. However because of this sinus and lung crap going around I was running and 102 fever. Had to cancel blood work and an appt with my pulmonologist. Tested negative for covid. I don’t think you want to market a lack of sleep. 

    Oh, you were talking about sleep?

    • Haha 3
  16. 17 hours ago, Utah Bob #35998 said:

    Omagerd! ! 
    I’m in the Fortress of Solitude in anticipation of the coming Apocalypse! Me phone line went out this morning. And the Interweb. No bars on the cellphone. 
    Tortally off the grid. Only comes back for a moment

    or two at a time.

     Very scary! What if I fall and can’t getup. What if bourbon wasn’t the cause? How do I check my Our Time likes??

    PutIn? Kim Jung Loon??
    The only thing I have for protection in Monsieur F. Pedicaris.
    And a safe full of guns!

     I think I’ll sell the ranch and move to a town where I’ll be safe. Oh woe is me! I shall endeavor to persevere!

    40D522B4-ACE6-4F53-88D4-A274142EC35C.jpeg

    22CB3380-A187-45F8-8593-112B6030E172.jpeg

    How did you post this?  4G? 5G?

    • Thanks 1
  17. Cap'n,

    I have the same foot problem as you--almost identical!

    I bear weight only on the heel and balls of my feet.  I have to use a piece of trimmed 1/2" carpet as an insert OVER my orthotic, otherwise my feet hurt all night.  The carpet (recommended by my Podiatrist) does work pretty well.  I cut them the same as my orthotic inserts, except they do not extend under the toes.  The Podiatrist thought that would help to relieve and help correct the my hammer-toe condition.  

    • Thanks 1
  18. I wear a pair of Whites Logging boots (steel toe, steel shank with spikes) that I've worn in heavy  logging and tractor work for 28 years.  I've  damaged the uppers once (chain saw scuff) and worn out the soles once in that time.   

     

    They are heavy, stiff-- they give great ankle support, walking on top of logs while limbing, they are reliably snakeproof,  and extremely durable. 

     

    As above, I've sent them back for repairs twice.  Both times they quickly contacted me and replaced the boots free of charge and paid shipping both ways. 

    The boots are not lightweight by any stretch, but they give great support and protection.  And the lifetime warranty makes them among the lowest cost boots out there, IF you ever need them replaced. 

    I think I paid $550 in 1993 or 94, and I'm on the second free replacement, which makes the cost $550/3 =$183

     

    I tried a pair of $280 Danners for a time, looking for a lighter weight boot.  They did not hold up very well in my heavy work.  

     

    I have not worn the lighter weight Whites, so I can't attest, but their warranty is bomb-proof.  

    • Thanks 1
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.