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  1. 1 hour ago, Guns Goforth said:

    No firearm may be decocked on the firing line to avoid a penalty if cocked at the
    wrong time, position or location once a round has gone downrange
    . Once a
    revolver is cocked, the round must be expended (shot). However, if a round has
    not gone downrange, and under the direction and supervision of the TO, the
    revolver may be decocked. This requires a positive indication/acknowledgement
    from the TO for the shooter to do so. (See also “Double Jeopardy” avoidance in
    Safety & Handling Conventions – All Firearms)

    The answer is highlighted. Once the first round has gone down range, you can't decock.

    The penalty would have been returning a cocked pistol to leather.

    The fix is to pull the trigger and allow the hammer to fall, unimpeded.

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  2. 3 hours ago, Creeker, SASS #43022 said:

    Usually we see the notices that Bordertown has filled up after 8 minutes and 46 seconds of applications being released.

    Is the match full?

     

    Painted Lady and myself have been staying pretty close to home for the last year; but we just sold one of our investments and figured we should celebrate.  

     

    So if it's not full - I'll get our apps sent in and if it is - I'll get us on the waiting list.

     

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  3. 1 hour ago, Edward R S Canby, SASS#59971 said:

      I'm already planning to shoot the Plainsman in the tradition category.  

    Check the schedule. No Plainsman this year.

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  4. 2 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

    Unless it's written that you have to reholster.

    And that means after the shooting string, all 10 shots, if from the same position.

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  5. No call

    If there was a shell in the chamber, it would have go bang when they pulled the trigger.

    Safe for movement, open, closed on empty or expended.

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  6. 4 hours ago, Nickle said:

    So I had my ankle crushed.  Had three operations and lots of metal in there.  I can't wear cowboy boots because I have limited movement  in my ankle and it also swells so if I do get them on I can't get them off.

    I've been wearing normal leather steel toed lace up work boots all my life. Literally got married in them. 

    So if that's all I can wear does this mean classic cowboy is only thing I can shoot in

     

    Are overalls legal?  Google search says overalls are SASS  legal but when I look at SASS pdf download I don't see anything about them. 

    It also looks to shoot gunfighter you can only have a 50s Hollywood western buscadero rig?

    My second revolver would be a borrowed ruger with sights because of stupid Canadian gun laws. Kind of looks like I can't  shoot gunfighter because of the sights. 

    Thanks 

    Boots are ONLY required in B Western and Classic Cowboy.

    Overalls are legal.

    Gunfighters can use any type rig they want. B Western must use a rig where "no part of the revolver may extend above the belt" 

    As to the sight issue, fixed sights are required. Pretty sure canada allows fixed sights.

     

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  7. 12 minutes ago, Rattlesnake Slim said:

     

    My information came from an internal report titled "Stage Statistics by Posse" but they are the same numbers (except I said the most Procedurals on a stage was 89 and you say 88). My total Procedurals was also higher than what is on the webpage, probably because it included MDQ's.

     

    So what's your question?

    You stated "

    The highest number of Procedurals by any single posse on a stage was 6, and two out of 36 managed that. We also had one posse get only one Procedural for the whole entire match!"

    Ahhh, I see what you're saying. The Stage with the highest number of P's for a single posse was Stage 6.  Stage 6 had a total of 33 P's.

    At 88 P's, Stage 3 averaged 2.44 P's per posse.

    Overall, 427 P's is 11.86 P's per posse for the match.

    I'm thinking, Stage 6, most P's were for not restaging long gun parallel to red board. 

    Based on that scenario, that red board was not needed anyway because there was no way restaging the long gun would result in sweeping anyone, including the TO, Shooter, and Spotters.

    A reason was given, at the Posse Walk, that spotters might walk between the back side of the prop and the berm to get a better view.

    Well, to eliminate that problem, a split rail fence, or even a rope, would have kept wanderers from that.

     

     

  8. Just a question.

    Bordertown Applications used to come out on Sundays so we could have them all printed out, stuffed in envelopes and ready to go for the Monday mail.

    Has this changed, and if so, why? That was part of Bordertown excitement.

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  9. On 3/17/2025 at 3:14 PM, Rattlesnake Slim said:

     

    For the record, looking at the statistics:

     

    The highest number of Procedurals by any single posse on a stage was 6, and two out of 36 managed that. We also had one posse get only one Procedural for the whole entire match!

     

    The total number of Procedurals was 446, divided by 36 posse's is 12.4 per posse, or a little more than one Procedural per posse per stage.

     

    The stage with the greatest number of Procedurals had 89, or about 2 1/2 per posse.

     

    Granted, everyone's perception of individual stages is different, that's why we keep and study these statistics every year in order to make next year better. There is also a question on the survey about your most and least favorite stages, please have those surveys in by tonight's deadline. Thanks!

    Don't know where you're getting your information from but, the Misses and Procedurals page from EOT Results shows Stage 3 as having 88, Stage 1 having 77, Stage 4 having 74, Stage 9 having 37.

     

     

  10.  

    I think this is exactly the thinking that promotes inconsistency when making calls. By taking the course we level the playing field as much as we can. Does that mean there will never be wrong calls made? No we're all human and prone to mistakes. The RO committee and PWB do a great job in clarifying the rules but we will all make an occasional wrong call in the heat of the moment.

     

    My thinking if you can't pass a written test, you have no hope in consistently and correctly applying the rules in the heat of the moment. As Ace of Hearts points out that extends to all of the Range Officer duties including spotting and the load and unload tables. He also correctly points out it's a requirement at State and above matches. We do no favours by not following that at our monthly matches. I can't speak for other RO Instructors but I'm always only to happy to find time to run a RO1 or RO II course when asked. I bet I'm not the only instructor that feels that way.

     

    Having said that I don't see the 2 years as a hard and fast rule. If you read the newest RO manual and talk to your TG to keep up on any rule changes and clarifications you'll be fine until you can take a course. My experience is that the best RO's are not necessarily the most experienced but they have taken the courses more than once and make it a point to ask questions and discuss the rules on and off the firing line when they are unsure.

    GB

    +1

  11. Was in Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England last September and October.

    Drove from Dublin to Galway with site trips to Newgrange, and Tullamore. Toured the Tullamore DEW distillery and stayed in a B&B there. Next day on to Galway and a B&B there with a couple of side trips to see castles.

    Tour train through Galway and some shopping. Drove to the little town of Cong, just north of Galway. It's where they filmed the Quiet Man with John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara. Lovely place.

    Had a dinner at Dunguaire Castle just south of Galway. Great time that.

    Then drove to Waterford on the southeast coast. Toured the Waterford Crystal place, stayed at a B&B.

    Drove back to Dublin and hit the Guiness Brewery and the Jameson Distillery. All the time we were stopping at pubs for Irish Music Sessions and local flavor. Great time.

    Note - Nobody serves breakfast. No restaurants open before noonish. We're country people and get up early to see the sights, no food until lunch. Bring your own or you'll be hangry. Folks eat at home or, if your a tourist, at the B&B.

    Flew to Wales and stayed at a B&B in Cardiff for two nights. Drove to LLantrasant to see where the Black Army was founded in the 1600's. This is where the English(welsh) Long Bowman came from. The ones that won at Agincourt and Cercey.

    Then via train to Glasgow, rent a car and drove to Stirling and the Wallace Monument (yes, I climbed all the stairs). Drove to Inverness to see the Queen of Blings peoples castle in Cawdor. Then back down the north side of Loch Ness to see my peoples ruins (we backed the wrong king). Back to Glasgow then train back to Cardiff and the same B&B then drove to Windsor via Stonehenge. A day trip to London (too crowded for this old boy) and then home. In all 28 days.

    We'll do it again but stay in Ireland for more music and fun.

    We did our own planning, reservations, flights, cars, B&B's etc. Enjoyed the heck out of it.

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