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  1. 1 hour ago, Chicken Rustler, SASS #26680 said:

    Is it more than zero? How many is ok? I found one study that estimated 4%, that's more than zero. How many more will it be if we cut down on the appeal process? Supposedly there's almost 200 people released from death row because of new evidence of innocence, maybe some people think that's not very many and some think it's way too many. Is the goal of the death penalty justice or efficiency? 

    I don't think that anybody is saying that the appeals process should not go through. What many are saying is that it shouldn't go on for years. And once a final "Guilty" verdict has been rendered, carry out the sentence in short order. I don't think that it's in society's best interest to keep criminals around for twenty years "just in case" science advances to the point that somebody creates a Time Machine that we can go back and see who did it.  

    And again, if he knows himself well enough to know that he did Wrong and want to pay for it now, that's fine.

  2. This discussion reminds me of a part of Heinlein's "Starship Troopers" When a Deserter was hanged for Murder, and the discussion that Johnnie had with himself over the Hanging. The following is a description of it from a Site called LitCharts.

     

    Johnnie remembers how he spent time wondering how to prevent similar crimes. Even though they are rare, one is too many. Dillinger had looked normal, and his behavior hadn’t raised any red flags during the recruitment process. Johnnie realizes that if criminals exist, at least capital punishment prevents them from repeating their crimes. If Dillinger understood what he was doing, he deserved to die. If he had been so crazy that he didn’t understand his actions, then he still deserved to die, because people shoot mad dogs. Even if insanity is an illness, Johnnie still only sees two possibilities: Dillinger couldn’t be cured and he was better off dead for everyone’s safety; or he could be cured but understanding what he’d done would have driven him to suicide. Regardless of how he approached it, Johnnie always arrived at the same result: Dillinger’s death.

     

    Johnnie concluded that he could live with that.

    If circumstances lead me to a point where I was in the scenario Alpo laid out, I could too.

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  3. On 8/9/2025 at 1:40 PM, John Kloehr said:

    The state (society) is entitled to its remedy. It costs more to put someone to death than to imprison for life, and the state applying the death penalty is an extraordinary remedy. So is life in prison.

     

    10 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

    My niece does make a point that it costs far less to keep someone in prison for life than all the appeals and time wasted on death penalties. I agree there should be a time limit on the appeals process and one year sounds good!

    The problem with all that is that we're STILL going to go through the Trials and Appeals anyway, before we get to the "put to death" part of the whole thing. 

    If he knows that he's evil enough to deserve death, so be it.

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  4. 1 hour ago, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said:

    But at this point I’ve gotten good ideas! Thanks everyone!

    Just as a wrap up, I'd like to know what you decide to do. Pictures would be good, too. It might help somebody else.

  5. If it were me, I'd either keep the 97 for Cowboy shooting, or sell it to someone who would, and get a Mossberg 500. Either the Combat Combo or the 20" 7 shot version. I'd go with a modern gun for reliability and parts availability.

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  6. 47 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

    My last name has been used in a few cop shows.as bad guys names. Italian mafia types.

    My old friend's name was used as a Bad Guy on "CSI" once. Since I have a DVR, after the show was over, I was able to rewind it, call him, and play it for him. He thought it was hilarious.

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  7. 26 minutes ago, Badlands Bob #61228 said:

    Suicide is the easy way out.  Let them serve the next 40+ years in a prison and then die from medical malpractice in their old age.   

    i'd rather save the expense of a trial, feeding and housing him, and seeing him publish a book just to get famous again. Be done with him, and be confident that he can NEVER hurt another human being again.

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  8. 1 minute ago, largo casey #19191 said:

    I found out there was another person in town with my full name when they came knockin on my door with a warrent for his arrest                                                                                                                                       Largo

    Just remembered another one: there used to be another guy with the same first and last name as I have here in Tucson, and he even lived on the same STREET as I did. 

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  9. My Mailbox sits my and my neighbor's house on the East side of my property. His also sits on the East side of HIS property. My house is the last house on the street, there is NO other Mailbox that could be mine. I have 6" numbers on my house that are visible from the street, a distance of a whopping 40'. I got so tired of having to go nextdoor to get my stuff, that I finally got a 8X10 sign with my address number and an arrow pointing to my house and mounted it on the Mailbox.

  10. Good enough. Stuff happens. It's just that we've had some shenanigans go on around here. 

    Ruger, while not clones, makes the Vaquero and Blackhawk with a transfer bar safety. As far as I know, they are the only revolvers of this type that are safe to carry 6. I carry a New Model Vaquero as my EDC, loaded with 6. 

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  11. 3 hours ago, Pat Riot said:

    That’s a nice one. Is that the original grip?

     

    3 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

    No, didn't care for the orginal at all. 

    I'm the same way. OEM S&W grips don't fit my hand at all. Old Herrett Shooting Star grips fit my hand like they were made for them.

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  12. 3 hours ago, Alpo said:

    So that's how I've been doing it. Either a copy/paste of the url if the picture is online somewhere, or an "ad file" when the picture is on my computer.

    Gotcha. I've done "ad file" whenever it's one of my pictures, but copy and paste if on the confuser.

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