Dungannon Gunner
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6 hours ago, Mud Marine,SASS#54686 Life said:Golly, gee. What happened to my Sharps '50-140 or .50 3-1/4" rifle? I use it for BPCR and so do one or two other black powder afficianados. It was late for buffalo harvesting but was around. I load it with a ton o fHoly Black and use a 650 grain postell bullet. It works for me. Just aim for Mars and it will drop down onto the target.
It works for mile matches as well as regular 500 yard shoots. Mine is fancy, modern C. Sharps product with both Kelly and MVA extra long range sights. I deal with Buffalo Arms.
WOW! SASS # 686. Thank you for helping keep this sport alive so those that came along late (me for one) are able to participate and have so much fun!
I added the 50-140 (50 3 1/4) for Single Shot and Buffalo. The are the same, correct?
Thanks Mud Marine!
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I added 38-50 to Single Shot (SS) and Buffalo( )B, 40-50 to SS and B, 44 Evans New and Old to Lever Rifle( L)R, 40-82 to SS and LR, 40-70 WCF and 40-70 Sharps to SS and B, 38-70 to LR........... THANK YOU CIMARRON RED!
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10 hours ago, Lucky R. K. said:What about the 25-21 Stevens? You might need to look a bit for this one. Mine is good, just barely, for 200 yards.
Lucky
WOW Mr Lucky I did not expect to see that little sweetie come up on the screen! The short answer is I do NOT know. According to what I have so far; it would NOT be allowed for pistol caliber nor Buffalo. However it seems to qualify for Single shot rifle. It was designed in 1897 and used in a single shot rifle. The Stevens 44 and 44 1/2 did not come along until 1903. Please let me know if you can find a reference to the contrary.
THANKS!!!
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On 11/16/2019 at 3:50 PM, Jimmy Reb, SASS #54804 said:25-20 ?
21 hours ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said:25-20 is a legal Main Match Rifle cartridge ......
So is not a legal Longrange Rifle Cartridge ....Except for Pistol Caliber Longrange Events .....
And it is really hard to see or hear impacts on steel much past 50 yards ....
Jabez Cowboy
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Guys I have looked over almost all that I have and also looked the 25.20 up on the Colt forum and according to others this was never a part of pre 1900. Can you help me with a reference point! Good for Rifle but not pistol cal THANKS!
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I'm afraid of those Big flies I hear you have up there that actually take a bite out of you!
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5 hours ago, Ron "Ironhead" Smith said:Check the date of introduction for the cartridges. The .405 WCF is from 1904, I will disallow it from Buffalo Rifle at least in the annual matches I run.
Ironhead you would be right to do so. I must have written down 405 grains for something and let my fingers do to much walking. Thanks for the catch!
PS, thanks for a great Long Range match in Alabama at the Southeast Regional!
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5 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:What do you call 'long range'?
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Most of us down South are lucky with 200 and 300 yard range availability. Go to Quigley Montana match and you can shoot 1000 and 805 yards
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4 hours ago, Jabez Cowboy,SASS # 50129 said:Both .33 WCF and .35 WCF are post 1900 designs ....
Jabez,
Danged if you aint right!
33 WCF used in 1886 Win but not developed until 1902
35 WCF used in 1895 but not developed until 1903
Corrections made. Nice catch! Thanks!
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12 minutes ago, Three Foot Johnson said:As the rules are written, there's no reason they wouldn't be legal, although .303 Savage is a bit rare and hard to come by.
Thanks Three Foot Johnson. If you ever see any supporting documentation, please pass it along.
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1 hour ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:Add .40-70 Sharps Straight and .40-70 Bottleneck
Added. Done. Nice catch. Thank you!
P.S. We have never met but I have a lot of respect for you based on your reputation and knowledgeable answers to partner's questions!
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36 minutes ago, El Mulo Vaquero, SASS #55942 said:38-72 WCF, originally developed in 1895 for the Winchester 1895 rifle. Also used by some single shot rifle manufacturers
Done! Thanks Nice catch!
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7 hours ago, Three Foot Johnson said:.303 British, .303 Savage?
If you find some information as Griff listed then I would be happy to include on the list I am putting together. I am certainly NOT THE expert and want to go with information that we can all document in some way.
Thank you
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8 hours ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:I just walk, run, or sneak of closer. I know this doesn't really help, but it's Thursday.
I like your strategy!
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7 hours ago, Griff said:And the 40-90 SBN (Sharps Bottle Neck) is also a different cartridge than the 40-90 Sharps Straight?. There was also a .40-50 SBN.
Added. Thanks!
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8 hours ago, Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 said:You should include the 44-90 Sharps BN....its a different case than the Remington
Done... Thanks!
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2 hours ago, Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 said:I'm a little confused. Are you wanting to detail cartridges used back when on the buffalo ranges or are you trying to develop a list of "long range cartridges' that have been used in modern buffalo matches?
All cartridges that can be /are legally used for SASS Long Range Competition
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I am working on a Long Range informational packet and one of the areas I would like to detail are the calibers used in Buffalo and Single Shot categories. Listed here is my second try at finding most if not all the calibers used back in the day and SASS legal. Note that Single shot includes all those listed and Buffalo only includes those .375 and larger. Thanks in advance for any and all assist!
25-35 WCF
25-36 Marlin
30 U.S. (30-40 Krag, 30 Army)
30-30 WCF (30 WCF)
32 Special
32-40 Ballard
33 WCF
35 WCF
38-55 Marlin and Ballard
38-56 WCF
40-100
405 WCF
40-60 WCF
40-65
40-90 Sharps
43 Spanish
44-100
44-100 Ballard
44-105 Sharps (necked)
44-77 Sharps
44-90 Rem
45-100 Ballard
45-100 Sharps
45-110 Sharps
45-120 Sharps
45-125 Sharps
45-60 WCF
45-70 Gov WCF
45-75 WCF
45-75-Sharps
45-90 Sharps
50 Gov (old 50-70 Musket Caliber)
50-90 Sharps
50-100 Sharps
50-110 Sharps
50-70 Gov
56-50
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Very, very nice!!! I plan on watching them all.
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Thanks Tyrel! I may go that route if I cannot find one that also has the wind flap release on top.
15 hours ago, Tyrel Cody said:Academy sports. O'Rageous 6 ft Beach Umbrella. I think the 9 ft ones work too.
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Any suggestions on where to find telescoping rod umbrellas for the Ryder mounts.. The tube diameter needs to be 7/8 and all I am finding are way to big. Mine finally gave it up to strong winds at the Great Alabama SE Regional. A very very nice match
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Lots. However,, Red Skelton would be at the top of my list. Also for true hero type celbs I would go with one of my home down folks. Mr. Gary Powers. Anybody know who Gary is? Recent movie made about him, the U2 pilot that was shot down overseas
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More than I thought after I started writing them down. At the top of my list are Red Skelton, Dolly Parton and Gary Powers
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Just received my dues renewal notice and brand new membership card. The second sentence states "The card is a brand new design that is durable and packs a lot of benefits." Does anyone know if after you pay the dues you get a second mailing with the "durable" card? The one I received is on the same paper as the invoice and appears to be standard copy paper weight with no special coating.
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Best Cartridge reference book?
in SASS Wire
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Which reference book for Old West cartridges would you recommend. Both 'Cartridges of the World' and 'Ammo Encyclopedia recommended members on the SASS wire .