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3 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:
Well how would you do it ?
Easy, just remove the reference to "the Hegelian Dialectic," and leave the remainder. Point made, problem solved!
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52 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:
I;m seeing more that colleges are using Hegel to synthesize communism from Marx and Smith.
Hegel was generally thinking of logic, and was using the dialectic process to work toward what I will call "truths" by reconciling the thesis and antithesis.
On the other hand, I would proffer that colleges and the professors that push a communist perspective do so as Marx and Engels did. They have an endpoint in mind, and use the process to get where they want to be.
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9 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:
I think it would be hard for anyone to get this detailed in a meme
It's not that they didn't get it detailed, they got it wrong.
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33 minutes ago, John Kloehr said:
You may have just explained how colleges produce communists. They take a truth and a falsehood (thesis and anti-thesis) and create a new falsehood (synthesis).
I can easily postulate the synthesis of a truth and a falsehood must be a falsehood.
That would be the Marx and Engels approach, not Hegel.
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On 10/27/2024 at 11:23 AM, Buckshot Bob said:
That is not the Hegelian Dialectic as I learned it way back when in college philosophy class. I mean, maybe if you squint one eye and close the other, and cant your head to the side, it might kind of, sort of, almost resemble the Hegelian Dialectic, but it is a stretch.
At its very simplest, there are premises. One is a "thesis," or positive statement, and an "antithesis," or a negative statement contradicting the first. Unlike Plato and others, who would discard both, Hegel asserted a third option, "synthesis," which reconciles the two premises creating a new "higher truth." If we take the synthesis as the new thesis, this can go on ad infinitum. Hegel applied the dialectic process to both logic and things such as understanding the consciousness. This brief explanation doesn't really do the process justice, but it gets the point across.
It is perhaps interesting to note that Marx and Engels were critical of Hegel and his philosophy, but essentially used it to say that in the contest between capitalism and socialism (thesis & antithesis) the result would be communism, hence ending the need for further dialectic. Again, they were more in depth, but the above is probably closer to their thoughts than Hegel's.
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29 minutes ago, Alpo said:
So do the ones that don't.
Kind of the point-
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42 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:
For context, the full quote is "Not wishing to be left behind by Hank Azaria, I would like to apologise on behalf on Monty Python for all the many sketches we did making fun of white English people We're sorry for any distress we may have caused." This after Azaria apologized to "every single Indian person" for voicing Abu on The Simpsons. Very much tongue in cheek.
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1 minute ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:
I believe I said that.
Yes you did, before you proceeded to analyze away the humor.
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8 minutes ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:
Funny joke, but the act of fishing without a license is a violation, whether fish are caught or not.
Old guy would still be cited.
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14 hours ago, Seamus McGillicuddy said:
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Never fails to give me goosebumps
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