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  1. 2 hours ago, Fort Reno Kid said:

    Howdy Pards


    I always thot 45ACP and 45 Cowboy Special were essentially the same length. Google search was inconclusive but the Starline website indicates that they are essentially the same.




    Fort Reno Kid 


    Essentially the same length - yes.

    The same thing - no.


    See @Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329post above.


  2. So as not to sidetrack the the other topic referencing annealing 45 Colt cases:


    How do "YOU" do it?


    Of course pictures would help with the description if you care to take the time, especially if using a special contraption you built to do it.

  3. Thank y'all.  I've modified it and showed the change in the first post.  We have some new and newer shooters and I want to be sure they can comprehend.

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  4. 22 minutes ago, Dusty Devil Dale said:

    I don't see R3 in your diagram.  Do you mean P3?

    Yes - should have been a "P". Thank you.

    11 minutes ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

    If he shot R3 and other R targets those are misses.

    Yep - I'll have to change that.  Should have been "P".

  5. I need assistance articulating the correct response.  Does what I've posted make sense?




    Stage instructions for the revolvers state to engage four targets with a continuous Nevada sweep.  Shooter draws first revolver and successfully engages the first four targets but the fifth round fails to fire.  The shooter declares “broke gun” and places the revolver on the table, draws second revolver and continues the shooting string with P3, finishing after 5-rounds on P3.  What’s the call?



    The unfired round (bad primer) does not count as the round did not go “downrange”.  The shooter has four choices in this scenario:

    1) Re-engage the same target and reload the unfired chamber for the last target = NO penalty
    2) Re-engage the same target and take the MISS on the last target of the shooting string instead.
    3) Move on to the next target & NOT reload = MISS only for the unfired round.
    4) Move on to the next target; reload & return to the skipped target = Procedural for HITTING the targets out of order (but no misses).


    I've changed it to read as follows:


    1) Re-engage P3 with the second revolver then reload the unfired chamber for the last target = NO penalty
    2) Re-engage P3 with the second revolver and take the MISS on the last target of the shooting string instead.
    3) Move on to P2 with the second revolver & NOT reload = MISS only for the unfired round.
    4) Move on to P2 with the second revolver; then reload & return to P3 = Procedural for HITTING the targets out of order (but no misses).

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  6. 3 hours ago, Trailrider #896 said:

    Packing around either revolver the size of those two, does NOT IMHO make much sense.  For hunting in woolybooger country or moose, I'd just as soon have the .45-70.  

    Having packed a S&W 460 Magnum with 8 3/8" barrel on a hunting trip, I can assure you that I would much rather carry a slim lever-action rifle in the same caliber.


    Optic choices for that hand-cannon were also slim.  Not much would hold up to the recoil impulse.  Worse than the 454 Casull.


    Nothing wrong with the 45-70.  That said, the 460 S&W Magnum uses .452" bullets and are overall shorter.  Shorter actions should result in smoother/faster handling.


    Using bullets less than 300 grains, the 460 will produce the same or higher velocity with shorter barrels than the 45-70 will with a 24-inch barrel.  If using/wanting to use bullets heavier than 300 gr, the 460 is not the round to choose.


    It's good to have choices.

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  7. I would really like to have a lever rifle in 460 S&W Magnum.


    I am not willing to spend Big Horn Armory prices for it, though.  Especially after watching how much effort Michael Bane had to put into levering one.


    As for tacti-cool lever guns, I believe there will always be people who like and will buy it.  I have had a few instances where I was thinking how great it would be to have a light mounted to rifle.

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  8. I reloaded some rounds this past weekend with Clays and W231.


    Using Clays at minimum load, it would not reliably cycle a G19 with Trijicon RMR.  At max load it would cycle but brass was all over the place.


    Using W231 at minimum load, it would cycle but that load seemed a bit "snappier".


    I will be trying TiteGroup tomorrow after work, if the rain moves out.

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  9. 4 minutes ago, Chancy Shot, SASS #67163 said:

    No, No, No!  Gunfighters have two pistols out.  There is no requirement as to how they are fired.  You can pull two and shoot them duelist if you want to.  Badland has what I would do.  But Eyesa has a poiint.



    A gunfighter is required to shoot double-duelist if not shooting gunfighter - that would require five shots with the left hand and five shots with the right hand.  Otherwise, they are shooting out of category.


    Not sure how that would affect two required reloads...

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  10. 1 hour ago, Happy Jack, SASS #20451 said:

    This Months American Rifleman magazine had a subsonic 9mm load in the Handloads section. 147gr copper plated bullet over 3.1 gr. of Titegroup

    I have not started reading this issue, yet.  Thanks.


    You would figure, though, that I just received a rather large order of 115 gr coated bullets.

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  11. 1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said:

    I would require the use powder coated bullets and not copper jacketed.



    No jacketed or plated bullets will be allowed if we do this.


    My concern with velocity is what impact (no pun intended) the bullets will have on our targets.  Some of our targets are probably 20 years old and are mild steel.

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  12. 11 hours ago, El Sobrante Kid said:

    Couldn't you change the recoil spring to a lighter version? Or are you looking for a load that works in factory stock guns?

    Looking into allowing steel shooting on non-CAS weekends at cowboy targets.


    The idea was to use SASS bullet and velocity rules at SASS recommended target distances.


    Ideally, I personally would want a load that works in stock guns.  Can't speak to what anyone else would want or be willing to do.

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  13. Here is a video taken at the Deadwood Marshals club in Sorrento, LA with a "running" turtle.


    The turtle starts moving when the rifle is picked up.  The speed of the turtle can be adjusted to run faster or slower.


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