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  1. 1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:

    I just started loading 9mm using 124gr cast coated pills. Would you share your 231 load please? My first attempt was 3.9gr of TG with an OAL of 1.27-1.30 and they ran about 1030fps but flattened the primers and firing pin dent.

    Sorry Pat for the hyjack, just jumped on the opportunity!

    Not a problem at all, my friend. Hijack away! :)

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  2. **** New York!


    We need a wall around all major cities. Each city gets a wall and no one can leave. They also can’t vote statewide or federal, just because the cities have screwed up enough of this country in the past century. 

    If only I were king…


    A boy can dream…

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  3. 5 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

    Leprechaun army!  Beware the" little people."


    We had those in ROTC: BAR, M-1 rifle, M-1 and M-2 carbine, 1911 pistol, M-1A1 submachine gun, and generic Browning light machine gun.  Also had huge slide rules for instruction.


    I would love to get any one of those now.

    When I was in Gunnery School there was a BAR, an M14 and an M16 built the same as those in our Small Arms training. We were not permitted to touch the BAR or M14 models. I had no interest in the M16. Years later I wished I would have checked it out just for kicks. 

    3 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

    Had a governor who couldn't even pronounce California.

    Yes…Kaleepornia. Ahnuld the Austrian. :lol:

  4. 5 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:


    I didn't know that there was a new formula, all of the Unique I had was pre 2000. I gave away the opened containers and sold the un-opened containers during the plague. I guess that in the event of the Zombie Apocalypse, it would be a good powder to have as it is very versatile but I won't be stocking it anytime soon.

    The new formula is much better than the old, but there are definitely cleaner powders available. 

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  5. 22 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

    For the record (IMO) the nastiest, dirtiest powder I've run across was Trail Boss and Unique. They are not among my stock of powders, nor will they be.

    Unique was much dirtier before the “new formula” came out in the early ’00’s. It’s still a dirty powder if not loaded for optimum burn. 
    I agree on Trail Boss. 
    I have 300 rounds of .45 Colt loaded with it and I am tempted to pull the bullets and reload them with better powder. 

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  6. 3 minutes ago, bgavin said:

    Don't overlook No. 2 or No. 5, as both are ball types and not position sensitive.

    Clean Shot as well, but is a faster powder.


    No. 2 is very close to the 231/HP-38 burn rate.


    Thank you. Good to know. 

    My experimentation with pistol powders always seems to be affected by political or supply chain issues. 
    For years all I used was Unique powder. It worked for everything I shot. Then one day I couldn’t get Unique, so I tried Universal. I liked that so that’s what I used for a while and then tried Trail Boss and Bullseye.  Shhhhh…Don’t tell anyone, but I am not a big Trail Boss fan…

    When W244 came out I tried it and liked it.

    So, my pistol powder experience is:



    Trail Boss

    Bullseye (wadcutter rounds)


    Not a wide range, but it covered my bases. 


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  7. 6 hours ago, Alpo said:

    Do you suppose there is any water out there in the wilds, these days, that is safe to drink?

    Probably, but I wouldn’t test it by drinking it to find out. 

    Years ago two friends of mine wouldn’t heed the warnings of myself and my friend Craig warnings about drinking stream water in Yosemite Nat’l Park. 
    We were all very thirsty and hot, but Dave and Paul couldn’t wait until we got back to camp from a 14 mile hike. We still have about 2.5-3 miles to go. 
    They both spent the night sitting on outhouse type toilets. 
    We took them to a clinic the next morning. 
    They were surprised they didn’t have Giardia. The nurse said “Oh, you got lucky. Giardia is much worse.”

    Harsh lesson for two college educated know-it-alls. They got what they deserved for being snotty about my friend Craig and I “not having a college education.” Not sure what that had to do with not drinking stream water…



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    This is interesting. The person who bought this couch cleaned it with leather cleaner and the brand appeared. Some might think this is terrible. I would be showing this off. I’d even have photos to show vegans that show up at holiday parties. 

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  9. 18 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:

    I use Win 231/HP-38 in .45 ACP. It works well. So does Bullseye, but it’s a bit smokier in my experience. 

    An aquarium pump attached to the powder hopper helps settle powder with its vibration. 

    Thank you. I read that W231 and HP-38 are very similar. 

    I like that aquarium pump idea. I never considered that. Thank you. :)

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  10. Back in the 80’s I got to shoot one of those rifles. A friend of a friend let me try his rifle.
    If I remember correctly the rifle fired an 8mm round similar to a 30.06. It was a single shot falling block type receiver. The shooting stance was a bit awkward at first but after a couple of shots it was comfortable. With iron sights I shot a clover leaf group at 100 yards after a 3 or 4 shot warmup. The rifle weighed about 10 pounds. 

    It was fun. 

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