Come on pards, we shoot this sport because we want to have fun,,(You guys that only care about winning , ok, you are shooters and so you are still cool) you know, get away from the day to day crap, let's just have fun. Hey back in the day at Tyler Texas Peacemaker shoots I shot all black powder dualist and for several years I was as the Pres. said the club clown, I was there to have fun and I didn't care what place I got, it was so much fun! hey, who wants to have fun???