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  1. 1 hour ago, John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 said:

    There is nothing wrong with cut and weld short strokes. Do you have any idea how many Codymatic and Jimmy Spurs 73 are competition proven? 

    Removed, sorry to rant, and yes, I do have a very good idea. 

  2. 5 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said:



      If the shooter loads 11 in his rifle, the LTO doesn't get the penalty, the shooter does. Shooter is ultimately responsible for counting the rounds going into his firearm.

    What penalty does the shooter get for loading too many rounds?

  3. 1 minute ago, Duffield, SASS #23454 said:

    They SHOULD have one.  

    I have heard every argument under the sun for not having LTOs, including "The matches out West don't have them."

    Loading Table Officers were instituted to prevent just the scenario that started this thread.  Keeping them seems to be a loosing battle.

    It seems that many people do not like someone else counting their rounds, or do not want to wait until the LTO can observe them loading.

    Personally, when I get so important that I resent someone helping me be safe it will be time to sell my guns and sit on the porch.



    I agree that they should have one. It's hard to get much further out West than the clubs I shoot at, unless you go to Hawaii. They all require a LTO. That person can be either a full time dedicated LTO assigned the task, or it can NOW be a shooter in line that STOPS loading their own guns and becomes a dedicated LTO for the moment and actually watches the other shooter load. (this is my second choice, but better than nothing at all) Not doing so will get you a SDQ. That does not happen at the matches I shoot in some of the neighboring states, even the largest of them. It is given lip service, but I have NEVER seen it enforced. I just got back from a large match East of here. Not even one stage had a LTO on it. I held up my pistols to the shooter behind me at the Loading table and ask them to check them. This shooter was a top notch shooter... won category and placed high over all. The response was that "We don't do that here, or at any of the matches in (XX). As long as the LTO requirement is not enforced at the Premier matches, it's use will continue to decline. The rules have been watered down to allow for not assigning a LTO, but even the Watered down version is not enforced.   

  4. 1 hour ago, Hellbender said:

    The Old Fort Parker Patriots (Grosbeck, TX) made them out of cow ear tags for one of their annual matches fairly recently.

    cow ear tag.jpg

    Man, I bet that hurt when they were put on while picking up your shooter's package! Maybe I could just brand everyone on the Left Cheek. ;)


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  5. I have not cut and replaced the Spur, but have notched, heated and bend down the hammer on several. As for the timing on a Colt or Clone, sometimes a simple swap will work, but my experience has had me do some work on the Bolt to get it to drop at the right time. In the early days I screwed up many of my own guns messing with the timing, just out of ignorance. It looks so simple, but can be a bit tricky. You might just try it and see where thing fall. Over dressing the Cam can get you into trouble, so go slowly if you work on it. Playing with the inside leg of the Bolt is the cheapest part to replace if you mess it up. If you are cycling the action fast, setting the timing a little early can be helpful. Just try it, then do some research on dressing the Bolt and go for it. If you need to replace it because you went too far... it's not an expensive mistake, and can be a great learning process. when adjusting the timing on a Colt, just go slow.



  6. The “Good Old Days”. Most of us that have played this game a long time were a lot younger in the Good Old Days. Some of the things that use take place on a stage are not quite as palatable as the memory of them might seem to be.  The more time that goes by, the better we were. Playing the game as the Good Old Days are perceived to have been must be tempered a bit in today’s game. Today’s retro match needs to have a measured amount of today’s game infused into it. It’s called “Balance”.  Just writing stages that are full of everything that you use to do or have heard use to happen will just frustrate most shooters.  I am a strong proponent of “Playing the Game”, but moderation and balance is important. Having a dish of Ice Cream is great, being forced to eat a gallon of it, is not.  

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  7. I have spent a lot of time running the timer. No doubt that there have always been shooters that have blamed the T.O. for the mistakes that they made. The 170 call is one that is often disputed rather heavily. One of the hardest situations is when a shooter pulls his/her pistol at the wrong location, and the T.O. yells  "Move", not knowing that the shooter has already cocked the pistol. The shooter moves and then gets a SDQ. When a T.O. is slow to announce that a Shotgun Target isn’t down, it puts some shooter’s over the edge.

    A problem that I often see in today's game is the tendency to over use the "Benefit of Doubt”  I'm very big on cutting all the slack possible, and NOT being a "Hard Ass", and in fact trying to find a way to NOT penalize the shooter. I find it more difficult to get folks to be Posse Leaders and T.O. today, than I did yesterday. One reason is because of all the rules, clarifications, the fact that it can take away from your own game. Being a Good T.O. means being a Benevolent Dictator.


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  8. 36 minutes ago, High Spade Mikey Wilson said:

    Sorry folks but when I RO it's all about safety. I can't do everything involved on a stage and be efficient. My job, as far as I'm concerned, is to operate the timer, watch the shooter for firearm safety issues, count the number of shots fired in each pistol and rifle, watch the loading and unloading of the shotgun, and be prepared to stop the shooter if I have to for any safety reason. I don't watch targets, call hits or misses, or P's. That's what you have 3 spotters for. I don't mind doing the job, I try and do it the best I can. I do, on very rare occasions, have a brain fart and make a mistake now and then. If someone wants a re-shoot because of something I did wrong they will get it, but it is nice to attend a shoot once in a while where I can just help by doing something different.

    It's the T.O.s job to call "P's". 

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  9. 2 hours ago, Chief Rick said:

    Again, KG9.


    Again, be very careful in application and clean your hands well after. 


    I put just a smidge on my index finger and wipe around the throat of the holster only as deep as the cylinder. 


    You don't want to put so much on as to leave it wet. 

    Yeah, put a little on your index finger, but be careful if you pick your nose, you might poke your brain out when your finger goes all the way in. :P

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  10. Man-O-Man-O-Man! That stuff does INDEED work, but you had better pay attention. Get a little too much and your guns will jump out of the holsters as you run. I've seen it on more than one occasion. I just do a good Wet=Fit on my leather and unless it is extremely humid there is never a problem. An occasional touch of wax polish inside the holster helps to keep any leather swelling down from excessive moisture. But yes.. that KG9 stuff will really slick things up, and you will drop everything that you pick up if you don't get it all off of your fingers. 



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  11. 19 minutes ago, Griff said:

    Nay, my good friend, for I am a gamer also.  45 Colt in rifle and when I deign to shoot suppository handguns... they're chambered for the 45 Colt also, but I shoot that ultimate big bore gamer C45S!  I download my ammo, have soft springs in my guns, look for the most efficient way to shoot a stage... place my guns "just so" on the stage...  then proceed to pounce on the stage like a lion on a gazelle...   (in my head)!  ;)


    Go big or go home!  One need not shoot a mediocre, small caliber to be a gamer!

    Oh, I feel so ashamed.... I'll dig my 45s out of the safe and look at them. :blush:

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  12. Well, I wrote a novel here and decided that all you were just looking for a few opinions. Short story is that I've tried many guitars over the past 50+ years. I won't take my good one out of the house so after buying several inexpensive guitars, I settled on the IBANEZ AW54CE. 


  13. I see a lot of folks blameing stuck hulls on steel bases. I must say that I have no particular trouble with them. My experiences points to the vast majority of stuck shells coming from the crimp staying open and hard against the forcing cone area in the barrels. A good crimp is more likely to pull back in just a little and release a bit better. A good hone used on the forcing cone at the end of the chamber often helps.

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  14. Jabez:

    Interesting view of things, and of course you have every right to use any criteria you choose to select which matches you attend. At one point in time I was passionate about Long Range shooting so I do understand your desire.  But here are a couple of things to consider. First off we are a COWBOY ACTION SHOOTING organization and the majority of SASS clubs are putting on a CAS match, not a Long Range shooting match.  Very few clubs have the facilities, manpower, equipment, time, or desire to present a true Long Range event in conjunction with their CAS match. To most clubs it is just another side event.   Most certainly there are a few clubs that have enough interest, and everything else needed to put on a more traditional style Long Range type match.  But as far as I can see the number of folks shooting the Long Range events have dropped significantly.  It appears to me that one of  the reasons participation has dropped has been the length of time required to complete the event, at least at our home range. Most folks just want to shoot and move on to the next side event. As a MD, I am charged with putting on the match, and in doing so I must regard the wishes of the majority of our club membership. To that end our Long Range event will be streamlined.    

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  15. 7 minutes ago, J. Mark Flint #31954 LIFE said:

    ………..When done correctly, there is no violation of the 170. . . but it is also nearly impossible for anyone to tell what it is that is going on at the holster mouth on either drawing or reholstering from a spotters perspective...………. Keep in mind some of us are drawing and holstering at the same time and if you don't understand our movements, you might well be missing the bits that matter.

    These points are a fact. Another fact is that we have some folks that are far too eager to ding someone and some folks that are far too timid to make a call WHEN NECESSARY. It's almost as bad as using the inclinometer to find out if the holster is 29 degrees or 31 degrees. I can tell this, if I need a inclinometer to find out, it's going to be 29 degrees. Basically the same goes for making a call on the 170.... if it's so close that it needs to be discussed, then it's going to be 169 degrees. If there is absolutely no doubt, then it should be obvious to the most casual observer and especially to those that are charged with making the call.  If you have a shooter that is getting close to the edge let them know that they have reached 169 degrees so that they can be a bit more cautious before it becomes 171 degrees.  



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