[SSBN-826 Columbia class replacing Ohio class]

Maybe, but more probable is they’ll decide the cost is too high and reduce the number built as was done with the Zumwalt destroyer and B-2 programs, which made the unit cost umpteen bazillion each. 

[Another snow question]

3 hours ago, Eyesa Horg said:

 Sand will also absorb the sun and help melt it.

Sand will melt the sun? 
 

(sorry, I just couldn’t resist. 😁)

[What happened to the CARTOONS]

4 minutes ago, Wolfgang, SASS #53480 said:

the Cartoons  !

 

I always looked at the CARTOONs first of all !

See Misty’s post at the top of the Saloon and Wire forums. 

[SSBN-826 Columbia class replacing Ohio class]

I bet they miss both cost and completion dates. 10 years to build seems excessive. Perhaps the others will take less time?

[Beat With the Ugly Stick]

Ugh. 

[Hickok 45]

It’s a joke, I say it’s a joke son. 

[How Mark Twain helped U.S. Grant]

Grant’s book is an excellent, though somewhat difficult read due to his style of writing. It’s interesting to read Grant’s accounts in his own words. 

[Houston a.m. 0800 hrs, Tuesday]

Ugh, looks like a heavy, wet snow. A pain to shovel.

 

[Rogues, One and All]

Here’s Groucho performing the same song at 78 years old on The Dick Cavette Show. 
 

 

[Rogues, One and All]

5 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Trick if the lights and camera angle.  Or bad retouching oh the photo. 

 

 

 

 

Really bad computer retouching. 
 

 

[Rogues, One and All]

6 hours ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

Where's Gummo...?  

 

Here…

 

 

 

[Black Powder shotshells.]

11 hours ago, "Big Boston" said:

 

The article was referring to paper, as plastic was not a thing yet. It would somewhat apply to plastic, but plastic being thinner to get the same effect, according to something I read, the mouth of the hull would have to be even further into the forcing cone. IOW, the article went on to say, in a 67mm (2 5/8") 12 ga shotgun chamber a 2 3/4" plastic hull would seem like an ideal BP setup. 

Brass hulls are an entirely different kettle of fish, as they use 11 ga wads. I'd think an longer forcing cone may be of some advantage, run cleaner and less recoil. 

 

But in my setup, I'm using a 2 3/4" plastic hull in a 3" chamber, would I see or notice any difference with a 3" hull. I'll make a pretty safe assumption that nobody shoots a 3" BP shotshell for Cowboy. 

 

BB

My Stoeger and TTN SxS guns have 3” chambers and have only had 2  3/4” shells thru them. I use the same components for smokeless and Goex BP - AA plastic hulls, 1 oz pink plastic wads and Win 209 primers.
 

I like the AAs because they’re commonly tossed by others after one firing. In 30 years of reloading shot shells, I’ve never paid for empty hulls. 
 

Fouling is unremarkable with real BP. Hot water rinse, pause, rinse again, followed by one or two tightly wadded 1/2 sheet paper towel dampened with Murphy’s mix. (Equal parts Murphy’s Oil soap, iso alcohol and hydrogen peroxide. 90% of the plastic snot from the wad comes out with the water. That’s all there is to it. Shooting BP is only as hard as one wants to make it. Like I said, it ain’t rocket surgery. 
 

That’s a really nice antique roll crimper you got there. I’ve no idea if it works well with plastic hulls (probably does). Perhaps others will chime in.
 

My roll crimper works on a drill press, but I rarely use it. Loading is a chore (for me) so I’ll do most anything to speed things along. My loads are done on a Mec. 

 

Welcome to the dark side!

 

 

[They’re still falling out of windows]

44 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

Depends on how high the window was. If it was a couple or 3-4 stories he probably lived until he splattered! If it was a 9-10 stories he probably had a heart attack on the way down.

I'm not a doctor but I watched Marcus Welby and I was a big fan of Doc Adams on Gunsmoke!

…or he was already dead when he “ jumped”out the window. 

[Black Powder shotshells.]

3 hours ago, "Big Boston" said:

I have a theory or experience question about shooting 2 3/4 black powder shells in a 3 inch chamber. It is fairly common to see new coach guns and even my single shot to be chambered 3", not 2 3/4".

 

I did read an old article on how the black powder shotguns of yesteryear were chambered a wee bit short so that the crimp opened up with a bit of the hull in the forcing cone, so that it would seal better and keep any combustion gases from getting past the the wad and ruining the pattern and fouling the barrel. 

 

I don't want to buy 3" hulls just to load Cowboy if I don't have to. 

 

A bit of trivia. In North America, the SAAMI spec for maximum pressure is the same for 2 3/4" and 3" shotshells. IOW a maximum average pressure (MAP) of 11,500 psi. 

 

In the rest of the world the C.I.P. standards for 12 ga shotshells 70mm (2 3/4") and shorter are 740 bar (10,733 psi) and for the longer shells 73mm, 76mm and 89mm (2 7/8", 3" and 3 1/2") the MAP is 1050 bar (15,229 psi). SAAMI specs 3 1/2" at 14,000 psi. 

 

BB  

What kind of hull are you talking about - paper, plastic, or brass?

[They’re still falling out of windows]

5 hours ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Based on the evidence....I'd say that he's stone cold dead.

Likely before he hit the pavement.  

[Great Commercials]

 

On 1/15/2025 at 7:43 PM, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

 

That’s almost $162 in today’s dollars. 

[Great Commercials]

On 1/18/2025 at 10:28 AM, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

Is this the same brainless, soulless,  unaccountable AI that runs the traffic lights in our area, the same AI that people are waiting with bated breath to have drive their cars and control their houses...and even businesses..., the same AI that is rapidly taking over our national defenses systems, that has too much control over our medical facilities, and runs a lot of machinery, sets prices based on population size, and so on ad-nauseam?

 

I have been working with computers of one sort of another for 59 years and have yet to  see one that is infallible.  They may be faster than I am and have more information stored in their digital so-called brains but in the long run they have no common sense, no experience, no true reflexes, and no personality.

 

And in most everyday situations they are not as smart as you and I are.

My father who had a mainframe computer business said about them, “Garbage in, garbage out.”

[Great Commercials]

On 1/16/2025 at 4:19 PM, Sedalia Dave said:

 

While you can still buy Anacin, the formulation used when that commercial was made is no longer available. One of the original ingredients in Anacin (Phenacetin) was banned by the FDA in 1983 because it was found to be a known carcinogen along with other lethal side effects including kidney failure. The Anacin sold today only contains aspirin and caffeine.

 

Good news is that phenacetin has been replaced by Acetaminophen. The closest OTC pain reliever to the original Anacin is Excedrin as it contains aspirin, acetaminophen, and caffeine. It is my go to pain reliever.

Thanks for that. I wondered about what became of the Anacin brand. Excedrin and Anacin were big competitors.  

[Great Commercials]

On 1/16/2025 at 10:18 AM, Eyesa Horg said:

With "jet" engines

 

On 1/16/2025 at 10:26 AM, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

Yeah,  should have been  "turboprop."

Announcer said “jet prop” at the very beginning. 
 

 

[Black Powder shotshells.]

There’s a whole lotta overthinking goin’ on in this here thread. To quote one of my BP mentors from way back, Driftwood Johnson, “…it ain’t rocket surgery.”

 

[Black Powder shotshells.]

1 hour ago, Dapper Dave said:

All of the items required have been delivered, first testers will be assembled this weekend.

Edit to add, I have Olde Eynsford 3F and my own home made which is much weaker. So, I will start with 50 gr of OE 3F with the 7/8ox shot, and 40 gr OE with the same shot. Shot size is #8 high antimony. 

40 grains of OE is more than enough (I use 38 grains equivalent under 1 oz #8 shot). There’s plenty of smoke, flame and boom with that. More than that is a waste of good powder. 

[Any experience with Heritage lever rifles?]

As others have said, it’s a ‘92 Winchester clone. I had the chance to extensively handle and shoot a couple back in November. A local scout troop bought them and we put them through their paces at an annual fundraiser held at our range. 
 

The guns were brand new straight from the box. We put about 400 rounds of factory .38 SP through each, at 5 rounds per shooter for 800 rounds total. We club volunteers loaded and cleared them after each shooter as quickly as we could. Needless to say, they got warm and dirty throughout a long day. 
 

They were stiff and notchy as most new ‘92s are these days, but held up well under the abuse. We had to retire one of the guns towards the very end as we started getting failures to fire, no doubt due to crud buildup. 
 

They’re good looking, but will definitely need some gunsmithing to smooth things out, which is in line with every gun we play with in our game. The first thing I’d do is shorten the mag tube spring and lighten the loading gate spring. After 300 or so rounds I had to use  a Bic pen as a push stick to get rounds through the gate. Dang, my fingers got sore!

 

At $700 which is significantly less than a new  toggle link gun, it seems like a good starter rifle. It will definitely need tuning, but will last you until you get the itch to add to your collection. I started with a ‘92 and shot that for my first 3 years in SASS. 

 

 

 

 

[1866 question ID help]

I’m with Abilene. I can see the edge of the film in the photos (or the residue).  

[Sharing egg sitting duty]

Mama had to go out and get the groceries. Now papa can take a nice nap. 😁

[Anyone using Perfect Pattern powder for cartridges?]

5 hours ago, Go West said:

Thanks for the link. The only results I get from the search feature is me getting pissed off. I use PP in shotgun. 

The Sass Wire search feature on this forum is next to useless. Put Sassnet.com followed by your search topic into Google and it’ll give you links to the Sass Wire related to your search.