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Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

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Posts posted by Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

  1. 2 years???? Wow that's longer than I thought!!What the H$#@ takes 'em so long??? It can't take two years to make one and I doubt they're that behind on orders. Maybe they just have 2 guys working in the custom shop on saa's??? :P

    Actually that is all they have. You can't run a production line making one or two guns a day. They have to wait until they get enough orders to make it worthwhile to run off a batch. I talked to the Colt Custom shop guy at length at the last Shot Show and he said there were, in fact, only two people that work on the SAA.

  2. Stoeger's cost 1/3 as much as an SKB. Is the SKB three times better? I know National and World class shooters that shoot both. Both guns need to be tuned for competition. The SKB tunes a little easier because the parts are fitted better in the first place. I have worn out an SKB so even they won't last forever. I have had both break. They are both machines. The SKB is without doubt a higher quality machine, but it is a machine. I just bought a Stoeger to do an article for the Chronicle on how to tune them. They are a bit different that the last time I wrote an article about them. I have not and will not fire the gun before tuning it as, for me, it is not suitable for competion out-of-the=box. (Of course, neither is the SKB or BSS.) After working the action a dozen or so times and starting to examine the new Stoeger it will need more "tuning" than I originally anticipated. "Luckily" for me and the readers this one has virtually everything wrong with it that most people will encounter with their own Stoegers. It will take a lot of extreme close up photography to show all the little issues and how to fix them so it will be a few months before the article makes it into the Chronicle.

  3. While remaining within the rules applying to external modifications, what options would one have to allow the hammers to be cocked easier with a sweeping motion. (bending, spring work, adding extensions, changing hammers, etc.) I have a Rossi and a T.Barker I am winterizing with.

    The rule on external modications is clear and set out in bold letters and red in the Shooter's Handbook. "Any firearm modification not referenced in this Handbook is prohibited." Springwork is internal. Anything else should be reviewed by the ROC. I can think of a couple of situations where the "modification" could not be identified. For example, I had a CZ outside hammer for several years that had extremely short spurs. Then a few years ago CZ changed the hammers and started selling them with higher spurs. If someone ordered the new stock CZ hammers and put them on their older coach gun who could tell the difference?

  4. On one batch of Starline brass it was one. Bought 2000 pieces of brass and loaded them all up. On the first firing one out of two split. Kinda weird they did not split at the case neck. They split right in the middle. (Lengthwise not around the circumferance.) Called Starline and they said they weren't properly heat treated. They told me to put them in the oven for a few hours. (I forget the temperature.) Rather than insist on returning the brass I tried to work with them. Biggest mistake I ever made. Ruined a stainless steel turkey pan and the brass stayed crappy. Starline replaced half. I had mixed the crap brass into my other ammo so I still get a random split when shooting that ammo. ANYONE can have a bad batch of product. Almost ALL brass cases will last a long time with the low pressure loads we shoot.

  5. My daughter is coming home for Christmas so I thought I better wash the floors. My floors are tile and I don't think I've done anything to them for two or three years. After all, the Romans had tile floors and I don't ever recall reading anything about them washing them. Well, first off I kept running into #8 shot all over the house. Amazing how that stuff migrates. Have no idea how it gets from the gun room to the kitchen, but they were there. As I kept scrubbing what I thought was the pattern in the tile started coming off. Cheap tile? As I moved from room to room I started seeing little streaks that looked like spots I had missed. Like a cat chaseing a laser pointer I was on them. Finally figured out it was the sun shinning through the Venetian blinds onto the newly glossy floor. Don't know if I like the glossy look. Sorta like the fanatics who polish the receivers on their 66s when everyone knows you should shoot BP through them and let them turn a natural mustard color. The things we do for Christmas! ;) :lol::D :P

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  6. What rounds are used in the single trigger Stoeger are irrelevant as it is a mechsnical tirgger. The issue is it is a Rube Goldberg arrangement and doesn't always work that well. Lots of people have problems with them. There are always a few that chime in that theirs work perfect. You pays your money and you takes your chances. The double trigger is much more reliable.

  7. The trigger spring and the trigger block safety are the same spring. There are at present no replacements. You will have to gently bend the safety side of the spring just a bit or make your own spring. I clipped the spring and made a lighter coil spring for the safety side.

     

    Lighter hand wound coil on the left. On the right is the stock spring that has been clipped. Note the bottom of the spring is left as a "J". If you cut the stock spring and don't leave the "J" it will tip over.

     

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  8. If a stage writer wants it one way or the other, he/she needs to specify that. I think it's BS to require something not specified in the stage description.

    Yep, that is what YOU think. Everyone does not think like you or think like me and how stage instructions are interpreted in different areas of the country ain't the same. Easier to ask than to get into an argument about what "I think" should have been done after-the-fact. "Well that isn't the way we do it around here" always trumps "but that ain't they way we do it where I come from" argument.

  9. Like many things in SASS there is no standard. In some places if you don't start on an end you get a P or at least a very long discussion. Same with "two" separate sweeps of the plates. In some places you have to do the two sweeps from the same end. In other places you can do a "dirty" sweep, I.e., sweep one direction, double tap the end plate and sweep back the opposite direction. Whenever I'm on the road I always ask. You would be surprised at some of the answers.

  10. Lunger and others thanks for the offers to help. Lunger the Wednesday volunteers do not haul steel or do any heavy lifting or painting. They help with the actual running of the side matches. (Spotting, timing, scoring, etc.) Running the side matches has its own set of challenges and things aren't always as easy as they might seem. Winter Range reserves virtually all the ranges on the west side of Ben Avery from February the 14th through February 27th. The side matches are on Wednesday, February 22. For the Wild Bunch match and the Cowboy action match, and for the actual Wednesday side matches, there are hundreds of people shooting so there is no question about the status of our reservations and the use of the various ranges and range buildings. However, on the long range bays even though we begin set up days before the Wednesday side matches begin and generally take them down on the Sunday and Monday following the end of Winter Range (this year that would be February 26th and 27th) the bays used for long range appear to be empty and unused on days other than side match Wednesday and other user groups want to use those bays. Trying to be good neighbors we have tried to accomodate matches that have been scheduled for the weekend of February 18th and the weekend of February 25. (We do some juggling of ranges almost every year.) Thus, we have to delay setting some long range targets and have to move other long range targets early in order to accomodate these other user groups. (These matches are using the 500 meter range. The 1000 yard range is used for parking during Winter Range.) Also, some of the bays used for long range belong to the Department of Public Safety and they only allow Winter Range to use their ranges for a limited time. So Pigpen is doing the best he can to try and accomodate shooter requests for an opportunity to sight in their rifles. Hopefully everyone that wants to will have an opportunity to fire a few practice rounds.

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