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Posts posted by Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933

  1. You are describing the classic symptom of a too lite top lever spring.  The spring is the only thing keeping the gun locked.  The locking lug is pushed forward by the top lever spring and when the gun fires the locking lug attempts to (in effect) move to the rear by inertia.  First check to make sure that no dirt or debris or a random pellet is not lodged where it should not be.  Then try some Winchester AA Low Noise Low Recoil shells.  If it works OK with them you have probably got it set up OK for cowboy loads.  I could not find any subsonic Bornaghi 7/8 loads.  The lowest velocity listed on their website and a couple of others is 1200 fps which is substantially hotter than your 10.7 grains of Clays load.

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  2. 5 hours ago, Pb Mark said:

    Just take the picture of the modified loading gate from SB shown in the picture from Larsen and modify your stock loading gate to closely match.  Use blue Loctite when putting the little screw back in.  Take that $49 saved (now earned) and put it back in your pocket.  Just a thought.

     

    A basically non-workable idea.  For those thinking about buying one of the Boogie gates here is why it works.

     

    The stock gate, on the top in this photo, has a dish in it and the top of the gate touches the bottom of the side plate.  The green arrow shows where the stock gate touches the side plate.  On the Boogie gate, on the bottom in the photo, the cartridge guide is recessed all the way to the front of the side plate and is below the level of the side plate.  

     

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    This is shown in more detail by a photo of the front of the two gates.  The stock gate on top and the Boogie gate on the bottom.  The green arrow shows where the stock gate contacts the side plate.  The Boogie gate is well below the side plate.  The stock gate has to be pushed fully into the gun to load a cartridge.  The Boogie gate is already about the equivalent of 1/3 depressed.

     

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    The stock gate installed in the side plate.  In order to load a round it has to be pushed into the dish and the gate fully depressed into the gun before the round will slide into the carrier.

     

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    With the Boogie gate you can already see into the carrier before a round is even started.  Plus the spring steel in the Boogie gate is not nearly as stiff as the stock gate.  Just push a cartridge into the large depressed guide in the gate and it slides into the carrier.  This is not something you can go out into your garage and take a hammer to the old gate and produce satisfactory results.

     

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  3. Because for decades the rule has been only Winchester 97s or its clones are legal.

     

    "The only slide action shotgun allowed is the Model 1897 Winchester shotgun, whether original or replica."

     

    Even if legal I would never shoot my Burgess in anything resembling competition as the pistol grip is made from gutta percha.  It is kind of like stressing 150 year old bakelite.

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  4. Most of the time it is an easy fix.  Assuming the gate spring is not bent all you need to do is slide a punch or flat blade screwdriver down the breach face and push the tip of the spring down.  It will normally snap into place.

     

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  5. I have been to the Western Regional hosted by the Chorro Valley Regulators many times.  I was debating not going this year but when I heard it will be the last shoot at the range I booked a room and made plans to attend.  The range RV parking and other facitlities are first rate.  BUT it is not just the range and shooting that make this such a great event.  It is also the location.  It is literally just 5 minutes from Morro Bay and the temperatures are always right at 70 degrees.  It was 115 in Phoenix when I left for the shoot but the temps at Morro Bay ranged from 68 to 72 with clear skies.  The location is simply idyllic.  In a few weeks the range will be gone.

     

    Here is the clubhouse.

     

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    Some of the stages with some background scenary provided by the local hills.

     

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    Some more of the soon to be gone stages.

     

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    The Last Chance Saloon and the big tent where the prime rib dinner is served on Saturday night.  The dinner was always excellent and they used real plates and silverware.

     

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    Now for part two of the location - Morro Bay.

     

    Some of the docks.

     

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    A pair of Sea Lions sunning themselves on the rocks right next to the sidwalk.

     

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    Having a steak and lobster dinner and looking out the window at the Morro Bay rock.

     

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    I hope the Chorro Valley Regulators find a new range but I fear they will never find another location with the charm of Morro Bay.

     

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  6. 37 minutes ago, Cinch said:

    You have the wrong follower. The tongue on the carrier hangs in the hole in the center of the follower for the drop two.

     

    Find a 87 follower and go back to the original carrier. Then fit the hole in the follower to the tongue on the carrier so it just catches. Then practice how to stuff the shells and not force it farther down.

     

    A stiffer magazine spring helps. Put an empty shell in the top of your tube to compress the spring and make it stronger.

    Are you talking about a Chiappa or a Chinese 87?  What you are describing sounds like a Chinese 87.

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  7. There is no factory part these are gunsmith conversions.  I have one done by Johnny Meadows and it has a part welded on the inside.

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