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Posts posted by Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933
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Well poop. Went out to the range this morning to chrono some loads. Over the past 40 years I have had several chronos. Never shot or damaged any of them. This morning I fired one shot, OK. The next shot pieces went flying. It actually looks like the bullet hit the very top edge of the chrono and a piece went skating down the top and the larger piece angled down into the guts. According to the screen my velocity was somewhere between 37 fps and 11,682 fps. I am not sure if I have met the SASS minimum velocity or exceeded the maximum.
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There are more than five but they are scarcer than an original. In fact for several years when I was looking you could find originals for well under $2K.
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Call Ruger they have them and will generally mail you one. Or try one of the SASS smiths that does short stroke conversions. They have boxes of them.
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If they are new call Taylor's. If used or you want to try to fix it yourself the first thing to determine is what is binding. If the cylinder is empty and the gun placed on half-cock does the cylinder rotate OK? If so it is most likely either binding at the barrel end or the breech face. With brass in the cylinder is there any cylinder gap? If no then it is a fairly easy fix to take a facing tool and create some gap. If there is some cylinder gap then that means it is probably sticking on the breech face. That is more difficult to fix and require some additional investigation. If these are used are there burrs around the firing pin holes?
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Uberti use to make a few 66 and 73 muskets and also made 30" octagon barrelled 73s. About 25 years ago I too thought these were "cool" and told a friend that if he ever wanted to sell his 73 Musket to let me know. About 7 years later he called me and said he was having to retire from shooting and sold me the rifle. Well, it was not as cool as I thought it would be. It was HEAVY and extremely unwieldly especially if shooting though or around a prop. After shooting it in a few matches I gladly passed it on to the next guy that thought it was "cool." The few that I saw were all in .44-40. Maybe some .45s were produced but definitely no .357s.
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11 minutes ago, Barry Sloe said:
If you have an Ace Hardware store close - take one of the nipples to their bolt section. You can check the thread count with their wall mounted "tool" (multiple threaded pieces that are used to determine your particular thread count).
That is highly unlikely. Most nipple threads are weird combinations.
5 minutes ago, July Smith said:For my own education... Once the thread is determined how does one know if it is a Uberti or Pietta? The various online dealers sell replacement nipples by manufacture not thread size.
Go to Track of the Wolf. They list the thread sizes for various makers.
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25 minutes ago, July Smith said:
he could probably have it approved by your local MD for use at monthly matches.
This is what leads to at virtually every shoot above the club level someone offering the excuse "but gee it is legal where I shoot." Shoot legal equipment and avoid future disappointment.
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12 minutes ago, Lead Monger said:
You can buy coil springs for Rutgers in one pound increments. Why in the world would you put shims washers in there?
You are in Alaska. If you were going to a match tomorrow and needed a new spring would it arrive by tomorrow? How much would the spring and shipping cost? Washers are available pretty much everywhere and cheap. I know lots of people that shoot Federals. If they can't get any they use washers to beef up the spring rate a bit until they can get some more Federals. Main reason - convenience.
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Easily fixed.
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On the S&W website I clicked on the box for models with walnut stocks.
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Unfortunately "EMF Hartford" is a generic name EMF has used for guns from a variety of manufacturers. Look it over carefully and there should be proof marks and a marker's stamp on it somewhere. Maybe call EMF and see if they can help.
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I think the dealer lied. Here is a photo off the S&W website.
The aperture rear sight is not legal. The Picatinny rail is probably removable but there does not appear to be a dovetail on the barrel for a new sight. The front sight is a brass bead. Probably cost him a bit more money to get it SASS legal.
P.S. the large loop lever is typically something most SASS shooters do not want.
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If it is not a Pietta do you know what it is? Different manufacturers used different thread patterns.
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ACE. Do not worry about the "AN". Just go to ACE and find washers that fit over the strut and the OD is not wider than the gripframe.
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31 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:
The secret to BP shotgun shells is to have enough powder in them so that the hull seals well and you do not get any blow by on the outside of the hull. By eliminating blow by the hulls will not stick in the chambers.
A big plus one. APP is low powered and if you do not use enough you will get blowby in a shotshell. That is why I would not go below 30 grains of APP. I use pretty much the same load as Dave. Gun Club hulls are all over the trap ranges and are extruded hulls like the STS. Fire them once and toss to avoid toasty crimps.
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14 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:
One way to find out for sure. Springs are Cheap.
Especially if you are using Rugers. Coil springs are easy to shim.
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P.S. do not get wrapped around the axle over precise grain weights. APP is a very low order explosive and if you are shooting 28 grains or 32 grains you most likely will not be able to tell the difference. What you are primarily concerned with in a shotgun is stack height. That is you need a powder, wad, shot weight combination that gives good crimps. An old but still useful rule of thumb for BP and the subs is to use a volume (not weight!) of powder that equals your volume of shot. This is a so-called square load.
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2.2 cc is about 25 grains of APP. 17 grains of APP is a good .44 C&B revolver load. It might not even clear the barrel in a shotgun. APP has varied a LOT over the years. Baylor's chart is pretty old. I am not sure what iteration of the APP formula he was using. Having shot APP real BP and all the subs over the years I would go with at least 30 grains of APP. What grain size are you using? For CAS use stick with FFFG. FFG is too coarse for metallic handgun loads and meters poorly. As noted a set of Lee Dippers is not expensive and is useful for shotgun loads.
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30 minutes ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:
How do you know...
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Because you are a self-confessed non-greaser.
Marlin 27 Magazine Tube.
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The Marlin 27 mag tube is like a .22. It has an inner and outer tube. It is not easy to replace.