Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933
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Posts posted by Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933
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Your best bet is to put the good parts on Ebay and just buy a new Pietta steel frame. They are on sale frequently at places like Cabelas. By the time you buy a frame and assemble one from parts you will probably spend more than a new one will cost.
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Once the bullet feeding tubes are filled you can load the ammo much faster than loading the tubes. I have three magazines so they hold around 320 bullets. I fill them when goofing around sorta like filling primer tubes. Once everything is set to go it makes the actual loading process a lot nicer. I have an RCBS bullet feeder so what I have done is set the RCBS feeder up so I can fill the mini-bullet feeder tubes. I use the mini-feeder on my Dillon 1050 because the RCBS doesn't work well on it because on a 1050 the tool head moves up and down rather than the ram and kinks the flexible metal feeding tube. The RCBS feeder is attached to a Dillon 650.
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If you are looking for SASS guidelines have you tried the rule book?
Metal and paper targets of generous size are used. Reactive targets such as pepper poppers and falling plates are used when practical to enhance shooter feedback and spectator appeal. Targets are set at close to medium range. There are no absolute rules, but we suggest the following distances, by firearm, if using a target approximately 16" X 16":
Revolver – 7 to 10 yards Shotgun – 8 to 16 yards Rifle – 13 to 50 yards
That's all there is. Target size and distances are determined by the club.
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The registration booth closes at 3:00 pm on Tuesday. Drop Turquoise Bill a note (the sidematch coordinator) and you can exchange contact information.
turquoisebill@cableone.net
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OP the term "Zulu" shotgun just means a class of cheap, cobbled together single shot firearms made for the African trade. They were made from French, Belgium, British and other surplus military arms or cobbled together out of any cheap civilian guns that were avaiable. You will need a much more detailed description of what you have and PHOTOS to have any chance to find what you are looking for.
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I have a blue car. It needs a new transmission. Can anyone help?
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Numrich frequently just gets generic parts. You just need a spring for a SAA. Some springs do need a little fitting if they bump on the back of the hammer when it is cocked.
Either of these should work fine.
Or for a stock spring scroll down to #36. Although I can't imagine why anyone would want a stock spring when the aftermarket tuned springs are about the same price.
http://www.brownells.com/schematics/Uberti-/1873-Cattleman-S-A--sid325.aspx
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VTI, Taylors, EMF, Cimarron. Of just skip the factory springs and get a Lee or Wolff.
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Larson, there are parts for the lightning rifles. Eldon Penner sells them and as of my last conversation he is still making parts. I know for a fact that in addition to original Lighting rifles he makes parts for the AWA as I have purchased some from him. Before he retired from gunsmith work, and went into parts only, he was an excellent, and probably the best Lightning gunsmith in the business.
So if anyone needs parts, contact him. You can find his alais here in the web site, it is El Rod.
I haven't seen him for several years. The last time I talked to him he refused to just sell parts. Running "El Rod" here yields no results. Googling Eldon Penner does not show a website or address. So, for all practical purposes the parts are basically non-existent. If you have contact infomation it would be useful to print it.
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I spoke to them late last week. Yes!! Open for business
Good. The only American I have left is an old M-7 lightweight.
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Wow, that price list is from 2008. I wonder if they are even still in business? I haven't seen a new one on a dealer's shelf in a long time.
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Bought one a year or so ago in .45 Colt. Functions pretty smooth,has the nice wood. I just might have to shoot it this summer..............
You bought a Winchester by Miroku 66 a year ago? They only had a couple of engraved prototypes at the shot show a year ago. If you have a standard "production" model where did you get it?
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Some worked. Some did not. The early ones were marked "AWA International" and had functioning problems. The later ones were marked "AWA USA." Some of those ran fairlly well. There are no spare parts. I always tell people if you are going to shoot a Lightning it is going to become your second hobby. What's funny about Lightnings is they might cycle dummy rounds all day but as soon as you go to the range for some live fire they start to have problems. If you aren't a decent gun mechanic you might want to pass as sending them out to get worked on can be expensive and there are only one or two people that really know how to tune them.
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Hey Larson. I asked for Senior Classic Cowboy. If enough of us ask for that, will that be a recognized category? Ghost and I are long in the tooth, and I suspect we can scare up 4 or 10 others.
You'll have to ask the SASS front office what they are doing this year.
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All the distributors sell "competion" ready revolvers as well. Just helps to be clear what you are talking about when asking tech questions.
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Silngle shots aren't legal main match rifles either. Are you talking about a side match? Four guys standing in line for a side match ailn't the same as 400 guys waiting behind some one in the main match. In any event the 80's are long gone.
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The past couple of years you have to figure out the application form and check the appropriate boxes.
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Might be useful to specify whether you are talking about a rifle or a revolver. "1873" can be either.
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I do not encourage the use of non-SASS legal guns or equipment. It can lead to problems for shooters when they travel to a big match. Was at a Regional match once, lady shooter had a '93-'07 shotgun. Posse marshal told her she could not use that shotgun. She got upset, saying "I use it at home all the time, for three years now, why not here"? We showed here the rules, and she calmed down when I gave her my backup '97 to use.
In my opinion we do a severe disservice to shooters when we let hem get by with something that is not allowed at the State or above level matches.
+100%. I was at a very large match one time where they let a shooter use a muzzle loading rifle. Ten shots on the clock took a while. That shooter may have been having "fun" but for the other 289 people backed up in hour+ long delays on the other stages they were NOT having fun.
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Twelve inches out of a rest at two feet! Who'd a thunk it. At any rate you said you like the American Derringer. Americans do not have a rebounding hammer so one way to "select" the barrel is to look at the breech face when the barrels are open. If the firing pin is sticking out of the top hole the bottom barrel will fire first. If it is sticking out of the bottom hole the top barrel will fire first. After the first two shots it will continue to fire in the same order. (Unless you slip hammer or somthing else causes the hammer not to come fully back and the pins get out of sequence.) Another way is to look at the pivot in the hammer face. If you look carefully you can see what postion it is in and after a while you can tell what pin it is going to hit. One thing with American Derringers is that since they do not have rebounding hammers you have to make absolutely sure the hammer is placed on half-cock before closing the barrels with rounds loaded in them. Otherwise you could get a nice surprise.
Bottom firing pin protruding so the top barrel will be the next to fire.
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I know what stippling is. It is usually done on metal with a prick punch. I just wanted to make sure what the OP was talking about. The photo in number four was done by laser and either Drifter or Taz can do it.
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What do you mean by laser "stipling?" There are a couple of people that routinely show up at major matches to do laser engraving on wood. Drifter from (I believe) the Mid-West and Taz from New England attend many matches and both do great work. Taz is already parked at Ben Avery getting ready for Winter Range.
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Unless the target was the berm I doubt I could hit the target whether I shot the bottom or upper barrel first at 25 yards.
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Only on longer range shots. Close range it does not matter.
I have manned the derringer/pocket pistol side match at EOT for years and cannot recall anyone selecting the barrel. The target is only two feet away so the winner is determined by who can retrieve the gun off the table the fastest and who can then also manipulate the hammer the quickest. I like Smokestack's theory and he is experienced. But 99.99% of derringer shooters I see at side matches don't have the expertise for shooting a derringer where firing the lower barrel first would make any difference. The OP says he has never fired a derringer and knows nothing about them. I was more interested in why he perceives selecting a barrel to be relevant.
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You are in command of the mightiest research tool in the world. The Internet. Go on-line and start searching. Tom MIx was famous so there are a lot of resources on him. He died in a car crash right here in Arizona just outside of Florence. There is a road marker at the crash site.