Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933
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Posts posted by Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933
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Bascically right now there is Mec, Hornady, Dillon, Ponsness-Warren, and Spolar. Each one has its idiosyncracies and trying to list the pros and cons of each would take thousands of pages of comments. Not to mention what some people view as a "con" others view as a "pro." Mec is the least expensive and is well supported. In the past four years the prices on progressive machines has doubled or more. Machines I paid $999.00 for four years ago are now $1,999.00. I picked up a Spolar at Winter Range in 2019 for $1,900.00. They are now $4,500.00! Your best best is to go to YouTube and seach the brands you are intersted in. There are videos on all of them explaining what works and what does not and most have how to fix problems videos. If you buy a used machine make sure there are still parts available.
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Has anyone actually received primers at these prices? When no one locally has them anywhere near this price my suspicious nature kicks in.
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Proper English is "tis" or "twas".
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Here is one I sold a couple of years ago. Nickle plated .28 Root. FYI all of the guns shown are either originals or Palmettos. As far as I know Uberti never made any.
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Stage starting lines - Hyah or giddy-up usually works.
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I have never seen or heard of a Root copy made by Uberti. As far as I know the only Colt Root revolver reproduction was made by Palmetto Arms Company of Brescia, Italy.
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For those of you who have ever shot "The Seige at San Juan" this is a non-SASS sanctioned match that is supposed to replicate the old matches. It is being billed as "The Siege of Old". It is scheduled for 12 stages on June 21 & 22, 2025. If you have questions you can call San Juan, SASS #1776, at 970-417-6247.
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Old toothbrush. Cut off the end with the bristles.
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Back in the "good old days" banks were required to maintain a certain level of reserves. (For decades this was 25%.) Starting in 2020 the requirement was dropped to zero. I remember when you could get $1,000 and $500 bills. Now the largest is $100 and if you take out more than a few thousand it is not all that uncommon for a branch bank to not have that many hundreds on hand. There have been several times in the past couple of years I could only get $3,000 or $4,000 in hundreds and had to leave with a mess of $20s to round out my $5,000 withdrawal. Cash is unfortunately going out of style. There are many businesses that no longer accept cash. And no, businesses are NOT required to accept cash. Again in 2019 or 2020 the Federal Reserve issued a ruling that businesses could take electronic payment in lieu of cash. This is from a Q&A on their website:
Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?
There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise.
P.S. The State of Arizona, for example, has legislation pending requiring businesses to accept cash payments up to $100. It has not passed thr Arizona Senate.
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#3 is the lightest UNLESS #2 is the lightweight Pietta spring. Then it is probably the lightest. Generally you cannot go wrong with the Lee in #3.
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Take one each stainless steel mixing bowl. Dump in mixture. Toss is match. When white smoke cloud dissipates dump out shot.
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But us Henry shooters do not have to worry about that!
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It is not hard. Club matches are practice for State matches. State matches are practice for Regional mathces. Regional matches are practice for the Nationals and the Nationals are practice for the World. Repeat annually.
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"we shoot with each other" Auto pilot took me the wrong way.
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Misspelled Judah's name even though we shoot we each other at least twice a month! Here is a photo of the follower from that old thread.
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I know several people that shoot modified Chiappas but only one that uses the factory fast load. That is Judah MaCabe. I am surprised he has not responded. His experience was the same as Albinoehe. It was sticky and not smooth in operation until he polished the face of the follower so the fast load part would travel smoothly over it. After doing that he has been shooting it problem free for several years.
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9 minutes ago, Painted Mohawk SASS 77785 said:
I've been told that the Chiappa frame is built on the Win 10g frame so is a bigger opening & easier to load with the drop 2 mod - is that true ?
Yes. It is bigger and heavier than an 87.
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Wow those targets must really be out there. I can't even see them.
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The Spiller & Burr is a copy of the Whitney with a brass frame. It is a .36 and definitely does not shoot anything approaching a Dragoon size charge. It is a percussion revolver. Other than than it has no resemblance to the Ruger ROA. I had a pair and an original Whitney. On the brass frame model the area right behind the trigger guard was different than on the original Whitney. I have medium size hands and these were the most uncomfortable guns I have ever held. Traded them off before shooting them as that would only have made the pain worse and they were too uncomfortable to use as match revolvers. IF possible I would try and handle one before purchasing.
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The Marlin 336 in .44 mag was made from 1963 to 1967. Around 16,000 were produced. The first Marlin in stainless steel was 336M "Millennium" in 2000. So Frontier's buddy cannot have a 336 .44 mag if it is made from stainless steel. This thread is about the 336 not the 94 series.
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Lots of Bullseye data from the 1960s and 1970s. There is virtually no current loading manual that shows Bullseye loads for 12 ga. Here is a fairly long discussion from one of the shotgun loading sites. Hulls have changed, wads have changed and primers have changed since the 1960s and pressure measurements have gone from LUP (lead units of meassure since the copper used in CUP was to strong for shotguns) to strain gauges which are a lot more accurate and showed many older loads as overpressure.
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Good review by Nostrum. I have an old RCBS and two Mr. Bullet feeders. One of the Mr. Bullet feeders has been modified for .32 H&R. (Not as easy job!) None of the bullet feeders that use a spring tube from the feeder to the dropper and ball bearings in the dropper work with lead bullets and crayon lube. The lube scrapes off in the spring tube and gums up the ball bearings which have to move absolutely freely to work. Here is an old thread on the Dillon bullet feeder. Scroll down and look at the posts by Mogollon Monk. He is a LONG time Dillon employee and makes most of the user videos for Dillon. In one post he says no lubed bullets. In another he says you can use the .30 rifle version for .32 handgun. I drove over to Dillon to pick up a feeder just to play with it. My results are outlined below.
The .30 feeder will not work with the .32 H&R without considerable work and some machining. I would say that the vast, vast majority of SASS shooters could not make it work. I am at the point where if I buy something and it does not work and I had the fun of screwing with it for a week or so I do not care if it ultimately does not work as long as I had fun playing with it. After modifying the bullet plate (actually combining two plates into one) and doing some machining on the bullet dropper through a lot of trial and error I got the feeder to work with .32 H&R and it is now installed on my old Dillon RL1050.
The Dillon feeder has some similarities to the old RCBS bullet feeder. I bought one years ago and quickly found it would not work with lead/lubed bullets. It was also very finicky about what shaped bullets it would feed. Nose shape and whether the bullet was flat based or bevel based made huge differences in reliability. Here is the old RCBS collator plate.
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Dillon has made one HUGE improvement. It is the bullet "rejector" Nostrum mentions. The "rejector" is a section of the collator that moves up and down vertically so you can adjust for bullet nose and base shape. In the photo below is what is left of a Dillon collator ring after I cut 3/8" off the OD of the ring to use on top of another ring to size the collator for the shorter .32 pistol bullets. The purple arrow is pointing to a flat based bullet sitting on the ledge created by the non-moving center portion of the collator. The outer ring rotates around it. The improved part is the section of the inner ring that moves up and down to adjust for nose and base shape. Green arrow. Once the bullets are past this section they drop down a chute that would be attached to the area shown by the red arrow.
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1 hour ago, Vail Vigilante said:
So how many variations of 32 length cartridge have you tried this with?
I am only using H&R Mag brass. I have loaded from 1.340" to 1.400".
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Yeah Spolar was a vendor at several Winter Range's. Here is Cole the owner/operator of Spolar. Generally at the end of the match he would sell whatever demos he had with him. The year of this photo one person bought the press, one bought the table and one bought the hydraulics. Saved Cole a lot of packing for the trip home.