H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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As others have pointed out, one of the best things about a clean match, usually the big ones, is that you get a cool pin for shooting the match clean.
The first one I got was the End of the Trail one. That was shot with my AWA Lightning, my father's 3rd Generation SAA with a 4.75" barrel and a 5.5" Armi San Marco clone. All were .45 Colt. The shotgun was a 30" 97.
The second one the left hand Hellfire one. While the rifle, first pistol and shotgun were the same, the second pistol was, my gold plated Colt Ft. Desmoine Restoration commemorative.
The Mimi Match Hellfire has a story behind it as well. Among other things they do a 3 stage "mini warm match" before the main event. I shot that clean, but there was no recognition for doing so. So, I offered to donate some mini match pins so that anyone who shoots it clean going forward gets a pin. This was with the proviso that anyone who shot it clean the year before (like me) got to claim a pin as well. Irritatingly, THAT year, I had one miss in the mini match.
But, that same year, I got my second Hellfire clean match pin. That one was based on "Westerns through the decaded." Each stage was based on a movie from a different wester from a specific decade. So.... I used different guns on every stage, based on guns that appeared in that stage. One stage even had me using my Spencer! Slow as a snail, and I think I came in dead last, but I shot it clean.
And I had fun doing so.
My goal is always to shoot a clean match, irregardless of any recognition I may or may not get.-
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1 hour ago, watab kid said:
that is one really nice revolver and thats a really nice holster - shame the two arent together , not suggesting anything other than both owners seeking out the missing bits to put history back together ,
I wonder if they made a left handed version of the holster?
So should I pair it with this at a shoot?
It came with mother of pearl grips. But we all know what a certain someone said about pearl grips, so I got these mammoth ivory ones for it.
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19 hours ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:
Real engraving, not laser. And the laser-engraved Pattons they came out with later don't have the lanyard ring. Nice find!
Yeah, I've seen those laser engraved ones. Not only do they look cheap, they are not C&R and are not accurate to the original like these were.
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Cool holster!
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2 hours ago, Kid Rich said:
He's from MA they're not allowed to post pics.
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They haven't outlawed THAT yet!
I am actually glad Uberti did this and not Colt. If it had been Colt, it would be stupid expensive.
I also have a theory about this pistol; it may be at least partially responsible for the way the ATF stopped giving brand new Colt commemorative pistols C&R status right out of the box. That stopped happening in the late 80's. This pistol came out in 1987, and was made by Uberti. Granted, it is very nice, but I think they "realized" that this could be used as a precedent for anybody and his brother creating new C&R's just by fancying them up a bit. So, they stopped doing it for everyone, including Colt. This was the only Uberti commemorative to get C&R status according to the list. Things less than 50 years old CAN still get on the list, but we don't see the commemoratives getting it automatically anymore. (Not that Colt makes as many commemoratives anymore anyway. I still can't believe there wasn't a Ronald Reagan 1911 commemorative in 2011.)
Yes, I WILL shoot it at a match eventually.
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I have wanted one of these ever since they first came out in 1987. I've seen a few over the years, but for a way over inflated price.
Well, I finally found one for a reasonable price! I have to say that they look mighty fine. Fully engraved in a manner very similar to the original, and yes, real silver plating. But not real ivory grips.
Glad to have finally found one.-
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I enjoy occasionally posting videos myself shooting. The most common reason I do so is to showcase a particular gun being used. Occasionally, someone has commented on "you moved your foot illegally" which led to a discussion as to if I did or not, but it doesn't bother me. Oddly, no one has ever commented to the effect of "if you did this" or "if you didn't do that" your times would improve, even though I am sure that with a slow shooter like me, there are plenty of examples.
Rather, even when the video I post is an absolute train wreck, I would hope that people can see that I am having lotsa FUN at the time. I think that's the most important thing. And on those occasions when someone mentions something that can or should be different for whatever reason, I always welcome the comment, as I know it is meant to be helpful.
I also occasionally am surprised by what I see. Like how I think I did slightly better with a pre-83 94 than I did with a pre-safety Rossi 92.
Oh well.-
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4 hours ago, El Sobrante Kid said:
One banana, two banana, three banana, four, ...
Four bananas make a bunch there isn't any more.
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4 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:
Maybe but not as much as I complain about the price of NANNA SPLITS🍨
Tra la la
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If you know, you know.-
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3 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:
Why is it that for years TB has been used with no issues posted. Now we hear of issues ? Humans😉
Actually, people have been complaining about TB for as long as I can remember. Some folks, like me, love the stuff and say so. Others have a very negative view of it for various reasons, and have said so. It seems to be a love it or hate it kind of powder.
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12 hours ago, watab kid said:
I have to ask, is this the new Trail Boss or the old?
I gotta ask, what new Trail Boss?
I sent Hodgdon an e-mail asking about, mentioning how people are seeing it Australia.
I got a response saying that it's an "active SKU" but that they have not been able to source any and hope to get it back on the market soon.I am sad to say that I think it's been discontinued, but they don't wanna admit it.
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I've never had problems with it. I always measure every charge. If it's giving you problems, I'll gladly take it off your hands.
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19 hours ago, Rip Snorter said:
John Roberts, manning up would be useful.
I have long felt that the so called 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court is not.
It's really a 5-3-1. Five Conservatives, three Liberals and one squishy Moderate that you have no idea where he's going to go. He's been leaning more right than left of late, but that's only since President Trump replaced the other Moderates with real Conservatives in his first term. I was "afraid" that if one of the Conservatives were to leave the court during the Biden years, we'd be at 4-4-1, and the squishy one would move back to the left again.
There is a good chance that President Trump will get to make 1 or 2 more picks in his new term, but the odds are that it will be replacing leaving Conservatives with new ones, leading to no real change on the Supremes. The chances of one of the three Liberals leaving in the next four years are slim.-
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Perhaps this is wishful thinking but...
Article IV Section 1 of the Constitution reads....
"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."
Seems to me that reciprocity already exists. Or at least it should. We need the Supreme Court to weigh in on this. The lack of reciprocity is unconstitutional.-
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4 hours ago, Shooter Bob Jr. said:
and 38 SW long.
What is 38 SW long?
I've never heard that designation before.-
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9 hours ago, Rev Willy Dunkum, SASS # 61027 said:
I started many years ago with a Marlin Cowboy 44 mag and a pair of Vaquero 44 mag exclusively all loaded with full bore BP. I added a couple more Vaquero Bisley 44 mag pistols. When my Marlin started giving me fits (soon to be remedied) I bought Sgt Eli's 'old' 73 in 44 special and started shooting 44 specials through everything.
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This makes me think of the whole running .44 Specials in a .44 Magnum gun. With a revolver, of course, it's no problem. My first SASS rifle was a Rossi 92 in .44 Magnum. I figured I would run Specials in it. I didn't use for very long before I got a 73 in .32-20, and then finally started obtaining .45's.
But, I still like to take out the Rossi out for old time's sake every now and again. The only problem was, it had a tendency to stove pipe new rounds on their way to the chamber. When I got a real 92 that someone had rebarreled to .44 Magnum, it had the same problem. Switched to Magnums downloaded to .44 Special levels, and I never had a problem again. That's why I don't run Specials in my Magnum rifles.
More recently, I acquired a pre-83 Winchester 94 in .44 Magnum, just cuz I wanted to have one. To be honest, (and I am a bottom tier shooter) I found it to be pleasant to shoot, and it worked just fine at the match I took it too just to try it. Comparing it to the Rossi, I did not find that it hindered me in any way. I know 94's have a bad rep for out game, but well, this one worked. Maybe I was lucky.Here's me running my Rossi 92. (Pistols are an Uberti Cattleman and an original Great Western in the same caliber. We won't speak of the shotgun...)
Here's me running the 94.
As you saw, not appreciable difference between the 92 and the 94 for me. In fact, I think I did better with the 94. Go figure.
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13 hours ago, Nickle said:
I didn't know u could use 32wcf in cowboy action. There are a few originals kicking around Alberta. The smaller caliber originals seem to have survived better than the 44 or 38wcf.
Thanks for sharing the pictures and story.
You are most welcome.
Yeah, i seem to see more .32-20 73's and 92's, and even Marlins and Colt Lightnings on the used market than I do the larger calibers, and usually for a lot less money.
It's perfectly legal, caliberwise. To quote the Handbook...
Revolver Calibers:Must be centerfire cartridges of at least .32 caliber and no larger than .45 caliber
Although the .32 caliber revolvers and .36 caliber cap and ball revolvers are legal, they may not be powerful enough to handle all reactive targets.Rifle Calibers:
Must be centerfire of at least .32 caliber and not larger than .45 caliber.
The only allowed exceptions are the .25-20 and .56-50.
.32-20 is listed in both sections in the examples but not limited too lists.
So, according to the rules, even .32 S&W or .32 Short Colt would be SASS legal. Good luck finding guns chambered for them though! I do have a vintage 1860 that was converted to the former, and a vintage Marlin in the latter. Modern Marlins can be found in .32 H&R Magnum, which is just an elongated .32 S&W Long, but I don't know if they shorter cartridge will work in it. Cimarron also makes a scaled down Colt Clone with dual .32-30/.32 H&R that you could use the S&W rounds in.
Historically, the only revolver chambered for .32-20 was the Colt, and they are a little harder to find. S&W and as far as I know, did not offer it. Today, you can get Colts, clones, and Rugers. Not sure of what else. I remember someone, I think it was Taylor's, advertising a 58 Remington converted to it many years ago, but I never saw one.
.32-20 is a very addictive caliber...
I am surprised to learn that you can get them in Canada. I thought .32 caliber was outlawed up there. Can you elaborate?-
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1 minute ago, Three Foot Johnson said:
a pair of 8 3/8" Interarms Virginian Dragoons
Interesting pistols! I've got one myself with adjustable sights. Do yours have adjustables or are the the fixed site version?
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My favorite caliber is .45 Colt. I have more guns in that caliber than any other.
But oddly, I don't have a 73 in that caliber.My first 73, a real Winchester is a .32-20, and for a short while it was my primary main match rifle. Here it is paired with a Colt Bisley
Fun story about this rifle. More than a few years ago, I was at the Michigan state championship shoot, and this was the rifle I used. As I was leaving the parking lot to go to the shooting area, a pard looked at my gun cart and ask me if that was a real Winchester. When I said it was, he said he'd never seen one before, only replicas, and asked if he could hold it. Then he asked if he could work the action. When I said sure, he tried, but he could not lever the lever. He checked to make sure the lever lock was not locked, and when he saw that it wasn't, he said he thought something was wrong. With some concern, I took the gun and worked the action no problem. Long story short, he was so used to slicked up short stroked Uberti 73's, that he could not work the "heavy" action of an unmodified Winchester!
This rifle, and later a few pistols, started my love affair with the .32-20 cartridge. Since this rifle I have acquired a Winchester 92, a Colt Lightning, a Marlin 1888 (The top eject Marlin!) and a Uberti 66. It is likely I will obtain other rifles in this caliber as time goes by. The only reason I don't shoot it more often is that, like all bottlenecks, it takes a little more effort to reload. Gotta lube them cases, y'know. I have an antique 1st and a 3rd gen SAA, and in addition to the pictured Bisley, another one that is nickeled.My second 73 is 16.5" Uberti that I kinda sorta customized. It's a .44-40
I really wanted a 73 Mare's Leg, but nobody makes one. So, I just chopped the stock on this one. Overall length is over 26", and the barrel is still 16+ so no NFA 34 problems. I know Mare's Legs are not SASS Legal for some reason, but they are fun to shoot!
I also have an uncut buttstock in case I ever have a need to actually use it as a rifle.
As far as .45 Colt goes.... Well, I've got more pistols than I can count off the top of my head. At least 20 or so. Mostly Colts/Clones, but a few other things as well. Replica cap and ball Colts and Remingtons that have been cartridge converted, replica S&W Schofield and American, a replica Remington 75, a converted replica Rogers and Spencer, and I think that's it. For rifles in .45, I have an AWA Lightning, an Armi San Marco 92, an Uberti 66 (Which I guess is "close" to being a 73) and a Uberti Burgess. Why don't I have a 73 in this caliber? Well, partly because if I get a hankrin' t'shoot a 73, I can pull out the real Winchester. And partly because I've become a Lightning guy, so I don't see the need to get one. But that being said, if I came across a used Uberti in .45 for a really good price, I might jump on one.-
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very very nice.
For some reason, I think ivory looks "better" with silver colored guns than blue ones.-
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Just wondering how popular .44 Magnum is in our game.
I don't see it all that often, and while I do have a couple of batteries in the caliber, I don't use it very often. Now, granted, I don't, and I doubt that anyone does, use "full power" loads in the is caliber. My own load is no more powerful than my .45 Colt loads, for example. And those are no where near the maximum end of the scale, But for me, the caliber "secondary" one, and I only trot it out when I have a ken to use the specific guns I have chambered for it. Which I admit is once a year at best.
That being said, how many people actually use the caliber, either as a primary or secondary cartridge, and what guns do you use?
I have a Rossi 92, a rebarreled Winchester 92, a pre 83 Winchester 94, an original Great Western, a Uberti Cattleman, a Virginian Dragoon and a Chiappa Mare's leg.
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The 87 is a great gun.
I have an original Winchester, and a Chiappa "Terminator" one. I also got a standard stock for the second one, giving me an 18.5" barrel one in standard configuration. My Winchester has 30" barrels.
The Chiappa a great out of the box, but I did feel that the trigger return spring was bit too heavy, so I replaced it with a lighter one. That's the only mod I have made. I am not sure who makes the Cimarron, so I won't hazard a guess.
Once you learn how to use it, the 87 is a lot of fun to shoot.-
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Ah.... Pics....
From top to bottom...
Petta .45.
Uberti .45
Remington .38Uberti .38
(Uberti Remington 75 .45)
Uberti .38.-
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I have three 58's. Two Uberti's that I converted with Kirst cylinders and a real Remington with a factory conversion. All three of them had the same timing issues that I shall now describe. When you cock a single action revolver, it should rotate 1 chamber. All three of these pistols had a tendency to rotate 1 and half chambers, mostly when you cock it really fast.. Since it happened with both reproductions and an original, I tend to think that it is a design flaw. I asked the gunsmith who fixed the timing issues, and he confirmed that this is a common problem and that it IS a design flaw, but he did know how to fix it. These are all .38's
I do have a 4th 58, this one is also a Uberti, and it came with both a cap and ball and a Holland style conversion cylinder from the factory. It's actually a commemorative issue one. It does not have timing issues and I have a feeling it was tuned by someone to work correctly. This one is .44/.45
And a 5th one, also a .44/45 with a Kirst cylinder. This one is a Pietta. No timing issues here either.-
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In Search Of Cleanliness...
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That EOT was my first clean match ever. I tell you, on the last stage, I REALLY felt the pressure. I think I shot that stage slower than any one I ever have..