H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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1 hour ago, Texita Draw SASS#77940 said:
What’s the point?
That once you get to those categories, you are old.-
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90+ Nonagenarian
100+ Centenarian
110+ Eleventies.
120+ Twelventies130+ Oldsters.
Not very creative perhaps, but it get's the point across.
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I am not 100% sure, but I believe the Cimarrons are made by Chiappa. In either case, they don't have a stupid safety. I have a Chiappa takedown
'86 that is a very fine gun. I worked "okay" out of the box, but I felt that the hammer spring was way to heavy, and that it could use some smoothing out, so I had an action job done. I do not regret doing so.
Especially since I am doing this to it...
After the first of the year when the tax goes to zero, I am considering shortening the barrel to the same length as the takedown lever. That'll make it an SBR, but hopefully soon after that the One Big Beautiful Lawsuit will deregulate SBR's. Why not just wait for that? We'll, it'll be cool to have the SBR paperwork, especially once it's obsolete. (Weird, I know.)
By the way, the two cartridges are from right to left, a .45-70 and what I call a .45-45; a 45-70 cut back to the same length as a .45 Colt. I came up with the idea for use as a plinker round in single shot rifles. To my surprise, it kinda works in this thing. -
10 hours ago, Dapper Dave said:
Is that weird pepperbox actually useable?
More or less.
Created by Happy Trails.
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6 minutes ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:
I own several Colts and I believe the new 3rd gen Colts are as good or better then any Colt that Colt has ever made .
Just Sayin Rooster
This one was made in 1992 according to the serial number lookup on Colt's website. It's still got the solid cylinder bushing, but as I have discussed before, it is in excellent condition no matter how you slice it.
After seeing your post, I compared it to my other 3rd Gen Colt that was made in 2005. While it's finish is not as nice as this one, I would have to say that the mechanics are ever so slightly better. But it's such a subtle difference that if your post had not been read, I might have never compared them. On the other hand, my Dad's 3rd gen, made in 1977 is an exceedingly excellent gun. But he did have it tuned when he first bought it new. Of course, both of my Sheriffs and the Buntline are 3rds, and they are all excellent guns.
Anyway... I know that earlier 3rd Gens often get unfavorable comparisons to 2nd Gen guns, but to be honest, I have found that all three generations are well made guns, and I have not seen a dip in quality in the 3rds that I own. They are noticeably superior to the Italian guns in various ways, for example.
To be honest, the "worst" Colt I ever had was my NRA Centennial, which is a 2nd Generation gun. It's action was so sandpaper like that I took it back to Colt for an action job. Now, it's great. But maybe that was a quirk, because when I recently found another one of those NRA Colts, it was quite fine as is.
That does not mean that there have not been ups and downs over the years, I suppose. Too many people have had much more experience than I have with more guns than I have, so who can say.-
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3 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:
Is that the one they wanted 2,999 for?
Well, I can not lie.
Yes. Most expensive gun I've ever obtained.
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I would wear my suit to court. If I was on the jury, I'd see how the other jurors were dressed, and if I was the only one in a suit, I'd dress more casually for day 2+
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Well, I have this...
A fairly run of the mill, S&W New Model 3 target in .38-44. But, what make it historic is that, according to the S&W Letter, it was sold to one Arthur Corbin Gould of Boston, a national pistol champion. The was even an article about him in the American Rifleman once.
Didn't know any of this when I bought it. I just thought it was a cool gun.-
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I used to get a lot of catalogs that had a lot shooting related things in them. One such catalog, but I do not remember whose, featured lot of line art black white drawings in it, often of a British looking officer, showcasing some of the items. It did also have some photos.
Anyway, over 20 years ago, one of those catalogs had some very nice, and surprisingly inexpensive, pistol cases in it. They were custom configured for things like the SAA, 1911, Luger, Broomhandle Mauser and others. They looked like this closed...
They are very well made, and can serve as a storage case, a presentation case, and even a transport case.
From the inside, they look like this...
Anyway, I really like this case, and I want to get some more like it. But for the life of me, I can't remember who made it! Does this look familiar to anyone, and if so, do you know where ones like it can be obtained? It's a nice simple one. While I do plan to get some fancy custom cases for some of my guns, I have a couple of others that I'd like to have a plain case like this one for a couple of pistols that I don't have the original box for.-
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Rooster made a good point. Using some good gunsmith screwdrivers, make sure all of your screws are screwed in all the way. Over time, they can loosen, and I can tell you that this can lead to problems that go away once they are tightened again.
That said, if you still have these problems after tightening, (and don't over tighten) then yeah, go to the gunsmith,-
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2 hours ago, watab kid said:
beautiful piece , not sure on those grip scales but they sure look fine on that revolver
The tag in the shop said they were pearl. I took one look at them and said to the clerk, those ain't pearl.
I did not quote George C. Scott.
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You never know what you will find when you go into your Local Gun Store. Today, I stopped by Four Seasons in Woburn, Massachusetts. Most folks from New England will have heard of it. They usually have an eclectic mix of stuff with prices ranging from bargains to expensive. I've picked up more than a few things there over the decades, and it's a nice little shop.
Well, anyway, today, I swung by there on a whim as I have not been there for a long time. And I found something there that I never expected to find, especially since it's here in Massachusetts.
This is an early 3rd Generation (As in solid cylinder bushing) Colt in .44-40 with what sure looks like real ivory grips to me. The bluing is deep dark and shiny, and the case hardening is much better than the picture makes it look to be. The action is crisp and "Clicky" with a very nice trigger. I don't think the thing has ever been fired. When I told my mother about it, she told me to go back and buy it, and that she'd pay for it! So, I did.
I've always been a .45 Colt guy, but I have guns I enjoy shooting in .32-20 and .44-40. (And a few other calibers as well.) But I have a feeling that I very well might be shooting .44-40 more often in the near future.
I feel like I got something good. I'll be lettering it ASAP to determine just what those grips are.-
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Top Breaks...
Those pointed to the right are real. Pointed left are reproductions.And some Colt style conversions.
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There is of course one other option to consider....
An original Winchester. In addition to my Chiappa, I also have a real Winchester. I've got one made in 1888 with a 30" barrel, what looks like a modified choke, but I have never measured it.
Got it for $500 in 2011, and at the time, it had some "issues." It would not feed from the magazine, and there was something odd about the trigger. I sent it to Coyote Cap, who fixed all up like new, and lengthened the chamber and forcing cone to allow for 2.75" shells. It's still a black powder only gun, but is a very nice shooter.
Odds are you'll have to have some work done to an original, but it is an option to consider, and you might wind up getting everything for relatively short money, even with the work needed to be done. -
2 hours ago, Garrison Joe, SASS #60708 said:
Not true. As I have posted here several times, the definitive reference to date and define an Iver Johnson pistol is the book by W E Goforth, Has a pretty complete serial number set in it.
Ah, that is good to know! Perhaps a more accurate statement is, "No one who has the records is offering a "factory letter" for these guns."
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Well, Pershing had a point about not taking Berlin being a mistake. If we had, and if Germany had been truly DEFEATED, maybe WWII could have been avoided.
That being said, once the armistice was signed, it was very foolish of him to not let up.-
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3 hours ago, Rooster Ron Wayne said:
How about Shane .
Hmm... Must use pistols with no front sights?
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I may have just thought of a way this could actually work...
At a monthly match, just let the people attending know that these optional categories are open to anyone who wants to try them. Maybe someone will shoot Josey Wales. Maybe somebody else will try one of the others. Maybe most will shoot it regular cowboy. No need to try to build a match around any one of them. Just a way to have fun and allow for something different. The match director would just have to say what is being allowed and what it's rules are.
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As stated above, Chiappa. They are expensive, but you get what you pay for. In other words, they work well, right out of the box, and don't require any special tuning to get the to run, unless you want to.
Off the top of my head, the Chiappa comes in 3 basic variations, and there are some variations within each type.1. "Terminator" style. 18.5" no choke with a pistol grip stock. A regular shoulder stock will fit it.
2. Short barrel version 20" no choke.
3. Long barrel version. 26" barrel with screw in chokes.
I WISH the made it with a 30" barrel with a full choke, but they don't. (I loathe screw in chokes.) But I am weird.
I am not personally familiar with any of the other reproductions out there, so others will have to chime in.
It is worth repeating that you need to run the lever with authority, and that there is something of a learning curve. A common modification is something called a "drop 2" mod. I have not had it done to mine because (at least some of them) do away with the ability to fully load the magazine. I have found that even unmodified you can load 2 at a time. Perhaps not as easily as a modified one, but it can be done.
As far as shell length goes, while the modern replicas do have 2-3/4" chambers, it is my understanding that the replicas made no other modifications to the design, which was built for 2-1/2" shells. I had a friend who had a replica, (I don't recall which one, but this was a long time ago, so probably a Norinco) and he could not get it to work properly with the longer shells. He switched to the shorter ones, and it never bothered him again.
Me, I run, all brass 2.5" shells, smokeless and black powder, Magtech and RMC, and it works just fine.
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Take the grips off. If it has a leaf spring it's black powder only. If it's a coil spring, safe for smokeless.
Beyond that, I can tell you that this is a fairly well made pistol that is pleasant to shoot. I once won a pocket pistol side match with one.
But beyond that, I don't know any other specifics. No one seems to have any of the factory records, and I could not find anything but general info when I was researching my collection.
The Wiki Page, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iver_Johnson, does have data that'll let you get a rough time period as to when it was made.-
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1 hour ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:
Yancy Derringer match. Everything shot with - - well, you know.
Hmmm...
A whole buncha reloads, or multiple derringers staged around?
Actually, this could also be called Brady Hawks. At least 1 pistol must be a derringer, reloaded as needed. Loaded with 2. Reload 2. Reload 1, but load it so it's in the second barrel to get a 5 second bonus for pulling "half a bluff." -
32 minutes ago, Leroy Luck said:
A counter to your “all shotgun” category is Alan Bourdillon Traherne (AKA Mississippi from El Dorado).
Yeah, I thought of him. But then one of the shotguns would have to be an NFA '34 item.
But seriously...
For the "pistols" a pair of 87's or 97's, with the magazines loaded at the loading table.
For the "Shotgun" a SxS wielded in the normal manner
For the "Rifle" a second SxS or a Single Shot shotgun.
Maybe... I dunno....
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The following should not be taken too seriously!
Okay, we all know what Josey Wales is. Basically, it's an all pistol shoot. But what are some other "name it after a famous character/actor style" shoots that could be done?
Josey Wales: All pistols
Lucas McCain: All rifles
Doc Holiday: All Shotgun
Josh Randall: At least 1 gun must be a Mare's Leg type
Wyatt Earp: At least 1 pistol must be a Buntline Special
Barney Fife: Pistols must be loaded on the clockMarty Robbins: Pistols must be "big." (Open to interpretation!)
Matthew Quigley: Rifle and shotgun must be single shot. He did know how to use a pistol so keeping with the movie, cap and ball or conversions.
And those are the only things I could think of. For each one, there had to be some sort of a "gimmick" to the style beyond simple gun choice. I mean, "John Wayne" where you say "Big Loop 92 and a pair of SAA's" is nothing special. You see that all the time.-
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43 minutes ago, irish ike, SASS #43615 said:
We shoot "real" JW. 4 pistols, no shotgun, and single shot big bore rifle. Rifle target is at 30 yards. 2 categories, smokeless and BP.
That sounds like fun.
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Ivory grips are cool.