H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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4 minutes ago, Alpo said:
Flammable and inflammable both mean the same thing. They easily burn.
I wonder if they are like regardless and irregardless? One of them was correct and people used the other, incorrect, term so often that it became acceptable and correct?
If I recall correctly, flammable and inflammable have separate derivations. Inflammable has it's roots in the word inflame, meaning to set on fire, so inflammable means capable of being inflamed. It's also the older word.
Flammable come from flame, which means fire. Which means flammable means capable of being set on fire.
Technically inflammable and flammable therefore have a slightly different meaning, but it's such a subtle difference that it's not worth worrying about.
Although, I have also read that flammable came about by people dropping the the in off of flammable to create a word that meant the opposite in inflammable, just as vulnerable and invulnerable have opposite meanings, but it didn't work.
English is a fascinatingly weird language.
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Simple question, is there a way to allow a Winchester 92 to reliably run shorter shells?
What I mean is pretty straightforward A .44 Magnum 92 can at least supposedly run .44 Specials, but in my experience, it is an iffy proposition. (240 grainers with a slightly longer overall length work fine, but 200 grain bullet cartridges, with a slightly shorter OAL tend to stovepipe) I'd assume trying to run .44 Russians will not work at all.
My brother's Rossi 92 in .357 Magnum would usually run .38 Specials okay, but had problems with .38 Long Colt jamming the gun and .38 Short Colt feeding 2 rounds at once.
I'd assume one in .45 Colt would have similar problems with .45 S&W or .45 Cowboy Special. To say nothing of one chambered for .454 Casull.
Would any theoretical fix make the longer cartridges no longer fit? Or can it be done at all?
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6 hours ago, Father Kit Cool Gun Garth said:
Silencer - More silence
As in
Quieter - More quiet
Ah, but quiet and quieter are adjectives. Silence is a verb, and silencer is a noun. So it doesn't work.
Kinda like how the palindrome of Bolton woulda been Notlob.
Hmmm... Kinda shoulda been on the list.
Coulda should've been as well.Interesting... Coulda, woulda and shoulda did not come out as misspelled words, but kinda sorta did.
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The following is an attempt at humor.What is an “irrational” word? Some would say it is word that is not standard in its derivation. Or that perhaps it is a word the means something different from what people think it does, or one that has changed its meaning over time. Or perhaps it is a word that just doesn’t “make sense” for some odd reason. There is truth to all of those definitions, but that’s not what I am talking about.Consider the following words…Ain’tAlrightDunnoGonnaIrregardlessSilencerTranspire (When used to mean to take place, not to leak out)These are words that, even though you hear them a lot, and everyone knows what they mean, the so called “grammar Nazis” have apoplectic fits of rage when they hear them being used. They will say they are the wrong word, are not a word, (and I’ve never understood THAT argument) or that there is a “better” word to use.In other words, they have an “irrational” hatred of these specific words.There may be more, but I think you get my point; these are perfectly cromulent words that embiggen the mind.Have a nice day.
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12 hours ago, Renegade Roper said:
After the 1st day of the main match VixN/Drifter sponsored an iron man stage and provided ALL of the guns, ammo and axes! Yes axes! You shot 10 or so different guns at different spots and had to throw 2 axes.
What were the guns used?
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8 minutes ago, High Spade Mikey Wilson said:
My load is 2.3 gr of Trailboss (.5 cc Lee dipper) under a 100 gr cast flat point bullet sized at .313. It is a very accurate load for me in both my Taylor 1873 pistols, and my Browning 53 & Uberti 73 rifles.
I suppose I should mention that I use 3.0 grains of Trailboss to push a 100 grain .313" bullet. I works remarkably well in a First Generation Colt, a 3rd Generation Colt, a pair of 1st Gen Colt Bisleys, a Winchester 73, 92, Colt Lightning, and I am gonna assume, an 1888 Marlin I have not fired yet.
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What are Es and Sd? What kind of a firearm is 963?
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I don't get the threading for a silencer, but let that go.
Putting it in 9mm is sorta meh in my book. Now, if it was in .45 ACP, I'd preorder one. I'd love to have some main match guns in that caliber. -
If the gun was in .45-70, I'd say you could used "Trapdoor Safe" loads, but that's not what you have.
Given that the barrel started as a .32-40 and was bored out to .38-55, I'd be very hesitant to use even low powered smokeless. I *suppose* you could see what the lowest pressure .45-70 Trapdoor loads are, and then see what the ranges are for the .38-55, and if they are comparable and take it from there, but I dunno.
The following is MADE UPLoad 1 for .45-70 for a Trapdoor safe load is oh so many grains of power x with certain bullet weight. It creates a pressure of 5000 whatever.
Load 1 for .38-55 uses so many grains of powder y with a different bullet weight. It creates a pressure of 4900 whatever. This is possibly a safe load.
BUT, I am just not sure due to how the barrel was not made in this caliber. I'd stick to black powder in this particular gun. -
Not sure why it's threaded for a silencer, but, meh. Now if it was in .45 ACP, I'd consider putting down a downpayment.
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On 5/25/2024 at 11:03 AM, Marauder SASS #13056 said:
It was on a Thursday, as I recall....
I thought it was at night on a Tuesday.
Someone drew a third Jack while playing fizzbin, and thus got a shronk leading to the gun being disqualified.-
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8 hours ago, Fretless said:
Also, you can't simultaneously twirl and cock a slide action rifle.
Yeah, but, while I do have three "large loop" style lever guns, I can tell you, it doesn't work. Tried it, with snap caps, and as the gun is upside down, the cartridge falls out and rolls across the floor.
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9 hours ago, The Verdigris Kid said:
There was an episode of "The Rifleman" where a guy had invented a new rifle that he thought was better than the Winchester Lucus used. He challenged Lucus to a duel to try to prove it. From what I remember the rifle in question looked like a Lightning.
Just found it. Season 4 Episode 18 "Sporting Chance."
There is also one seen hanging in the window of the gunsmith's shop in a couple of episodes of the same show.
That being said, it does not seem to have gotten a lot of use in other things...
https://imfdb.org/wiki/Colt_Lightning_Carbine-
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First, the barrel may have been rechambered and had it's bore enlarged. Be sure to check.
As far as how a Winchester barrel got onto a Remington action; anything is possible. The Rolling Block seems to have had a rather convoluted history back in the day.
With the help of writing to Dope Bag in American Rifleman, and some other research, I have a couple of Rolling Block that seem to have rather convoluted history.
One of them started out as a muzzle loading rifle made by Remington during the American Civil War. Sometime after the War, the barrel was removed and put on a Rolling Block Action by Remington. It somehow made its way to Belgium where it was eventually rebarreled to become a 12 Gauge shotgun.
My other one started out as a rifle in caliber unknown, but is now a .45-70. I say caliber unknown because while it has clearly been there for a long, long time, it is possible that the barrel is no original, and there are NO markings on the barrel itself, just a very faint one on the upper and lower tang under the stock.
Apparently, Rolling Blocks, and not all of them were actually made by Remington, had a habit of being modified after the fact by anyone and everyone.
I do wish Remington would offer a factory letter. The records do seem to exist. -
I use Lee Dies. An mish mash of different makes of brass, .313" 100 grain RNFP bullet, 3.0 grains of Trail Boss.
I use this load in a Winchester 73, Winchester 92, Colt Lightning, and most recently acquired, Marlin 1888. For pistols I have a 1st and 3rd gen Colt SAA, and a pair of Colt Bisleys.
Die 1 is the resizer/deprimer die. Die 2 is the powder through the expander die, (a feature I LOVE!) and die 3 is the seater/crimper.
Early on, I had trouble with rumpled cases, or even cases that looked okay to the naked eye, but would not chamber in some of my guns. Got the Lee Factory Crimp Die for crimping and only seat with Die 3 now. Since doing that, I've not had the chambering problems. (Same can be said for .44-40)
I really, REALLY enjoy shooting this caliber. Although I more commonly use .45 Colt, I just like the guns I have for this chambering. I have "plans" to one day obtain at least 1 single shot rifle in the caliber, probably a Martini-Henry, and who knows what else. I also have S&W Model M&P and will prolly get a similar Colt someday. I wish that there were more SASS type revolvers for it, but nobody else made one back in the day. I believe Ruger chambers for it, but I am not interested in that one. It is a rather addicting caliber.
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In my collection, I have a 73, 2 66's, 3 92's, a Henry, and 5 Lightings in main match calibers.
I am fastest with the Lightning. Granted, I am a bottom of the pack shooter no matter what, but I do notice better performance with the pump gun. But that very well could come down to personal preference. If I was to make the effort to try to get faster, it would be with the Lightning, as I already "do better" with it. Note that all of my guns are either stock, or with minimal tuning. No race guns for me. That may also be a factor, but who knows?
In any event, based on the performance of my (brother's) Rossi repro in .22, I think a scaled up version of the Winchester in a main match caliber would be faster than a Lightning. Just a guess on my part, but anything's possible.-
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Oh, I know it'll never happen. I just think it's an interesting what might have been kind of speculation.
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There was an article in the new American Rifleman about the Winchester 1890 pump action .22. I bet most of us are familiar with this rifle, and that many of us have one, one of it's "successor models" or the replica by Rossi. It's a great little rifle.
But there was something in the article I did not know that caught my eye. There was an offhand comment about how the rifle was originally designed for the same cartridges that could be found in the 73, and 76 centerfire rifles, but they decided to make it a .22 only because they didn't want to be competing with themselves.
Well, needless to say, I found this very intriguing. I found myself wondering about a great rifle that never was, but could have been. And that leads me to the following speculation. If someone, Uberti, Rossi, Chiappa, whoever, were to actually market a version of this rifle that could shoot "main match" calibers, would anyone be interested in it? I have to be honest and say that I would be, even if I never used it for SASS, I think it'd be a cool one to have in the collection.Anyone else have any thoughts on this very curious idea?
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This was never my intention...
When it comes to the Model 3 variants, I have the following in my collection.1. S&W New Model 3 Target in .38/44
2. S&W New Model 3 in .44-40
3. S&W Model 3 DA in .44-40
4. S&W 3rd Model Schofield in .45 S&W.
5. Uberti Schofield in .45 Colt.
6. Uberti American in .45 Colt.
Notice that both of my Italian replicas are in .45. I have learned that the Russian replica is also available in .45. And of course the Beretta Laramie, a kind of a hybrid between the standard and target New Model 3, is available in .45. I find myself contemplating getting these last two repros in this caliber so as to have all 4 replicas in the same cartridge.
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The main reason I wanted my American to be in .44 Special was because my Buntline is in that caliber. I have a great desire to someday go shooting in Tombstone and be all "Wyatt Earpy" with my guns.
I guess I'll just go with different calibers.-
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Well gosh all fish hooks! (Been reading Barks again...)
When these things first came out, I REALLY wanted one in .44 Special for various reasons. But, I could not find one in that caliber and had to settle for .45 Colt. I am jealous!
But, here's the ironic thing...
I have the reproduction American and Schofield in .45. I have real New Model 3's in .44-40 and .38-44. I don't have a Russian. But, you can get the reproduction in .45 Colt, as well as the Beretta Laramie in that caliber as well. I never intended to do it, but I have a very faint itch to get all four repro's in that same caliber. -
On 6/18/2023 at 7:12 PM, DeaconKC said:
I think it's the guy in blue to the right of the gal from Boston.
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On 12/6/2021 at 3:56 PM, J. Frank Norfleet said:
Here is a question for you 45 Colt Pedersoli Lightning owners. The Lightning is notorious for blowback in 45 Colt. Since I shoot 45 Schofield in my Marlins, I tried it in a couple AWA Lightnings. One I owned and one we just tried it on to check the blow back. Both of the rifles cycled the shorter round perfectly with no blowback. Has anyone here shot 45 Schofield rounds through their Pedersoli Lightning? Will a Pedersoli cycle the shorter rounds?
JFN
My .45 is an AWA, but I've not tried Schofields in it. But this makes me wonder about giving it a whirl. I find it curious that the shorter shell gives no blowback. Of course, I don't HAVE any Schofield ammo, and no revolvers chambered for it so, it may be a while.
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Just out of curiosity, is there a magazine spacer/plug that limits capacity? I have an AWA in .44-40 that it was very difficult to load round 9 and 10. After I removed the plug, they went in fine and magazine capacity increased to 14.
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That's why I am indifferent to the threaded barrel. I have nothing against silencers in principle, it just seems like an odd feature for a lever gun.
But then again, I never got one of those "tachticool" 94 based rifles because they don't have a bayonet lug.