H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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24 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp SASS#1628L said:
Wild Bunch shooting allows the 97 to be stoked with six rounds.
Again, I don't understand why.
The gun was designed with a 5 round magazine Wild Bunch requires a 97. (Or at least it used to.) Why does it write 6 round stages when the required gun only holds 5? You are pretty much forcing people to modify their guns. That makes no sense. -
17 hours ago, Muley Gil SASS # 57795 said:
Most likely it was sent back to S&W, who either rebuilt it in a different caliber, stuck it in their collection or probably, destroyed it.
A few years ago, when S&W temporarily reintroduced the M1917, I wrote and asked them if they would consider marketing the .30 carbine version.
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I've never understood why the 6 round mod is needed.
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Have you considered buying from the CMP?
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.30 Carbine? Sure, if I could load it with Trail Boss, I'd shoot it in a derringer!
Got the same price as above for the .32-20 version from American.
Along with the words, "They are not allowed in Massachusetts."
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Anybody ever make one?
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On 4/3/2025 at 1:39 PM, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said:
Hope that was not too much American History from 1776 but I had to share some of it 250 years later.
Those events were in 1775 actually. Too bad you didn't swing by Bedford and the Public Library to see the actual flag that was carried into battle by our Minutemen and was "to April's breeze unfurled."
But, Lexington and Concord (pronounced "conquered" not "Concorde) are great places to visit. -
2 hours ago, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said:
Nope that would not count as 4 states, only Maine and I’ve already shot there.
Well, you see, that's the strange part. It may be being held in Maine, but it's the TriState shoot for Massachusetts/Connecticut and Rhode Island. There may be some Maine shooters there, maybe even some from New Hampshire or Vermont, but it's "not for them."
Something to consider.
And who knows, the last several years, I'd been officiating at the Cowboy Church service on Sunday. Haven't been asked to this year though...
But I'm still going. I think I'll shoot my Bisley's and Lightning in .32-20 this time around -
On 7/29/2024 at 7:17 PM, Cowtown Scout, SASS #53540 L said:
Thanks for the suggestion. However, the week after Michigan I am shooting Maine State and the following week I am shooting New York State. So two weekends from Michigan I will be shooting in New York. Maybe next year I can shoot in Ohio and Pennsylvania in one trip from Texas.
I wish you could come to the Massachusetts/Connecticut/Rhode Island Tri-State match. It's being held in Maine this year. That would, I suppose, count for 4 states at once!
It's in early June this year.
On a similar light, the "Northeast Regional" is held out in the MidWest in Ohio in early August. I may try to get to that one this year. -
9 minutes ago, Chancy Shot, SASS #67163 said:
The repair I made to my colt knockoff was to remove the remains of the hand spring. Cut the straight leg of a Bobby Pin to the right length and peen it into the slot in the hand. Worked just fine. Some say that I am
cheapfrugal.Chancy
$crooge McDuck would admire you.
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14 hours ago, Chancy Shot, SASS #67163 said:
I have no idea about your pistol. I had a colt cap gun knockoff that would not rotate the cylinder unless it was pointing straight down. it was a broken hand spring. Good luck with yours.
Chancy
I had a similar problem with the Euroarms replica of the Roges and Spencer revolver.
Long story short, I took it to Happy Trails, who had to make some internal parts to fix it.
The Jager is a "clone" of the Colt, but it is also the most obviously "not a Colt" to the naked eye. It just looks different dimension wise. (Mine's a .45. I've never had trouble with it, but maybe I'm lucky.) Anyway. I figure it if looks so different on the outside, it's anybody's guess as to if internal parts from someone else will fit or not. You may need a gunsmith who can make what you need to repair it. -
Red Dot can be used well with both 12 gauge shotgun and many pistol cartridges, like .45 Colt. But I have not seen Red Dot for sale anywhere in years. Like Trailboss, which is good for everything except shotgun, it is pretty much unobtainium these days.
Green Dot can work well with the shotgun, and has some use as a cartridge powder, but I have only used for 20 gauge loads so far.
Win 231/HP38 are a good cartridge powder, but you must be careful with it. Far too easy to double charge and make your guns go Kaboom (Not in the good way) without meaning too.
HS6 is a pretty good powder for .45 Colt.
In case you can't tell, I am only listing powders I have actually loaded with, not with powders that I have read are good. They prolly are, but I only want to say what I have experienced.Of course, you can always use black powder or BP subs. That is fun, and while I have done it for novelty reasons or for use in very old guns, it is not something I make a regular habit out of.
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Hmmm...
I found a .33 WCF 86 for a very reasonable price. The above place has decently priced barrels.
But while I do know that the .33 is supposed to be based on the .45-70, I looked up the dimensions of the rim (on Wikipedia) and they are not the same. So I am wondering if this is a viable option.
Anyone who has a .33 WCF 86, can you make brass for it out of .45-70 and will it chamber? If I get the new barrel, I am still thinking about it properly fitting on the bolt face and the extractor grabbing it to extract. -
13 hours ago, Orient Express said:
Postage from Australia might be a killer.
Just factor it in to your reasonable price.
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As Cholla said, the original smoothbore 86's were made for exhibition shooting.
Me, well, I think a smoothbore 86 in .45-70 would be "better" than a 94 in ,410 for "reasons."
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Hi, everyone.
I have a desire to obtain a Winchester 1886 in .45-70, smoothbore. What do people think is the best way to get one?
Finding a real honest to goodness one that was made that way by Winchester would be great, but prohibitively expensive since only a very far few were made. So, that leaves other options...
1. Obtaining one that is otherwise fine, but having a gunsmith bore out the rifling.
2. Finding one with a shot out bore with little to no rifling left, and again, having a gunsmith polish out any thing left over and otherwise turn the sewerpipe into a shiny clean one.3. Find one of those also very rare "line guns" that were made with smooth bores. I have seen the prices on these all over the map, but they are very hard to find. And, although the ATF "deregulated" them as Short Barrel Shotguns a few years ago, I am not so sure they would be legal in Massachusetts. (Mass laws are complicated.)
Option 1 would likely be a modern reproduction. Option 2 could very well be an original. Option 3 is probably not realistic. Cost is a factor, but I know I will have to spend a few bucks.
Here's the funny part, I have seen newly made replicas advertised anywhere from $1200 to $2000 depending on maker and configuration. Interestingly, the least expensive use one I have seen is a Browning, in the $800 range, but I am less inclined to bore out one of those than an Italian copy for "reasons."Anyone have any suggestions? Am I overthinking this? Or is it just something silly I should abandon?
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55 minutes ago, Cholla said:
Do you mean W231?
Yes. Sorry about that. Mr. Typo is my enemy.
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Be careful with Win321/HP38 (They the same.)
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I use this to dispense my powder charges.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012762980?srsltid=AfmBOop5ywq7BEjU4KZoo7ilx-kTh7mVyTsXZaEOGDqp4W7HDrE0fP-H&pid=818489
Works great with Trailboss and other powders. While one charge is being measured out, I prep the next case.
They don't make this model anymore, but there must be a current something similar -
If you are having those kinds of problems with Trailboss, you should not use it. I'll gladly buy it off you for a REASOABLE price. PM me for details.
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I just realized that even though others have done so., I have not posted pics of the guns I mentioned in the first post. So...
Here's my Greener built on a Martini action
And here's my recently acquired Hopkins & Allen.
Not bad for 50 bucks!
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13 hours ago, watab kid said:
the speculation was it was a franklin mint commemorative - not engraved at colt
To me, "after market" engraving on a Colt hurts my interest rather than enhances it. People try to sell them for just a much as a factory engraved, and I don't think they are worth the many thousands the people ask. I don't know for sure if it harms or helps the value of the gun itself, it just diminishes my interest. There are engravers out there who do excellent work all on their own, but there is also "commemorative engraving" done by others that is frankly, not so good. Taking an Uberti and laser engraving it and thinking it is worth as much as a factory engraved Colt is a fallacy, in my opinion.
On the other hand, taking an Uberti and taking it to someone who can hand engrave it nicely and provide you with documentation that he did it, may be a legit way to get yourself an engraved SAA type revolver at a price you can afford. Heck, John Wayne used Great Westerns that were hand engraved in The Shootist, and by all accounts, they were two of his favorite guns.But would I have a REAL Colt engraved by anyone other than the factory? I honestly don't know.
And, occasionally, not all commemorative engraving on non-Colts is junk.
Uberti, Silver plated, hand engraved... Wanted one of these since I first saw the adds for 'em back in the day. Very well done, and the price was less than $1500.
But let that go.
I guess when it comes to non factory engraving, the best advice is, let the buyer's preference dictate what you do. Except for the obvious Colt on Colt work, it is of questionable additional value if you ever want to sell it, but if you are just trying to enhance something in your collection for fun, go for it. -
23 minutes ago, watab kid said:
how do these two cartridges differ ?
the reason i ask is i had occassion to get offered a colt SAA in 32 long colt [or so it was marked] the price was way too high to interest me so it left with its current owner , besides it was way to pretty to be one of mine
Both have the same bore size, but the S&W round was created with a bullet the same diameter as the inside of the case, like almost everything. The Colt round was created with a bullet the same size as the outside of the case, like a .22 rimfire. That means reloading the Colt round requires either heeled bullets, or hollow based ones that fit in the case.
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I have an 1860 Colt that is of Civil War era vintage. It has been cartridge converted at least twice in it's life and is now a .32 S&W Long. I'll probably use it with this rifle. I don't mind the different cartridges. To bad it wasn't converted to the Colt one though!
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And in all my years of shooting CAS, I've only ever been to 1 shoot in Pennsylvania that allowed it. Wish more clubs would do it.