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Posts posted by H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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Tom's Single Action Shop
675 Crawford Tom's Run Rd
New Lebanon, OH 45345
Phone: 937-687-1039That's him.
A great guy to go to to have your Lightnings worked on. And an even greater guy to just talk to from time to time. He has worked on several of my Lightnings, including my Large Frame one. Just an FYI, technically, it's not really a .45-70, it's a .45-85-285. This was a Colt proprietary cartridge that used a case with identical dimensions to the .45-70, but the lighter bullet had a much higher velocity. I can tell you from experience that if you use a 405 grain bullet, the OAL will be ever so slightly too long to fit through the loading gate. I switched to a 300 grain bullet which is a little shorter, and it fits just fine, and shoots great. (It's still .458" diameter) Also rifling was adjusted to work with lighter/faster bullets, so you may wanna keep this in mind. I stick to pressures that are deemed to be "Trapdoor safe" in this gun.
Good lucK!- 1
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25 minutes ago, El Chapo said:
Last time I bought a gun at Cabelas, they insisted that I had to leave the trigger lock on the gun until I left the store. I wasn't going to leave the gun in the car to bring them back their trigger lock, so I threw it away when I got home.
LOL! I have a small collection of trigger locks from guns I have purchased. Living in Massachusetts, I have held on to them only if I ever have to travel with so many guns that I don't have a hard case for them all. Those that wind up in an old fashioned soft gun case get a lock on them, just to avoid potential problems.
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1 hour ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:
(if those clones can be bought in your state? You did mention clone)
They can't
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10 minutes ago, Rip Snorter said:
They used to talk about "the long and the short of it" on point!
Oh, I do that with my .44s already
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It is weird to want a Sheriff's model and Buntline Special in .32-20?
A couple of months ago, I actually saw a Sheriff's in this caliber on Gunbroker, but I passed on it because Colt Sheriff's are C&R only in .44 or .45 caliber. As such, this one was not, and therefore, it is not legal to import into Massachusetts. I think the only way I could get a .32-20 Sheriff's model would be to obtain an existing one in .44 or .45 that's kinda beat up, and take it to Colt and have it rebarreled and recylindered. Probably more trouble than it's worth, but it's the only way I could get one.
By the same token, I've never even seen a Buntline in .32-20 nor heard of one. Other than doing the rebarrel thing, I'd have to order a custom one with factory engraving, and that's just too expensive and takes to long.
So, why do I bring this up? Well, it's looking more like I'm gonna be shooting .32-20 more often instead of .45 Colt/.44-40/.44 Special to make my powder last longer. (Yeah, yeah... I'm a miser.) But while I do have 5 rifles in the caliber, I only have 2 pairs of pistols. Two SAA's and two Bisley SAA's. I know that my only option in this chambering is a Colt (or clone) but I do like to have some variation from time to time. The Buntline and Sheriff's were the only things I could think of. But getting them... Not easy! -
I did get hit square on my glasses once. No damage, but it was disconcerting!
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Generically, I get the "walking the purchaser out," thing, but only to an extent. At Cabela's, especially in a case like yours where you are open carrying, it does seem kinda silly.
But what does Walmart do? I've never actually bought a gun there. I know when I worked at K-Mart in the 80s (I miss that place!) that when I sold someone a gun, I did walk them to the exit and hand them the box on their way out, so that's why I "get" it, but beyond that, I am curious as to what Walmart does. -
1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:
Hour and a half of isn't that bad, make a day of it. Most LGSs here are an hour or more for me.
Well, yeah, it winds up being an all day affair. But if you can't buy anything...
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To all my fellow New England Pards...
If you didn't know, and I did not, Maine has instituted a 3 day waiting period on gun purchases. I went up the Kittery Trading Post today for Septemberfest, and found a great rifle, an Uberti 66 in .32-20, something I thought I'd never see, and would have bought it. It would have been free thanks to some gift cards I have.
But, before we started the paperwork, the clerk asked me if I knew about the waiting period. Apparently Maine recently enacted a 3 day one recently. I had no clue. To be honest, it take me about an hour and a half to get up to Kittery, which is why I don't go all that often. I guess I'll be going even less now.
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Moving this to here...
I have always been impressed by people who go all out in their costuming. My own tends to be more minimal, but there is one getup that I like to trot out from time to time when I am feeling particularly silly. It's a variation of my normal getup, but I think you can see the humorous touches.
I call this my "Sheriff Buntline" alternate persona . Obviously named for the guns I am using. The rather dumb looking straw hat, the backwards gunbelt, and the attempt at a confused expression all add up to... Well, something...
I guess.
And shooting these two pistols as a pair DOES cause a lot of people to do a double take and laugh. (Real Colts, .44 Special)- 11
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Until they make of these "tacticool" lever guns with a bayonet lug, I'll continue to pass.
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I loathe Two Factor ID for many reasons. Please don't do it! Minimal password format is okay, but TFID, please, no....
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To me, it looks like a cross between a Marlin and a Henry Big Boy.
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8 hours ago, Dapper Dave said:
I'll advise my buddy - this classic is well out of print, the old style with no cross-bolt safety prior to Remlin. Thank you for your help.
That's an old one The cross-bolt safety actually predates Remlin. It goes all the way back to the final years of Marlin. But, if I wanted a Marlin, this is one that I'd want, a pre-safety one. But it's prolly also got a microgroove barrel, which does not work so well with cast bullets. Or so I understand.- 1
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5 minutes ago, Dapper Dave said:
LPP
LPP?
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.38 Special is probably the most popular caliber in our sport, for various reasons that have been stated, and probably more.
So, what do I shoot?.45 Colt
.32-20 (A not at all popular one, but one that is really nifty)
.44-40.
Those are my top three calibers in order of personal preference. Why? Just because.
I also have main match guns in....44 Special
.44 Magnum
.32 S&W
.38 Long Colt
and even 56-50 Spencer.
I have these guns because I found them to be interesting and the price was right.
Notice that I don't have a single .38 Special or .357 Magnum in the bunch. Why? It just didn't interest me. It's a great caliber, but it wasn't "for me."
(Oddly, when my brother was still alive, he was never into CAS, but he always talked about how much he liked .357 Magnum. Over the years, I got him a 2nd Gen Colt, a Rossi 92 and a Ruger in that caliber when he said the Colt was too nice for a knock around gun. He always said he'd try the game some day...)
Anyway... When all is said and done, don't worry about what anyone else tells you makes for a good caliber. Go with what you like, can afford, and will enjoy. Don't get a gun because you think it'll make a good "starter" and you switch to something "better" later. Get what you want, even it takes you a little longer. Let's say, for the sake of discussion, that you are in love with the idea of shooting a .45s out of a real Colt SAA. That's great. But even a used Colt will cost you a lot of money. So, you may have to get a used clone. If you do, get one that's in good mechanical condition, without regards to what it looks like. Or, if you really want to run .38's in Rugers because the Rugers are built like tanks, go for it. This is about what YOU will enjoy. Sure, you can go to a match, and people will let you try stuff. Maybe a friend will loan you some guns to try out. But in the end, you want to have fun. Since you don't have any guns yet, you are wide open as to what you can obtain. But be forewarned, this game has the potential to make your gun collection GROW at an exponential rate.
Take it with a grain of salt, and happy shooting!- 3
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Ever since I saw one on the cover of Guns of the Old West, I've wanted a Paterson converted to .38 S&W...
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My own lube practice for cartridges that require it...
Lube
Deprime/resizeTumble clean
Prime
Charge
Seat bullet
Crimp
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The powder I used was new. No. No spray lube. I must have double charged at least 2 cases. So, that left with about 2000 to break down.
My own carelessness, and nothing more. Others may have wonderful success with the powder, but I am not going to try. Too scared of myself.
Can't wait for Trailboss to come back. Or even Red Dot. That's pretty bulky too.- 1
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HP-38 in a .45...
'.45 is similar to .44-40. To easy to double charge.
Nobody's fault by my own. But I'll not risk using it again in the big calibers.- 1
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On 12/6/2021 at 3:56 PM, J. Frank Norfleet said:
Here is a question for you 45 Colt Pedersoli Lightning owners. The Lightning is notorious for blowback in 45 Colt. Since I shoot 45 Schofield in my Marlins, I tried it in a couple AWA Lightnings. One I owned and one we just tried it on to check the blow back. Both of the rifles cycled the shorter round perfectly with no blowback. Has anyone here shot 45 Schofield rounds through their Pedersoli Lightning? Will a Pedersoli cycle the shorter rounds?
JFN
My .45 is an AWA, but I've not tried Schofields in it. But this makes me wonder about giving it a whirl. I find it curious that the shorter shell gives no blowback. Of course, I don't HAVE any Schofield ammo, and no revolvers chambered for it so, it may be a while.
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Just out of curiosity, is there a magazine spacer/plug that limits capacity? I have an AWA in .44-40 that it was very difficult to load round 9 and 10. After I removed the plug, they went in fine and magazine capacity increased to 14.
.32-20 Buntline and Sheriff's model
in SASS Wire
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Oh yeah, that's true. If it was registered in the state prior to 199something, I always forget, it can be resold. Still, that does mean a limited supply.
Until recently, you could take the gun apart and just import the "frame" and do it that way, reassembling the pieces yourself, and then registering it, but as part of the desire to ban, "ghost guns," frame transfers are now forbidden as well.