H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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Hi, all.
Rossi has come out with a new gun that is a copy of the Marlin 95. I've heard that it's not as "exact" a copy as their 92 is of the Winchester, but it's still pretty close. It comes in several configurations, include what is essentially a "Mare's Leg" version in .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, 454 Casull and .45-70. I never thought I'd see what amounts to a Marlin Mare's Leg, and yet, here one is.
Here's a link to the .44 Magnum Mare's Leg. (I am using "Mare's Leg" generically to refer to a pistol version of a lever action rifle.)
https://rossiusa.com/product/rifles/lever-action/r95-44-mag-triple-black-pistol/
As you can see, it has some flaws. No traditional sights, plastic stocks, and a threaded barrel. Since it's legally a pistol, I suppose I could just cut the threads off, remove the rail, install some traditional sights, and get a wooden stock set for their 95 rifle and chop the butt off the stock, but I do wish they had made it available in that configuration to begin with!
Yes, I know Mare's Legs are not SASS legal, but the are fun!
Anyway, generically, does anyone have any experience with the Rossi 95s? Either the actual rifles or the pistol versions? I am, at a minimum, curious about them. Any information about them would be appreciated. I think that having one of the pistols would round out a collection of Marlin rifles.
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On 12/1/2025 at 7:26 PM, Tell Sackett SASS 18436 said:
3: UC-9 folding machine gun as seen in Robocop 2. This one doesn’t look like a radio. Uses Uzi magazines. $30,000
Robocop 2? That's what Virgil carried in the last original Planet of the Apes movie!
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Try Brasso.
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My out of the box Uberties all run well just fine with no modifications. I don't have one of the Japanese Winchesters, so I can't comment.
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18 minutes ago, Oddnews SASS# 24779 said:
I would like such a list, too. I have a 5 1/2 inch and an early 7. 1/2 inch with the “patent” still in the name (and “Uberti” on the bottom of the barrel). I’d love to know how many were made and what configuration.
I have one of those. It just looked like a generic Uberti to me, but had a great price, so I bought it. When I got it home and looked more closely at it, I realized it was a USPFA. 5.5" .45 Colt, Nickel. The finish is flaking off.
I also recently found a 4.75" .45 China Camp Model. These were done "in the white." I am very seriously considering taking both of them to Turnbull The USPFA I will have renickeled. The CC one... I dunno. Since it's in the white, it's a good candidate for being engraved. I will ponder for about a year as I save up for a descision.
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4 hours ago, Timothy said:
Colt discontinued them after numerous other companies began selling cheaper lower quality knock offs.
Well, that's I am looking into things made by Colt, Remington, Smith and Wesson, Merwin & Hulbert, Uberti, Pietta an the like. I want things of reputable quality.
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On 11/29/2025 at 10:30 PM, watab kid said:
interesting revolver i did not know existed , fun looking little revolver
It seems that back in the day, almost all of the major gun makers, and a few of the also rans, made guns of this class. By "class" I mean single action, small to medium frame size, .38 Long Colt or smaller caliber, and possibly with a spur trigger, but not automatically so.
As I have learned about and become more aware of more guns, I am impressed by the sheer amount of interesting stuff that exists. The .38 Long Colt cutoff is entirely arbitrary in my thought processes, and it might not be exactly correct, as I did come across a version of this pistol in a .41 caliber.
It is proving to be a fun new type of revolver to find example of.
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1 hour ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:
Except that the OP has a Ruger and it had a straight slot in the ejector rod housing….😏
Ah, so Rugers ejectors don't "twist" in the housing? I did not know that. Oh well. You learn something new every day.
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I saw a program once many years ago where a guy had been playing the violin. After finishing some song, he thanked the audience for their applause and something like this happened....
"Thank you. At this point, I'd like to put away my violin and play a different instrument." He put the violin behind his back, paused, brought it back out and said, "My fiddle."
The audience laughed, and then he started playing a really great fiddle tune. Don't remember what it was.-
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Okay,
As you can see, the cylinder pin is too long to remove.
But if you do this, you can slide it right out.
No need to shorten the pin or remove the ejector.-
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You might not have to do anything to get the pin out. When I get home tonight, I'll post pics of how I solved the identical problem on my Uberti Lightning, no modifications needed of any kind.
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On 11/23/2025 at 9:43 PM, Griff said:
Why wouldn't it be... from the SHB, Ver 27.9, page 8:
How many movies can you name where a '92 masqueraded as a Henry? Can't remember one with a Lightning... but surely... there's a cinematic precedent?
The "arguments" against the Hollywood Henry in B-Western are as follows...
If you make it out of a Winchester 66, which would be the most "accurate" way to make one, you are using a base gun not legal for B-Western.
If you make one out of a 92, you are on more solid ground with the gun. But some would say that it's either an unapproved external modification, OR you are trying to pretend it's something not legal, a Henry.
As far as using a Henrified 92 goes, I don't have any problem with it being used B-Western. As far as using a 66 or even a 73 to create a Hollyweird Henry goes, I personally would not care, but I can see why some people might.
But, I don't shoot B-Western, so I don't know if my opinion counts.
As far as the Henry Lightning goes, hmm... Maybe instead of removing the pump grip, brass it? Or just brass the part of the slide you attach the removed pump handle to.
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On 11/27/2025 at 8:20 AM, Dred Bob said:
How does somebody become a "Jedi"?
Strong with the Force, you must be. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never attack. Beware of the Dark Side, anger, fear, aggression. The Dark Side are they. Once down the dark path you start, forever will it dominate your destiny. To be a Jedi, you must do, or do not. There is no try. Remember, size matters not. Years you must spend as a Padawan Learner, being taught by a Jedi Master. The trials you must face, and only then, a Jedi will you be.
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I have a Cimarron Lightning with the same problem with a 3.5" barrel.
Did you try this? I assume a crescent moon shaped ejector. If you depress the ejector as if you were popping out an empty, will the crescent pivot enough for you to slide the pin under it?-
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I wish whoever has the records would either use them to let us get "Factory Letters" or turn them over to Cody.
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I run .427" bullets in .44-40.
2 3rd Gen Colts1 1st Gen Colt (Antique)
1 Uberti
2 Colt Sheriff's models that are dual cylindered for .44-40/44 Special, 3rd GenAn after market .44-40 cylinder for use in my .44 Special Colt Buntline. 3rd Gen
1 S&W New Model 3 (Antique)
1 Merwin & Hulbert (Antique)
1 Uberti 73 rifle
1 AWA Lightning.1 Colt Lighting (Antique)
1 Uberti Henry1 Uberti 66
1 Marlin 1889 (Antique)
I had to have the chambers reamed on all the 3rd Gen Colts cuz they were too tight, and on the AWA Lighting. Everything else, the rounds chambered with no problems.
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56 minutes ago, Texas Jack Black said:
And we ALL have ALPO🤠
I don't get the references to dogfood...
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4 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
.22 Short --> .22 Long ---> .22 Long Rifle ----> .22 Winchester Rimfire.
Correction....
The .22 WRF is not a part of this family. It is akin to the WinMag, being slightly shorter than the Magnum. -
1 hour ago, El Sobrante Kid said:
Don't leave out the .22 Winchester Automatic cartridge. Only one gun was ever made that shot that cartridge, the Winchester Model 1903 semi-auto rifle.
Was that the centerfire one?
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.38 Short Colt --> .38 Long Colt ---> .38 Special ----> .357 Magnum ----->.357 Maximum
Where it breaks down is the "official" name of the .38 Special; .38 S&W Special. I really wish people selling things on Gunbroker and other venues would not use full name. It makes looking for things in .38 S&W, which is not a part of the family, difficult at times! At least I don't hear .357 S&W Magnum or .357 Remington Maximum!
But the problem is not unique to this family of cartridges...
.32 S&W --> .32 S&W Long ---> 32 H&R Magnum ----> .327 Federal Magnum (I really don't get the .327 designation...).44 Russian --> .44 S&W Special ---> .44 Remington Magnum
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There does not seem to be a problem with the following....32 Short Colt --> .32 Long Colt
And there is a unique problem with these...
.38 S&W --> .38-44 Target.
The problem comes from the fact that there are 2 .38-44's The original was a .38 S&W made longer. The newer one used the same case as the .38 Special, but was loaded to nearly .357 Magnum levels.
Oh well...
Honorable Mention...
.22 Short --> .22 Long ---> .22 Long Rifle ----> .22 Winchester Rimfire. This last one, now rather obscure, it not the .22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire. It's just a .22. LR made longer. I think to the same length as the WinMag. It did not have much success, and faded away quickly when the WinMag came out.-
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18 minutes ago, Timothy said:
I'd love a range review if you cant find heel base bullets hornady hbwc 35s may work.
For .38 Short, and Long Colt, i use a .358" 150 grain RNHP from Buffalo Arms. I either load it with Trailboss for use in safe for smokeless guns, or black/sub for guns like this one that require it. The bullet is pretty much pure lead. It of course works well in guns with a .357" bore, and the hollow base "bumps up" to grab the rifling in older guns with a .375" bore.
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Addendum...
I am not sure how it's doing it, but the New House DOES seem to be able to lock between the cylinders, at least when it's not loaded. But only if the loading gate is closed. If the gate is open, it's not locked.
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I just picked up an interesting small revolver. A Colt New House .38.
The .38 in question is .38 Long Colt, which means it can also run .38 Short Colt. It is in excellent mechanical condition and the bore is very clean.
According to Colt's Website, it was made in 1882, so it's a black powder only gun.
I have recently become fascinated by these smaller sized single action revolvers, of .32 and .38 caliber. They are just interesting guns. Many have a spur trigger, more than a few don't. That many of them are 5 shot with no safety notch limits their usefulness as a main match revolver. You could of course load them with four and load the 5th on the clock, just for the chance to use them, which might be a pain, but might also be fun. Of course, many of them fall into that nebulous area of is it small main match gun, or a large pocket pistol? We'll let that go for now.
Between what I have in my collection, and a few recent acquisitions, I am finding myself really interested in these things. Colt, S&W, Merwin & Hulbert, Remington, and who knows who else all made things in this general category. Calibers that I have found things in include .32 Short Colt, .32 Long Colt, .32 S&W, .38 Short Colt and .38 Long Colt. Curiously, I have not found anything in .32 S&W Long, but I did find one modern made gun with a .32 H&R Magnum cylinder that you could rung the S&W Longs in if you want to, and I intend to do just that. If memory serves, the S&W Long didn't come out till the early 1900's, so maybe that's why I don't find anything specifically in that caliber? (I have seen some vintage double action pistols of this size, but no singles.)
Anyway, I really, REALLY find these guns to be interesting things to own and collect. Regardless of if I ever use them in our game, I may take them up to an indoor range to test fire them and see how accurate they are. Of course, some of these do need to be loaded with black powder, so I don't know if they allow that. I'll have to call and check, I guess. I will also admit that a couple of my guns of this type are currently with my gunsmith, getting fixed, but I am eager to get them all back so I can share them with you all, just for the fun of it.
And finally, a couple of weeks ago, while talking about these types of guns in another context, I brought up the idea of an unofficial shooting style (akin to Josey Wales) where you would use two of these types of pistol, loaded with four rounds each, with the final 2 round being fired from a derringer. It was suggested that this could be called "Gambler Style," and I think that's a good a moniker as any. Shotgun and rifle would be any normal main match type. Maybe, at the very least, it can be a single stage side match at a bigger shoot.
Setting aside whatever way, if any, these guns can be used in our game, does anyone else out there find them to be interesting? I know that for pocket pistols, most of us gravitate to DA pistols, but there are a good amount of these interesting SA guns. Let's chat about them.
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.38 Special and .357 Magnum are about the only 2 SASS Legal calibers that I really don't have any guns for, and that I am not interested in, for Cowboy shooting. I DO have a derringer in .38 Special, but I run .38 Short Colts in it. I also have a couple of revolvers in .38 Long Colt.
For .38 Short Colt I run 1.2 grains of Trailboss using a .358" 150 grain RNHB bullet from Buffalo arms.
For .38 Long Colt, I run 2.0 grains of Trailboss using the same bullet.
It works very well.
I do sometimes also load with black, and in that case, I just fill the case so I get the proper amount of compression with the same bullet.
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Pietta Prospector .44 Magnum SA revolver
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It'll be nice to have a full battery in the same caliber. Will the Marlin run .44 Specials without any problems? I know for a fact that certain Winchester 92 or copies thereof, find the shorter round to be problematic. (Others will tell you they have no trouble, so your milage may vary.) Anyway, if you Marlin runs Specials all right, then by all means use them. But it is also very easy to load .44 Magnums no hotter than a Special. Which is a good idea in our game!
If the price is right on that pistol, I would not hesitate to obtain it, but keep in mind that adjustable sights are not allowed in all categories. You will need two pistols, and while many people like to shoot a "matched pair" that is not a requirement.
As far as .44 Special itself goes, finding guns chambered for it can be difficult. It's actually easier to find Magnums, but if you are patient, and keep looking, you will find revolvers in both calibers. Rifles, well, I've seen a lot in .44 Magnum over the years, and you already have one, so that's good. But in all the years I've been doing this, I've only ever seen 1 rifle, a 73 copy, in .44 Special. (I shoulda bought it.)
For .44 Magnum revolvers, Uberti made (may still make) a slightly scaled up version of the Colt in the caliber, with either fixed or adjustable sights. These are fairly easy to locate. There are also some "classic" used guns in the caliber, such as the original Great Western, the Interarms Dragoon to name two.
Good luck, and above all, have fun.