H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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Posts posted by H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619
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On a whim, I just tried running some .45 Schofields in my AWA Lightning chambered for .45 Colt.
They worked flawlessly.When I tried them in my lever guns, 66, 73, or 92, they didn't work. One and a half cartridges tried to feed. I just realized I didn't try them in my Burgess, but I have a feeling it won't work in it either.
But, they worked in the Lightning...
So, if you wanna shoot .45 Schofield and you want a rifle that'll work with 'em, get a Lightning in .45 Colt.-
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I do indeed mean .44 Magnum, the cartridge created by making the .44 Special longer. It has been humorously referred to as ".44 Russian Extra Long" on occasion here on the wire. I honestly don't know how popular it would be amongst Cowboy shooters in general, but amongst us Lightning fans, it might be. I mean, I'd enjoy the option of using one instead of my 92 when I trot out my .44 Mag pistols. Plus, every Lightning shooter I know, including myself, likes having multiple rifles in different calibers.
Getting one in .44 Magnum would very much give me an excuse to get another one. It would be my first Pedersoli, and would help to add something to my Colt/AWA/Taurus collection.
Yes, standard configuration would be one that looks like this...
When it comes to these old timey designs, I am very much a traditionalist when it comes to looks. I don't like the features or odd changes that most "updated" versions of these types of things have.
I do sometimes think that the "tachticool" versions of some of these guns are interesting, but they don't have bayonet lugs, so I don't bother. That's be a traditionalist in the other direction, I guess.
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Still want the .44 Magnum in standard configuration.
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1 hour ago, Tex Jones, SASS 2263 said:
USFAs never had a safety block since they weren't Ubertis.
Well...
Here's my pistol.
As you can see, it's not pristine, but is still in overall pretty good shape. Comparing it to some of my other Uberti pistols, I have to say that the wood to metal fit is much better.
And yes, it is a USFA
This is from the top of the barrel.
And, yes, it is also an Uberti
This is from the bottom of the barrel.
And yes.... It does have that weird hammer block safety.
So, apparently, the early USFA's were indeed made with Uberti parts.-
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Look on the top of the barrel between the rear sight and the frame. That's where it is on an 1889 gun I have.
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Once they switched to made in the USA parts, did they retain that weird safety thing in the hammer? If not, then they are closer to the SAA than the Uberti...
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Found this article.
https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/this-old-gun-united-states-patent-fire-arms-tombstone-buntline/
It's about a specific model, but has some good information about these early USFA's. Apparently, Uberti parts assembled and finished here. Never thought I'd have a USFA of any kind. And now I sorta do.
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I need some help understanding a newly acquired Uberti SAA clone. 4-3/4" barrel, nickel finish. It's got the ubiquitous Uberti style safety in the hammer.
When I got it home, I started entering it into my personal records, and of course, once of the things I wondered was who imported it. I started looking for markings, and this what I found...
Left side:Back of barrel near frame: 45 COLT
On frame below cylinder: Three patent date lines
Just behind trigger guard: 45CAL
Bottom of barrel, just in front of cylinder pin: A UBERTI - ITALY 45
In front of trigger guard and on bottom of frame: matching serial numbers 124xxx There is also a P above both serial numbers. It's also on the bottom of the grip handle.
All pretty straightforward. But here is where it get intriguingly mysterious to me.
Top of barrel: U.S. PT F.A. MFG. Co.
HARTFORD. CT. U.S.A.That last set of markings confuses the heck out of me. Is this actually a USFA made with Uberti parts? I've read here conflicting assertions as to if they ever did so. Is this proof that they did? What the heck have I found?
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I wish the .44 Magnum had conventional sights and stocks. I'd buy one if it did.
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Interesting. I guess the Massachusetts License to Carry Firearms does not qualify. I have never had a local FFL not call it in. Maybe I'll ask about it next time I buy a gun.
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That's third gen, right?
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On 1/22/2025 at 8:27 AM, Warden Callaway said:
Most of the same features as my Cimarron Eliminator 8s. Except the Eliminator 8s have 1860 Army grip frames. I had to put stronger main springs in them to get reliable ignition. Did a lot of work on both of them to get them to work. When the buzzer went off, I couldn't tell the difference.
SAA frame. 1860 grips. Octagon barrel. Where have I seen something like that before?
Oh yeah!
My custom made Big Iron. -
Load one, skip one, load four. Cock and lower on empty chamber.
What's so hard?-
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Wranglers....
Didn't Tex have a low opinion of people who wore them?
Or are you talking about a pistol made by Ruger?-
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Other issues aside, "Mass compliant" means that in order to be sold a handgun must be on the "approved list." To get on the list, it must be able to pass various Massachusetts mandated safety tests. This of course applies to new guns. Used guns on the list are also okay.
But, if the gun is not on the list, it can not be sold here. This applies to guns made after 1998. However, for guns made prior to 1998, you still have to be able to prove that it was registered in the state prior to 1998, or it can not be sold here either. If you happen to own guns not on the list, or pre 1998's that were not in the state, you can bring them with you if you move here, but it is somewhat ambiguous as to if you can sell them or not.
This is why used guns are more expensive here.
But see, every dealer KNOWS what is and is not Mass Compliant. So, I really don't know why they'd bring things to a gunshow they know they can't sell.
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Went to a gunshow today. Was surprised to see a USFA SAA clone for a reasonable price.
"I'd like to buy that gun."
"Sorry, it's not Mass compliant."
Went to another booth. Saw an Uberti Buntline.
"I'd like to buy that gun."
"Sorry, it's not Mass compliant."
Why do dealers bring things to a gunshow in Massachusetts that they can't sell?-
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.44 Magnum? That would be of interest to me.
Pedestal...
Assuming that is a typo for Pedersoli, I googled .44 Magnum Lighting Shot Show and found this...
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2025-pedersoli-makes-pump-action-rifles-great-again-44818438Sadly, it looks like the .44 Magnum is only available in a modernized version of the gun, and not a regular one.
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1 hour ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said:
I got one of these...
https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1886-tc86-takedown-16-5-45-70-lc1-220100.htmlIt is currently being "customized." It's getting conventional sights, the forestock is being replaced with a standard size one instead of the fat one it does have, the stock is being cut to be just a pistol grip, and the lever loop is being enlarged. In otther words, it'll be what the Mare's Leg should have been.
Won't be SASS Legal, but it'll be FUN.
I'll also have a non cut shoulderstock to use it as a short rifle if I want to. Not crazy about the muzzle cap, but not much I can do about that. -
Y'know, .45 ACP would make more sense than 9mm...
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1 hour ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:
Not sure, but don't think PWB has received an answer to that.
I seem to recall PWB commenting in another thread recently that the threaded barrel is a no no, even with the cap on.
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17 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said:
I hope you can join us at some point.
Maybe I'll be able to finagle my way to one of them. At least 3, I don't think I can get enough time off work.
Would love to do all seven, but man, that would mean loading up a lot of ammo! Maybe when I am retired...-
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Looks like a Rossi to me with that bolt top safety.
Why do new companies insist on calling themselves the same thing as long defunct ones and then not bother to recreate what their namesake was famous for?
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19 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said:
Here it is on Taylor's website: https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/tc73-rifle-18-9mm-tuned.html
Seems a little pricey but Made In USA is worth it to some. Looks to me like a hacksaw to the muzzle would make it SASS legal.
Check the barrel length.
I have one of their 16.5" 86's with with the threaded barrel. I thought about cutting off the threads, but the are .5" long, and that would take the length of the barrel, theoretically, to exactly 16". I don't wanna risk the wrath of the ATF over the barrel being 1/16th" too short.
It would be nice if there was a smooth cap to make it look better, but dang it, the cap is on there so tight that I can't get it off!
.45 Schofields in a rifle chambered for .45 Colt
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Well, what is "interesting" is that while with the lever guns, you either need to tweak the gun, or the load, or both, to run the shorter cartridges. But, to my amusement, the Lightning ran them with no modifications needed. To be honest, I am curious to try it with the Cowboy .45 Special, but I don't load that one.
What prompted me to try this, was how a cartridge I am "developing" a .45-70 trimmed to .45 Colt Length, (I call it the .45-45) works just great in my large frame Colt, but only marginally well in my 86's.
It's fun to try new things.