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  1. 9 minutes ago, Shamrock Sadie said:

    Here's a different example that would warrant a SDQ as a traditional style shooter, as the control is going from one hand to the other.

    Shooter draws their right pistol with right hand holding the grip, cocks the hammer with their left thumb, then switches the grip from their right hand to their left hand, and then fires all 5 rounds.

     

    Even if the cocked revolver never left both hands completely? 

     

    And they never changed from a two-handed shooting style?

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  2. We're working on it, and improving all the time.

     

    If reading through the responses is any indication, this call would have been made a lot of different ways out there by different TOs.

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  3. 6 hours ago, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:

    Sorry Dudley, this is straying from your situation

     

    Which one? That people keep insisting that Branchwater Jack and Dudley Do-Wrong are the same person?

     

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    Personally, I see where they have the same sense of style. But, other than the belt, watch, and a couple odds and ends, I just don't see the resemblance.

     

    But then again, my brothers are twins...

     

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  4. 8 minutes ago, Tucker McNeely said:

    Reading the rule book in the SDQ section it says when, “A cocked revolver leaving the shooters hand.”  The amplifying or clarification is not in the SDQ section.  I say no call.  “Shooters” is plural and not possessive. So to me it implies either hand without distinction of the “shooting” hand.  The revolver didn’t leave either of the hands or gravity would have prevailed.

     

    If you are only relying on one section of the rule book to make a call, let me divert the topic to ask you another question....

     

    At what point, after leaving the stage following the course of fire, is a shooter subject to penalty for not following unloading table procedures?

     

    But, let me pull your gravity thread.

     

    Duelist shooter. Pulls pistol with the right hand. Cocks the pistol with their right hand. Goes, "Well, I need to pull the hull." Grabs the cocked pistol with their left hand using their thumb on the top strap and fingers on the trigger guard. They are now holding the pistol with both hands. They then move their right hand from the grip of the pistol to pull the hull from their shotgun. They then reach up, grab the grip with their right hand. They are now holding the pistol with both hands. They finally release the pistol with their left hand and shoot the round with their right hand, unsupported.

     

    No call here, too, right, as the revolver "didn’t leave either of the hands or gravity would have prevailed"?

     

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  5. SHB pg 13

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    A cocked revolver may never leave a shooters hand, including from one hand to the other. This does not apply when loading or reloading on the firing line. 

     

    The key here is not necessarily that the strong hand must remain in contact with a cocked revolver, the rule states that a cocked revolver may not be transferred from one hand to the other unless it is being loaded or reloaded.

     

    I talked with Dudley and he said that he actually did not have two hands in contact with the pistol when the pistol was cocked. The cocking hand was in contact with the support hand and not the revolver until he transferred the revolver to the cocking hand where he gripped the revolver with by the top strap and trigger guard. Then, he took back hold of the grip frame with the support hand and went back to where his off hand was resting on his support hand.

     

    Would you have allowed a duelist shooter to take their cocked revolver, transfer it to their off hand, and hold it in the same manner as Dudley in order to clear the hull?

     

    I think we agree that the penalty also applies to an unsupported shooter who draws the offhand pistol, cocks it and passes the cocked revolver from one hand to the other. However, this is a convention that applies to everyone.

     

    I'm not sure of the original intent of the rule, and I didn't run this one by anyone else...but it is making for some great conversation.

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    What's the call? But, perhaps even more importantly, this episode just might answer the question that y'all have been asking for a while...Are Branchwater Jack & Dudley Do-Wrong secretly the same person?

     

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  7. 11 hours ago, watab kid said:

    sorry for your loss , never easy , prayers up , 

     

    it does seem someone paid a bunch more for his - based ion other entries of the time , 

    And, remember, this was for the first time he was buried....

  8. They say you can never return home, although I'm here to say that maybe sometimes you can return only for a short time.

     

    I was last at this place about 32 years ago following the death of my grandfather. I return, now all that time later, to help see my grandmother to her final resting place beside him.

     

    The funeral, in St Joseph Missouri, brings me back close to a lot of time that I had spent in that area with my grandparents as a youth. 

     

    I have family connections to the outlaw and some of his lore, and it is always intriguing me. Although, I probably didn't appreciate much of the historics behind it until later in life.

     

    The funeral home where my grandmother's services are this week is home to a small museum documenting and preserving many artifacts from their almost 150 years of existence.

     

    Following his murder, committed by the coward Robert Ford, The outlaw Jesse James was taken to the funeral parlor and a small basket.

     

    They also have on display The ledger documenting the services for Mr James.

     

     

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  9. 9 hours ago, Griff said:

    TW... that is where the RO III manual is great at resolving these apparently conflicting issues...  The observing spotter or other shooter should bring the matter to the TO's attention... in a forceful & commanding tone, for the TO to then issue the relevant and binding commands to the offending shooter!  

     

    I remember a LONG time ago. It was like my second or third big shoot.

     

    You shot rifle a P1, hopped off the boardwalk and moved downrange, and shot pistol and shotgun.

     

    I was picking brass and the shooter, upon hopping off the boardwalk, had their loaded pistol extricate itself from the holster and wind u on the ground.

     

    Everyone was traveling with the shooter and did not notice the implement resting on the dirt.

     

    I hollered stop.

     

    Everyone turned to stare at me. One person looked at me, "the new guy" and started to say something about you should not say that. Now you messed up the shooter and they get a reshoot.

     

    Then they noticed my hand and finger pointing at the shiny object sitting on the ground and the realization of why I said what I said sunk in.

     

    I learned a couple things that day, at least of which was probably a better way of handling that situation.

     

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  10. 1 minute ago, Hoss said:

    I understand where you are coming from, but….. not having shotgun shells is not a safety issue. 

     

    But, then again, how many other self-created safety issues do we currently award reshoots to the shooter for?

  11. 47 minutes ago, Hoss said:

    I’d like to see the rule changed where if shooter starts stage without glasses, they would be stopped and given reshoot. 

     

    Should we do the same if the shooter started the stage without shotshells on their belt?

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  12. 4 minutes ago, Itchy Trigger said:

    May have been posted due to this thread.

     

    Believe it or not, we actually filmed this episode before April...

     

    There are times when a topic comes up and I smile just knowing the timing is off...

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  13. Speaking of the tgs.. I know some that are great, I know others that are the TG just because they are the land owner or the oldest guy or voted as most popular at the club, and everything in between.

     

    I do question the relevancy of the TGs today.

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  14. 21 hours ago, Slewfoot said:

    @Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903

    I had no idea Roper-type toes were permitted, that simplifies things greatly! Am I correct in still presuming no type of lug sole is allowed, even if it’s on a pair of Ropers or Wellingtons?

     

    The majority of shooters are free to wear lugged sole boots.

      

    There are some restrictions for those in costume categories against it.

     

     

    As far as clothing goes...

     

     

    Personally, I like dressing up like a politician!

     

     

    Drats.... @Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 beat me to it!

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  15. Just now, Tennessee williams said:

    I have all the faith in the world in Jedi Gunfighter of the year BWJ! 

    I bet Dudley could pull it off shooting Duelist or Gunfighter style!

    You know who I used to love watching lean into the next move?

     

    Papa Dave

     

    On a rifle string when he got around eight off, he would start leaning into the direction he was going to go. By the time he got the finger to the trigger of the 10th round, his feet were moving.

     

     

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  16. I have found pan lubing comes down to having the correct lube recipe, and getting the cake and bullets popped out at just the right temp.

     

    Too hot, and it's a mess.

     

    Too cold, or a lube too hard, the wax just shatters or doesn't stay in the groove.

     

     

    I can tell you the secret to getting it right... And not end up tearing your hair out...

     

    But you might not like it...

     

     

     

     

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  17. 1 minute ago, Tennessee williams said:

    Well where do we send our donations for help with production? 

    You know how much I got to practice just to shoot in the traditional style?

     

    And now you want me to do that and lean at the same time?

     

    You think I'm better than I am!

     

    :lol:

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