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Posts posted by Widder, SASS #59054
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Thanks PWB.
JEDI GF recognition ain't 'given' to anyone......... its earned.
There are 4 Council members, of which any can choose someone to the JEDI ranks: Scarlett Darlin, Jed I Knight, Billy the Avenger (keeper of the
Light Saber), and Widder.
There are 2 basic 'cast in stone' requirements: RO certified and shooting GF for atleast a year.
But there are many intangibles that enhance a person to earn that recognition.
And for the most part, a recommendation from a JEDI GF helps (sponsor).
JEDI GFer's have their own Pin and there are also JEDI belt buckles available.
The BIG intangible: is the person an asset to SASS and their local club(s).
There are 'Master JEDI', which are the hardest to achieve. ALL 4 Council members MUST approve 'Master'.
There are "JEDI GF of the Year". A majority of the Council must approve this recognition.
Best regards.
..........Widder (JEDI GF #21 and Council Member)
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14 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:
For a real crappy "Gun Show", drop in to a Canadian one.
SHUDDER.
You can find a few fudge dealers though.
Down South, lets not forget the 'flavor roasted peanut' vendors at the gun shows....... along with pocketbook vendors for women
who are looking for a pocketbook to carry their EDC piece.
I will admit that a good many of the gun show vendors here in E.TN are legit and courteous. Prices often seem high, but eh,
everything else is also.
..........Widder
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I was curious about velocity in relation to a couple favorite powders I use in 4 different 9mm pistols.
1. CZ P01 3.6" barrel
2. CZ Shadow 2 Compact. 3.8" barrel
3. H&K P30 4.2" barrel
4. S&W Competitor. 4.9" barrel
Powders: charges listed are around the mid-range based on manufactures load data.
5.4 grains BE-86. 124 grain JHP
5.0 grains CFE. 124 grain JHP
CZ P01
BE-86. vel avg 1092
CFE. vel avg. 1082
CZ Shadow 2 Compact
BE-86 vel avg. 1093
CFE vel avg. 1089
H&K P30
BE-86. vel avg 1146
CFE vel avg. 1113
S&W Competitor
BE-86. vel avg 1164
CFE. vel avg. 1125
Velocity was measured at 8 feet from muzzle.
Surprising (although accuracy is relevant to the shooter, proper rest, technique, etc...). the accuracy of each pistol was basically
the same on any given group, whether it be with the BE-86 or the CFE powder. They both have served me well and BOTH are
very accurate in all the pistols.
The velocity results of the BE-86 seem to be more impressive in all 4 pistols.
And personally speaking, my favorite load will be the Nosler 124 grain 'ASP' bullet using 5.4 grains of BE-86 powder.
Hope some of this data might help someone.
..........Widder
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Looks like Bones McGreedy showed up for the match and brought a few family members.
Also brought his dog..... Ham Bone.
..........Widder
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On 10/22/2024 at 5:31 PM, Blackwater 53393 said:
According to John Fogarty, that’s kinda’ an anti-gun song!!
I don’t know what his politics are, but he wrote the song in response to a news article about there being so many guns in the USA!
I wonder what country he would rather those guns be?
..........Widder
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Hey Blackwater,
I heard a rumor that ole TW told you that his Halloween Match was gonna be THIS Saturday. 😀
..........Widder
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Let me share a SECRET about TW.
TW host the annual 'Halloween' match at Wartrace every year. He sets up the stages with a 'Halloween'
flavor to them and of course, Halloween colors.
Anyhow, he also has a 'CUT THE ROPE' stage. The shooter takes the rifle and with one shot, tries to cut the rope
at about 10 yds. That 1st shot actually becomes the start indicator and the TO will then give the 'STANDBYE.....beeeeep'.
The shooter commences to fire 9 more rounds at the steel targets, as in a normal SASS scenario.
Ole TW has a nice gift for those who 'Nick or Cut' the rope.............. a DQ gift certificate for $10 towards a Nanner Split. REALLY!
Those DQ gifts are out of his pocket.
Just thought I would share a well known secret about TW.
Just because he's kin to Blackwater doesn't mean he's all bad! 😀
..........Widder
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4 hours ago, 9245 said:
In a perfect world I would use a pump, but with an arbitrary 2 round limit per the rules it would not make any sense as I would actually be putting myself at a disadvantage because I could only load one shell at a time and have to pump twice, with a side by side I can load both at once and open, close, and cock the hammers in less time than it would take to do those pumps, plus I can get the second shot off quicker. Side hammers give less resistance opening and closing because you are not working against internal hammer springs, and at least to me sweeping my hand over the top to cock the hammers is a quick and natural move, so to me I feel like it is a bit quicker. Also I just prefer the look of side hammers and feel like it fits the character and time period better.
Pump...SLOWER? Now that's funny right there.
..........Widder
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15 minutes ago, Lawdog Dago Dom said:
Do I see a buy one/get one bullet sale coming up?😁
If there isn't a 'Buy one/Get one' sale, atleast you'll be able to experience what its like to be
hugged by a JEDI GF Council member..... 😍
..........Widder
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After serving diligently for a few years, Possum Skinner has decided to retire from the JEDI Council.
He and I talked about this last year and since that time, we've quietly pondered on who would make a good,
hard working Council member, of which all the present Council members would have to approve.
Well, seems like 'HER' resume as a GF is never ending and now, SHE is an official JEDI Council member, assuming all
the duties and functions of a Council member.
Congratulations.......... SCARLETT DARLIN.
Her constant and distant travels are a huge plus. She has become an excellent GF and loves the Frontier Cartridge competition.
Now only does she have a growing resume, she is well known as a Gunfighter, vendor....... and excellent hugger! 😍
I personally want to thank Possum Skinner, of which it has been an honor to serve with. He brought a lot of
credibility to the Council and leaves with equal standing. He has served the JEDI GFer's proudly.
THANKS POSSUM!
..........Widder
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I can't read the detail either.
Where is she missing from?
Actually, she looks like a movie star that was in a popular TV series but I can't think of her name or
the show.
..........Widder
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27 minutes ago, Stump Water said:
Many MANY years ago I loaded up some 92gr 9mm. Used the same charge as whatever I was loading for the 115 gr. Wouldn't cycle the slide. If I were to try that again today I'd go with whatever is published as max powder charge.
I'm going to guess that Widder's 85gr stuff from DRT was 9mm +P. Don't know how you'd generate enough ka-boom with an 85gr bullet to cycle the slide otherwise.
I agree Stump. But the box didn't indicate a +P load........BUT, the velocity tells me it is on the 'warm' side.
The DRT ammo was given to me, otherwise I would normally not have it. So I don't know what brand of powder
is being used. It functions the slide on my H&K P30, S&W Competitor and CZ P01.
..........Widder
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Never shot any 95 grain BUT..... I have shot some 85 grain stuff from DRT (Dynamic Research Technologies).
The 85 grain stuff shot VERY WELL in my H&K and S&W. Velocity chronographed at 1347 and 1326 fps in those pistols.
To my surprise, the POI was 'basically' the same POI as my 125 grain handholds at 10 yards, although the 85 grainers
grouped nicely about 1/2" higher.
Did I like them....Yes. But for my reloads, I'll stick with the 124/125 grain HP's.
..........Widder
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I own ALL 3: Henry, 9422 and 39A. In past years, I also owned the 9422M (magnum) and 39M (Mountie).
Of the 3, the 9422 is the simplest to take apart, clean, and if needed, smooth up any burrs...... except of the 1/2 dozen I've owned,
I've never encountered any burrs, including the couple I had in 9422M. I think its the Cadillac of .22 lever rifles.
The Marlin 39 is a little different. Its a solid rifle. Not hard to work on, but its got a couple peculiarities.
The nature of its parts tends to make it stiffer than the other .22's mentioned.
The Henry is fairly simple. Its design SHOULD give 100% feeding reliability, but sometimes, the manufactured parts
don't move as smooth as they should and therefore, a good tuning can usually slick one up quite nicely and run fast.
The carrier is the main part to enhance reliability and smoothness. Its a fixed part (it don't move) but the lifter spring
and the lifter can hinder smoothness AND..... the feeding channel in the carrier can also have tolerance issues that
hinder the bullet from lifting in a timely manner.
And believe it or not, the tolerances can be perfect for 90% of the ammo we shoot, but there are those occasions where
an odd piece of .22 ammo don't like to move smoothly inside the carrier.
Personally, I've probably run over 5000 rounds thru my Henry and the aluminum parts aren't showing any wear or deterioration.
Henry SHOULD include some sort of 'lever stop' in their design for the main reason I stated in my video.
But otherwise, its a well made rifle that has earned a fairly good reputation.
FORTY ROD: You've seen what we've all seen...... big price tag on the 9422.
Right now, a LNIB or even a good, clean model (with or without box) can run $800 and up. Probably closer to $1000.
I've thought about taking the plunge and getting one of the 9422 'Trapper' models, even if I have to shell out 1K.
But I ain't ready for that yet.
..........Widder
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Hey PAT, do you know what an 'expert'. (X-Spert) is?
A drip under pressure........... hehehehehehehehehehehehehe!
..........Widder
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My Henry has ALL the bells and whistle modifications I can think of (Widder Soft Stroke).
BUT, there are still some of those odd ball bullets that sneak in that are kinda crooked and indeed, they manage to
jam with that 'bent bullet' gremlin.
Its often more of an issue with the ammo than the mechanics of the rifle...... even factory stock rifles.
I have 2 videos concerning certain modifications on the Henry .22
I'll see if they are still on YouTube and post them here.
..........Widder
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My Tacoma is a sharp looking truck but I gotta admit that the style of Chevy you got
is as sharp as nails.
And trucks are always one of the best threads for the Saloon.
Congratulations on a beauty.
..........Widder
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The video above is excellent, as he is a world class shooter.
Video's by Deuce are also 1st class and very informative. Deuce is also a world class shooter and know his firearms as well
as anyone.
Video's by Widder also are good and fun to watch. There are 3 'Dry Fire' practice videos that are helpful with the 97.
The 97 ain't exactly slow. A good 97 shooter can basically make it sound like a SxS, even with a single loading technique.
And some 97 shooters can make a semi auto shooter feel ashamed.
The Oak Ridge Outlaws are having their monthly 'TUESDAY' match tomorrow on the action pistol range.
Shooting begins at 9:30. I plan to be there. Bring your guns and ammo and join in on the fun.
Usually, only about 12-15 of us show up for this TUESDAY match. We shoot 5 stages and have a blast.
Come join us. There's enough fun for everyone!
Personally, I like the LNLR ammo for the SG.
..........Widder
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1 hour ago, Whitey James said:
I just bought a new Ruger/Marlin 1894 in 357. Have only shot one match with it so not much to go on. Is this just a Marlin Design flaw or was this a Remlin QC issue that may have been solved?
Sorry for my ignorance on the matter.
The design itself IS NOT a flaw but rather the integrity of the ramp material.
The RAMP needs to be 'timed' in relationship to the OAL of the ammo. Normally, this is all well and good from the factory.
Occasionally, the timing ramp may be off enough to give problems even on a new rifle.
BUT, the fix is to make the timing ramp using material that isn't prone to wear, such as a hardened piece of carbide steel
used for the ramp. Even something like a piece of jigsaw blade is a great improvement and isn't prone to wear much.
EDIT: although this isn't a design flaw, normal usage of the 1894 won't wear on the timing ramp.
BUT, Cowboy shooters use these rifles 100X more than the design ever realized being used.
Therefore, it wears down, which in turn, offsets the timing.
..........Widder
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For anyone having issues with the 'Marlin Jam', these carriers from Jackrabbit should solve your timing issues
and prevent the Marlin Jam problem.
The $35 plus carrier swap is a darn good price.
..........Widder
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Hey PatRiot,
when are you gonna load up some 'thunder boomers' and let us know what you think about em?
..........Widder
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El Chapo,
if you can, let me know if the .454 brass you have also has the slightly recessed area around the flash hole.
I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing its designed that way because of the smaller primer pocket.
I once read that original .454 Casull brass used large pistol primers but Dick Casull decided that small
primers were better suited for the higher pressures generated by the .454
My guess is that my Hot .45 loads generate LESS pressures than my .44 Mag loads.
..........Widder
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More info on the brass:
If you look down inside Starline .454 Casull brass, you will see the brass has a small
recess in the bottom, around the primer flash hole area. This is probably why the Casull brass has more volume than
.45 Colt brass.
The numbers above indicate that LESS pressures are likely obtained using Casull brass than with .45 Colt brass when
using the same data for 'HOT .45 Colt' loads.
..........Widder
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1 hour ago, El Chapo said:
Which is all the more reason why shortening a piece of brass meant to operate at 65,000 PSI and putting a 45 Colt load in it, even a Ruger Only one, is dangerous.
Howdy El Chapo.
Your concern is a valid concern. And, its is one I verified years back when I started using shortened Casull
brass in my .45 Colt hot loads.
Here is my data concerning the case capacities which many who are following this thread will be surprised.
I used a powder trickler to OVERFLOW each case, and then I skimmed off the top with a straight edge so that each case
was full to its maximum WITHOUT being a compressed powder charge.
Each charge was weighed using my Ohaus 1010 scale, which is a very accurate scale.
The brass was not weighed...... only the powder capacity.
For H-110 powder in the .45 Colt brass, full case capacity was 42.6 grains.
For H-110 powder in the shortened .454 Casull brass, full case capacity was 43.4 grains..... an advantage of .8 of a grain.
For Lilgun powder in the .45 Colt brass, full case capacity was 39.9 grains.
For Lilgun powder in the shortened .454 Casull brass, full case capacity was 41.0 grains.....an advantage of 1.1 grains.
EDIT: All the brass was resized using the same Redding, carbide die. This eliminated
any variances in the brass in resizing.
In reality, there is more capacity inside the shortened Casull brass than the .45 Colt brass. So any excessive pressures that
might have been a concern from using the shortened Casull brass has been no concern for me.
In the past 50 years, I've done a lot of testing with my reloads, including powder capacity, bullet seating depth, crimp
security, flash hole uniformity and many other aspects of reloading. Like I've stated before, I don't get into
Wildcat loading but rather try very hard to check out all aspects of my reloads, ESPECIALLY when working with
loads such as Hot .45 Colt fodder and my .460 Rowland reloads.
Thanks for bringing up the 'case capacity' topic, which has allowed me to post my information on the brass.
..........Widder
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RUSTY REMINGTON: shout out
in SASS Wire
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Hey RR......... been trying to reach you to no avail.
I've sent you a reply to your email but haven't heard back.
Holler at me! Thanks!
..........Widder