Widder, SASS #59054
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I've made my reservations.
The JEDI GUNFIGHTERS will be sponsoring the Side Match Speed Rimfire stage on Thursday.
If your a JEDI GF, be sure to drop by.
Right now, yours truly is battling Pneumonia of sorts. But, the doctors plan for me to be back in
the saddle before the State. This stuff wears me out.
Started a month back with a bad allergy (sinus infections) and when previous treatment didn't
remedy my ailment.....I was checked for the 'P' and confirmed today. New treatment plan has
started.
Looking forward to seeing everyone again.
Bring your best and fastest speed rimfire lever or pump rifle and lets find out just WHO the
real 'Huckleberry' is.
Hear tell Ole TN Williams is afraid to even try!
..........Widder
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11 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:
So would an M-16. The .357 hasn't been popular in my house for almost 60 years. I owned a few but I still go to a .44 or .45 in a handgun.
I was young and unsavy in handgun power and calibers except something turned me on to the Ruger Single Action
.357 Magnum. I could brag about its unproved reputation of shooting thru an engine block.
Well, I dont think it would have taken down a locomotive so I would have let it be.......... just like today.
Give me a BIG bore anyday.
..........Widder
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You can tell that 'I' didn't shoot it because its in one piece.
I prefer them 'blown to pieces'.
..........Widder
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My real name is Mike, but most know me as 'Widder', even at church.
I always answer the phone with 'This is Widder' and even my Mom (rest her soul) and my brothers
and sister know me by Widder also.
There are lots of 'Mike's in the world.......... but there ain't but one real 'Widder'.
..........Widder
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Although Scarlett Darlin is my 'go-to' person for my cowboy bullets, I needed a super-duper hard cast,
gas-check bullets to try in my S&W 460 mag. I ordered last week and received them today.
Great service and great looking bullets.
..........Widder
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PT was more than mere words could tell, and I was only an occasional visitor there.
But once you walked thru the barn, it was like you were entering a new time zone from
way back when. You had entered the 'twilight zone' of western history.
It had a 'spirit' of its own, which engulfed a warm, welcoming, down-home feeling.
Nobody was a stranger..... and it seemed that everybody was family.
Blackie, your quest for a little PT history is a worthy task.
..........Widder
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26 minutes ago, Turkey Flats Jack said:
It varies from rifle to rifle in my experience. I have 2 jm and a remlin. Only 1 of the jms will reliably feed 38s and 357s at recommended oal. The remlin only eats 1.57-1.59 oal without any hiccups. Sadly the other jm only feeds 1.36-1.40 oal faithfully.
Ymmv
THIS ^^^^^
From over 200 Marlins I have worked on, a high percentage can reliably feed 1.50" OAL,
give or take a few .000's.......... Basically, the high 1.4 range up to the low 1.5 range.
We normally only hear about those with feeding issues with shorter OAL rounds.
But the lack of information shared from the owners of 'reliable' Marlins keeps us
from knowing their preferred OAL is probably 1.5", +/-.
If someone has modified the carrier ramp to give it a faster timing, then shorter rounds
will work great. And if the timing is slower, then longer OAL rounds work best.
Best regards
..........Widder
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Speaking of reloading data, I also have some LIMITED data for the S&W 500 mag,
and the S&W 460 mag.
My 460 seems to favor H-110 and LilGun, but I have also found a VERY GOOD load
using CFE BLK when shooting the 300 grain bullets.
I've test AA9 and Ramshot 'ENFORCER' in both pistols but I didn't like the results as
well as H110, LilGun and CFE BLK.
..........Widder
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DAN,
I shoot a reasonable amount of .45+P, .45 Super, and 460 Rowland in my 1911's and
Power Pistol and Longshot have become my favorite powders.
AND, as you can tell from my data, Power Pistol and Longshot have warranted their
favorable usages in my 10mm also.
On a side note, concerning semi-auto pistol type ammo, I have found BE-86 my favorite
in the 9mm........ although I have not tested it for anything else.
AND..... CFE PISTOL is also an excellent 10mm powder but I couldn't
find my load data on it. If you want some data on CFE PISTOL, let me know
and I'll check thru my 10mm folder.
I've kept data on just about everything I've ever fired, including testing some
pistols for TN Williams. Everything from his S&W 617 (.22) up to his S&W 500 Mag.
Slater has told me that when I die, he would like for me to will all my load data
stuff to him. He don't want any guns....... just my load data.
The 10mm is a great cartridge and should serve you well in a revolver.
Its a true .40 caliber and I have found it easy to reload.
Some powders and published load data can give you a compressed load, so proceed with caution
on those. If I remember correctly, AA9 and Blue Dot have compressed load data, which I try to
stay away from.
..........Widder
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BUT...... what if Nicole ain't really dead?
It could have been staged event and she might be under the Federal Protection stuff.
Did we actually see her body? We saw 'the glove'.
..........Widder
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Howdy Dan
I use to shoot a lot of 10mm, but only in my semi-autos. But, for general purposes of
sharing some information about the 10mm, I thought I would list some of my data
from my velocity test. Here is a lot of data, but I hope it helps.
And I might add that this data is from MY testing and not from any book information.
I will show bullet weight, powder charge/powder type, and average velocity.
My chronograph was set approx 8 ft. from muzzle. And all testing was done in warm
weather.
Although accuracy is subjective to guns and shooter, I will also show those loads that
gave me the best accuracy from each pistol.
EAA WITNESS.......... 3.6" barrel
135 Sierra JHP. 16.2 / AA9. 1325. Best Accuracy
150 Nosler JHP. 12.7 / AA7. 1307
150 Nosler JHP. 10.0 / Power Pistol. 1309. Best Accuracy
155 XTP. 12.7 / AA7. 1319
155 XTP. 9.9 / Power Pistol. 1244
165 V-Crown. 9.5 / Longshot. 1223
Springfield 'XDM' .......... 3.8" barrel
135 Sierra JHP. 16.2 / AA9. 1359. Best Accuracy
150 Nosler JHP. 12.7 / AA7. 1331
150 Nosler JHP. 10.0 / Power Pistol. 1367
155 XTP 12.7 / AA7. 1359
155 XTP. 9.9 / Power Pistol. 1277. Best Accuracy
165 V-Crown 9.5 / Longshot. 1237
Springfield 'Ronin' .......... 5.0" barrel
135 Sierra JHP. 16.2 / AA9 1440
150 Nosler JHP 10.0 / Power Pistol. 1466
155 XTP 12.7 / AA7 1437
155 XTP 9.9 / Power Pistol 1387. Good Accuracy
165 V-Crown 9.5 / Longshot 1313. Top Accuracy #1
165 V-Crown 9.5 / Power Pistol 1307. Top Accuracy. #2
180 XTP 10.4 / Blue Dot 1236
180 XTP 9.4 / Longshot 1294. Top Accuracy #3
Iver Johnson 'Eagle-XL' ..........6.0" barrel
135 Sierra JHP. 16.2 / AA9. 1522. Good Accuracy
150 Nosler JHP 10.0 / Power Pistol 1476. Good Accuracy
155 XTP 12.7 / AA7 1471
155 XTP 9.9 / Power Pistol 1417. Good Accuracy
165 V-Crown 9.5 / Longshot 1333
180 XTP 10.4 / Blue Dot 1268. Best Accuracy
180 XPT 9.4 / Longshot 1319
Springfield 'Operator' TRP .......... 6.0" barrel (everything was accurate)
135 Sierra JHP 16.2 / AA9 1539
150 Nosler JHP 10.0 / Power Pistol 1540. Best Accuracy #1
155 XTP 12.7 / AA7 1489
155 XTP 9.9 / Power Pistol 1459
165 V-Crown 9.5 / Longshot 1359
165 V-Crown 9.5 / Power Pistol 1369. Best Accuracy #2
180 XTP 10.4 / Blue Dot 1296
180 XTP 9.4 / Longshot 1347
NOTE: The V-Crown bullet is a Sierra Bullet, but they call it the 'V-Crown'.
If you find any typo's (discrepancies) in my data, give me a shout back and
I can double check my data. Or if ya want a call, PM me your phone and I'll
call ya at your convenience.
Hope this helps. I ain't typed this much since sending Elvira a love letter
in high school........
..........Widder
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I always liked his personality. Always seemed like a great feller.
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Howdy DOC. Hope you are doing well.
Those BIG pistols do have a noticeable 'buck & roar' effect, but their grip design, plus
a good glove and wrist wrap, help. Although mine is a 5" model 460 w/comp, and TW's
is the 4" model 500 w/comp, the longer barrel models are not bad at all to shoot.
Their power is awe-inspiring. And the wrist does feel a little sore the next day..
And I know this sounds funny, but if you want to have fun shooting the 460 model with some
hot .454 Casull loads, just shoot the 500 first......... and then those Casull loads dont seem
bad at all.....
Take care.
..........Widder
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Here is the song I was thinking of..."If this old house was built on memories....."
Beautiful song. But YouTube won't allow me to embed it. Sorri.
..........Widder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLP2aHWKOpA
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Howdy Boggus.
Thats interesting. I've done that with my rifle calibers (6BR, 22-250, etc...) but never have
done it with my magnum pistol reloads.
I have noticed on some FACTORY ammo for the 500 and 460 that some manufacturers seem
to use the collet style crimp..... and some don't.
Anyhow, I'll report my results as soon as I can get back on the farm and do some 'shoot'n'.
P.S. - Hamiltom Bowen lives about 8-10 miles from me, in the same county.
I've met him but I've never visited his shop. Shame on me! He's got a great reputation.
..........Widder
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I think LEE makes a roll crimp die for the 460, BUT.... the specific die that I
have actually says: 'LEE Collet Style Crimp Die, 460 S&W'.
It specifically states... '460 S&W'.
And, it is a 4 petal (4 sections) die.
I like the looks of the crimp and I should find out tomorrow its effectiveness on some
good ole 460 reloads.
..........Widder
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First, a little background info:
In loading up some .454 Casull and 500 S&W ammo, I use an excellent ROLL crimp die that came with each set of dies,
plus I had a good 'LEE factory crimp' die to use for the .454 Casull also.
BOTH of those 'stout' reloads maintained their proper OAL while firing numerous other rounds thru the revolver.
Now for my 460 S&W reloads.
I'm gonna be testing my new LEE 'collet' style crimp die on some of my ammo AND I will also test
my ROLL crimp on the same type loaded ammo.
I'll be eager to see which style of crimp might work best under 460 recoil.
My loads will be 300 grain XTP's and 40.0 LilGun.
I measure and mark one piece of ammo, put it in the revolver with ONLY ONE other round, which is then fired.
Then I measure the marked round.
I repeat this process for 5 fired rounds and make notations of OAL of the marked round between each firing.
I've never used a 'collet' style crimp before so I'm eager to test it out.
Do ANY of the Wire Pards have experience with the collet style die?
THANKS
..........Widder
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3 hours ago, Rip Snorter said:
That you would deliberately harm a dog for being a dog is disgusting.
Well, the bee's are just being a bee and the fire ants are just being a fire ant.
..........Widder
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Yellowjackets: Ah, another Widder method of fun. Leave em alone..... for a little while.
If you got a neighbor whose dog is a nuisance and barks all the time, you try to lure
that dog over to the yellow jacket nest. YEEHAW..... what a show.
Then later... scorch em.
I've actually encountered a stirred up nest of YJ's where you could see the masses of them
swarming over their nest entrance. And the swarm was about 2 ft high and they swarmed in
an 18" diameter method resembling a tornado.
I took my shotgun with #8 & #9 shot and would shoot ONE round and you could visibly see a
hole thru that swarm........... but only for a few seconds. Then more YJ's would come out of the
nest to increase the swarm again.
That swarm lasted thru about 8 shots before I ran out of shells.
There must have been 000's. of those YJ's in there cause I wiped out a bunch of them
about every 30 seconds or so as the swarm replenished itself.
On a side note: If you try to wipe out a YJ nest without using chemicals, like spray or gasoline,
you can revisit the nest the next morning and if there are skunks in your area, the nest will
likely be dug open and most of the comb eaten. They love that larvae and/or the comb.
..........Widder
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Howdy JEDI Creeker.
I don't have a comment on match difficulty vs simplicity, but I do agree with Capt BB.
But personally speaking, it ain't the match that is befitting a Championship but rather the
competition that makes it a worthy event. And as we know, the big matches usually brings
out some of the top shooters from everywhere.
...........Widder
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Well, it spring time and the Carpenter Bees (wood bore bee) have once again decided to
make my deck a 'holy place'.
BUT, once again, my fully automatic air soft rifle has declared my decks a 'No Fly Zone'.
As you've already guessed, my spring time game of entertainment is airial combat training
with my air soft against those carpenter bees. THEY ARE FAST.....and can maneuver faster than
you realize.
But one thing for sure, they have a low tolerance to pain, especially with a small pellet traveling at 375 fps
make contact with their fat little body.
Let the War Games begin!
..........Widder
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38 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:
I see that logic. I use similar logic all the time. It works!
How PR.
Its kinda like that rich man who had 3 girl friends and couldn't decide which one to marry.
Girl friend #1 was beautiful, as were all of them. But she was well educated and had a good,
secure job. Her dad owned his own diamond mine down in Africa. She even knew how
to drive a straight shift pick up truck.
Girl friend #2 was might fine and had one of them 'take a 2nd look' type walks as she strolled
thru the shopping malls. PLUS, she was talented in music of all kinds and a great dancer.
She had inherited a little money which she turned into a successful business..... AND had
spent a good amount of her money on buying the rich man some fine golf clubs and
membership in his favorite golfing spot. She knew how to please him.
Girls friend #3 had eyes of an Angel. Her smile could melt any mans heart. She had a sweet
Southern accent that enhanced her Southern charm. She knew the difference between the
sound of a whippoorwill, bull frog or cricket on a warm summer night.
She was also kinda rich compared to most folks and drove one of them Audi sports cars.
But also loved sitting on the river bank fishing and sipping on a cold drink while her long
hair flew in the breeze.
Guess which one he married?
The one with the biggest hooters.
..........Widder
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1 hour ago, bgavin said:
I also enjoy my 22s at the range every week.
This week is 44 day... my Redhawk, Alaskan and a virgin Smith 629.
I'm curious to see if the Smith smacks my knuckles like the Redhawk does (and Alaskan does not).44 is all I want to tolerate for recoil..
NICE..... that 629.
I almost picked up the 629 'competition' I think its called..... or competitor.
But couldn't decide if I wanted it or the Stealth Hunter model instead.
Sooooo, I bought an H&K .45.
I already got the Anaconda and basically don't shoot the .44 as much as other revolvers.
..........Widder
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This thread has generated some good stuff and some good stories. Thanks everyone.
I still enjoy my .22's, rifles and pistols. And for now, I'm waiting for my 460 brass to arrive, work
up a few 'thunder boomers', and carve a few new ditches into the back hillside.
Of course, the glove and wrist wrap will be dress code for the day......
..........Widder
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Tennessee State Championship June 5-7 2025
in SASS Wire
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JK,
Most of the shooters use lever rifles while some might show up with a pump. No bolt or semi-autos allowed.
Rifles range from various Henry models, Winchester 9422, and Marlin 39.
There are a few Browning lever .22's.
..........Widder