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Widder, SASS #59054

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  1. I shouldn't post this info because it might stir up a hornets nest with some folks scampering to modify the Marlin 1894.

    But Deuce brings up a very interesting topic.


    Lets look at an 1894 conversion into a 9mm chambering.


    Personally, I would start with either an 1894 in .32 H&R mag or a .32-20


    The rim diameter of the 9mm is .394 *

    The rim diameter of the .32 H&R is .375 *

    The rim diameter of the .32-20 is .408 *

    *ref Speer reloading manual


    The timing on the .32 H&R mag is already 'close' to accommodate the OAL of your standard 9mm length ammo. Actually, the timing on one of my .32's will accommodate my 9mm ammo.


    Fitting a proper barrel with correct bore dimensions and chamber size/length would be an easy task for a machinist/gunsmith who knows his business. I'm sure it wouldn't be to difficult for a good barrel maker to have a proper barrel for the .9mm


    The .32 H&R Mag 1894 platform is already short stroked somewhat from the factory, and using the same carrier and bolt would probably work very well with little (if any) modifications required to the carrier..... unless the initial timing needs to be advanced just a little.


    The extractor 'might' need a slight mod, but the 9mm casing fits pretty nice on the bolt face of my .32 H&R.


    The 'Portal' will need to be opened up slightly to allow the case to move smoothly between the mag tube onto the carrier. BUT, the existing mag tube system on the .32 H&R will work with no modifications required to the mag tube itself.


    With correct timing and proper smoothing of the action, along with those items mentioned above to make an 1894 9mm, I honestly believe someone like Deuce can run 10 shots in sub 2 time.


    NO, I'm not gonna take one of my .32's and have a new barrel installed. And with my busy workload, I have no plans to work on one.


    A NOTE OF WARNING: PSI for the .32 H&R is around 20,000.

    PSI for the 9mm is around 32,000.

    This is something to consider before going to all the trouble to possibly blow up a rifle..... :o


    If anyone is considering this mod, I hope this info helps.




  2. I'm a fair weather sportsman. Sports are to be enjoyed; not endured.


    That is why my most favorite 'hunting' is varmint during the summer.


    Love sitting under a nice shade tree, rifles resting on some sandbags on the truck hood, cooler full of cold Pepsi, Baloney samich and chips in a poke, and snickers candy bar for snacking. All this set up at the edge of a huge field called home to a few groundhogs with an occasional crow & coyote wondering into the 'Waterloo' zone.




  3. Sounds like you deserve a 'Congratulations'.


    As you probably already know, sometimes its only 1 or 2 little Gremlins that need to be smoothed out to give you that 'real nice' rifle you've worked so hard on.


    Good job.


    p.s. - is the OAL length giving you a 'Marlin jam' problem or a feeding problem?

    If its the Marlin Jam problem, give me a call and I can probably help you eliminate that little gremlin. No, it won't be sending me the rifle but rather something you can do to fix it.


    h: 865 / 336-2339

    c: 865 / 696-1996




  4. About the ONLY thing I would consider doing on a cold winter morning is maybe venture into a rabbit field, w/dogs of course.


    Walking a field for rabbits allows you to be well clothed, gloved, warm boots, etc..... AND, never far from the vehicle where some warm coffee or hot chocolate awaits.


    There's just something magical about an early morning rabbit hunting venture with a few friends and dogs.




  5. My orders for primers have always been thru GRAF & Sons.


    I've never had an issue with them.


    You might want to give them a shout and see if they can help.




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  6. More info:


    There are few (VERY few) post on this forum that discuss this type mod, which is understandable.


    But, as some of our Marlin owners are aware, there are some good topics on this type mod (and the company) on the Marlinowners website.

    And the company owner (or rep) also visits the Marlinowners website to discuss his company and help answer a lot of questions from forum members.


    Hope this helps.




  7. At present, that is the only 'company' I am aware of who is doing such mods.


    BUT, there are a handful of individuals in SASS/CAS who work on their own Marlins and are presently making the conversions.


    More than that, there are also quite a few who have modified their Marlins to shoot the Cowboy 45 Special, which is basically a rimmed .45 ACP size cartridge that works very well in the 1894 with PROPER modifications.


    Marauder's website shows this type modification.


    There has also been a few 1894's modified by SPUR a few years back that were short stroked and handled the C45S cartridge.




  8. This conversion on the 1894 model is nothing new.


    The great news is that Ranger Precision (it might be named Ranger Point Precision) is working on some good mods (conversions) with the Marlin 1894 model.


    The Marlin can be modified to function with MANY cartridges.




  9. I'm in the 'Minimalist' posse also.


    Ruger pistols: about once a year.

    SG 97: I swab the bore with an oily patch every 75-100 rounds

    Marlin rifle: whenever it starts to feel sluggish, or a couple times a year.


    In my opinion, the type of powder residue and your lubricants can create hardened crud OR prevent it.

    Try to use relatively clean burning powder and good lubes and you may discover a lot of your cleaning methods can be reduced to just a good wiping off of your guns.




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  10. Santa Fe River Stan pulls 3 with left hand & 1 with right hand.


    He goes over the top with the left hand ammo for first 3 shots and then finishes the 4th shot with the 1 round in his right hand.


    He's mighty good. I sure somebody can post a video of him shooting.




  11. JEDI Calico Mary,


    All those states you mentioned are top notch when it comes to clubs and the Cowboys/Cowgirls that shoot in those areas.


    The ONLY drawback to moving to Indiana is that you will have to put up with Purty Boy (ShyAnnie)... :lol:


    Also, a good deal of the clubs in those states are VERY GF indoctrinated. In other words, there are PLENTY of top notch GFer's at many of the clubs in those areas you are considering.


    Its not uncommon for the Ocoee Rangers (in Cleveland TN) or the Oak Ridge Outlaws (in Oak Ridge TN) to have 60+ shooters at a match with many GFer's, who also occupy about 50% of the Top 10 every month.


    And those clubs also have a few Cowgirl GFer's like Last Kiss and Anita Margarita.


    And as a bonus, you would get to see and shoot with some of those ornery OUTLAWS, who do it from the hip. Those folks (Cowboys & Cowgirls) are awesome.


    I wish you well in your search. I doubt you would be disappointed in any of those listed states, PLUS most areas of the South.


    And just think, in the warm weather months, you could get on a posse and be entertained by Slater, Purly and Widder..... :lol::lol::lol:




  12. USC 52

    PENN ST. 49



    WHEW, this game was a real donnybrook.

    When Penn St came out in the 3rd qtr and put 21 on the board in 5 minutes, I thought..."Katie Bar The Door'.


    But USC wasn't finished strutting 'their stuff' and prevailed.......... despite some terrible Ref calls.


    The USC player that was thrown out of the game deserves an apology from those refs. From the replay I saw, he dove over the quarterback and didn't even touch him.


    Great game.




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