Widder, SASS #59054
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I wouldn't be surprised if the person who 'thought up and originated' this plan may have gotten the idea from
one of the 'Road Runner/Coyote' cartoons. It does sound like something the Coyote would do and backfire
on him.
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In my humble opinion, Warden Callaway would be my 1st choice to help get info on Marlins and some of their
history in model designations.
To add to your list of models, don't forget the 39M (Mountie) model in .22
AND... don't forget the model 1897 .22. I think some of these models were designated the 'TEXAN', and had
octagon barrels.
EDIT: as for the 1894 models, most of those pistol caliber models have a loading gate port. BUT, the 1894 in .32 H&R
is solid with no loading gate on the side of the receiver but rather loads like a .22 rifle in the mag tube.
Its my understanding that the .32 H&R caliber was designed using the .22 magnum frame and receiver
which is absent of the loading gate.
..........Widder
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Gizzly country minimum carry would be the .460 Rowland.
Would prefer a hot loaded .44 mag or .45 Colt with proper BULLET selection for penetration.
And of course, ya gotta consider the .454 Casull, .460 and .500 S&W.
BUT..... my #1 choice would be a good 12 gauge pump or Beretta A300 or 1301.
..........Widder
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57 minutes ago, bgavin said:
After having a 4x bypass, I admit I am spooky about heavy recoil at the shoulder.
I've also read there is a correlation between this heavy recoil and detached retina.My neighbor has a Smith 460 that he simply hates.
He traded his beloved 454 to his brother for the 460.
It hurts his wrists so bad when he shoots the 460.
I suggested mouse phart loads so he could enjoy it.
Myself, I'd just dump the damn thing and be done with it.Don't like guns that are painful to shoot.
My 44 Alaskan with full house loads and Hogue Tamer grips is a pleasure to shoot.
My 44 Redhawk with factory grips... not so much. Not at all.Howdy Bgavin. I'm glad you saw this thread.
As you already know cause we've discussed it before, it took me over 2 years before I would shoulder my shotgun again.
After consulting with my heart doctor, he said that unless I had other symptoms of heart issues, It should be o.k. for
me to shoot shoulder guns again. I didn't seem to have any issues with shooting the SG or a thumping rifle.
BUT, I can sure understand your concerns and there will come a time when you'll know it feels right to shoot
some shoulder fired 'thumpers'.
Best regards and keep in touch.
..........Widder
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2 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said:
10 yds.
Hey TJB.
Yea, 10 yrds. My test was for velocities and not accuracy. BUT, I did place a 2" target at 10 yards to see
if my Point of Impact was the same as my Point of Aim. Basically, both pistols are capable of 'Minute of Snake Head'
accuracy at 10 yards......
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Howdy fellow Oak Ridge Outlaw.
I had a TIA about 20 years ago. Doc put me on Plavix, baby aspirin, and a couple other things since.
The ONLY known results from the TIA is that I have trouble remembering peoples names. My shooting skills,
body movements, eye sight, etc.... are the same but name recognition is horrible.
Nothing else changed. At 73, I still shoot GF and on a good day, I'm a good GF. I just don't have many 'good' days.....
Since the TIA, I've had stents put in both my carotid arteries and 5 heart stents. FOUR years ago, I had a double by-pass
and a pig valve to replace my normal valve. My normal Aorta Valve was all built up with plaque and had to
be replaced. All is well now and I still take my blood thinners, such as plavix.
I haven't had ANY known problems with Plavix......... BUT, I do understand some folks can get blood so thin that it
could seep thru their veins, etc.........
This is something the doctors check on periodically, or atleast that's what I've been told.
I really like my heart doctor, who has been the one to do all my stents. His name is Dr. Malcolm Foster and he
is with TENOVA at Turkey Creek. (West Knoxville). I think his 'group' is called 'E.TN Heart Consultants'.
Best wishes on staying healthy.
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PR
I've used 2 different Chrono's over the past few years and the results of the hot loads in the rifle are always
real impressive in BOTH of my Marlin .45's.
I've mentioned many times that a good hot .45 Colt load in a rifle will give results that mirror .454 Casull fodder
from a 7" pistol.
At 73, the only physical hinderance I seem to have is eye sight. So far, my hands, thumbs, etc..... still enjoy those
big 'thunder boomers'.
I will admit that the Marlin does have some noticeable felt recoil on the shoulder. But most big bore lever guns
do, especially with smokeless powder.
Glad you like the information.
........,,Widder
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5 hours ago, Warden Callaway said:
I've wasted time thinking about how hot you could load for the Ruger Old Army with conversion cylinders. But why bother? I have a Smith 29 in 44 Magnum. I have a three screw Ruger Blackhawk 45 Colt. I don't need this power in a handgun. Just take a rifle and be done with it.
For me, its comforting to know that I have a good handgun close by should a rampaging, charging Jurassic Groundhog
comes after me.
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Using load data from Hodgdon website load data, here are my recent results from some 'hot' loaded ammo.
Pistols were a 5.5" Ruger SBH Hunter, Mag-Na-Port'd.
A 7.5" Ruger SBH Hunter. (non-ported)
Marlin 1894 Cowboy cut to 16.5"
Velocity was chronographed 8 feet from muzzle
1st column: velocity from 5.5" Ruger
2nd column: velocity from 7.5" Ruger
3rd column: velocity from 16.5" Marlin 1894
4th column: Muzzle Energy for each velocity shown in 'bold'.
240 gr. XTP Mag. 27.0 LilGun
1336 1431 1970 950 / 1091 / 2067
240 gr. XTP Mag. 27.5 H-110
1181 1220 1760 743 / 798 / 1650
250 gr. XTP. 25.0 LilGun
1322 1318 1866 969 / 964 / 1932 (please note: average velocity in the 7.5" was lower than the 5.5")
250 gr. XTP. 26.0 H-110
1212 1245 1660 815 / 860 / 1629
CRIMP MOVEMENT: a test bullet was used to measure movement at 3 shots, 6 shots, 9 shots and 12 shots.
At original OAL, my test bullet was 1.643
After 3 shots, the OAL was 1.644
After 6 shots, the OAL was 1.651
After 9 shots, the OAL was 1.651
After 12 shots, the OAL was 1.651
Although the bullet slightly moved from recoil, it never moved out of the crimp groove.
I was very happy with my crimp consistency.
Other useful info:
My brass was .454 Casull brass, cut to .45 Colt length.
Primers were Small Rifle Magnum. (Casull brass uses Small primers)
There were NO pressure signs showing any flattened primers, BUT..... slightly sticky ejections from the Marlin
were experienced when firing the .240 gr. XTP Mag using 27.0 Lilgun powder.
I had NO split cases.
Because accuracy is subjected to the shooter, I will only say that I am well pleased with the accuracy of
all these reloads. At 10 yards, both Ruger's were hitting at the same POA.
I love shooting big bore pistols, but I must admit that shooting gloves are recommended.
..........Widder
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28 minutes ago, Krazy Kajun said:
And if you are really nice to @Tennessee williams he might just let you know the best nanner split joints too...and he won't charge you an arm or a leg for the information...just a chicken foot. 🤣
Kajun
Well, I just hope it ain't 'Chicken George's' foot...... 🤨
..........Widder
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Somethings in life get old. BUT..... having FUN never gets old.
And the TN State is one heck of a fun match, fun with friends and its actually a pretty nice fun venue with those local small towns
with their antique shops and eating places. I ain't talking about McDonalds or Wendy's.......... I'm talking about a restaurant that
serves some of the best foods you ever 'ett'. (Bell Buckle Cafe).
The Wartrace Regulators know how to put on a great match and host a great banquet. And with a little luck, ya might even
run into TN Williams and get a first hand experience of what a professional liar is all about..... ( I meant 'story teller)..... 😀
And who knows, ya might even see a few gunslingers from New Mexico.
Happy Trails, Y'all.
..........Widder
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ATOM or ADAM ?
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GOSH and Golly Gee!
I've posted video(s) of shooting my .460 Rowlands and 10mm semi-auto pistols. Those ain't even close to Cowboy.
But, it was shooting info and 'entertainment'. I plan to post more in the future.
I'm sure there are many Saloonaholics that aren't interested..... but some are.
..........Widder
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I've used the 'flash the bright lights' to oncoming traffic to indicate 'approach with caution'. Sometimes, it has been
because of a speed check ahead. BUT, mostly its used to warn the oncoming traffic they are approaching an area
that is unusually congested or an accident is ahead. However it may be intended, the traffic slows down, even if they
are within the speed limits.
..........Widder
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Abilene,
Many years back, I bought 2 bricks of CCI 'large pistol' primers that were sligtly oversized. Trying to prime my brass
on an RCBS 'auto-primer' unit was nearly impossible. I share this information because sometimes, although VERY rare,
primers can be over spec'd.
Before you proceed with all those other things, its an easy and simple check to mic your primers and see if they are
within specs.
..........Widder
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Them big ole rodents look like an East TN groundhog or something migrating out of Texas..... 😀
Better load up the Beretta 1301 with slugs.
..........Widder
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SJ,
Thanks for posting those videos. I enjoyed them and I am glad they are out there.
..........Widder
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Most of 'US' seem to form our opinions of folks based on YouTube videos. And we base our opinions on 'groups of people', like
LEO's, based on YouTube videos.
The problem is....... ONLY the negative videos are shown on YouTube. Nobody puts the good stuff on YouTube cause it doesn't
garner much attention.
My guess is that there are THOUSANDS of vehicle stops everyday and hundreds of those stops are probably being filmed
with a GoPro or Phone. Only some folks want to be put on YouTube so they stage a situation and make themselves look 'tough'
and put it on YouTube for the gullible YouTube watchers.
We all know there are bad LEO's among the many good ones. HECK, it ain't much different than politicians or even
Preachers or TV Evangelist.
I doubt we will ever see a YouTube video of an LEO giving some life support help to an elderly heart attack victim before
First Responder could arrive. Or delivering a new born from a screaming mother who didn't make it to the hopital
and get her epidermal before delivery. Those type of things don't seem to get filmed and put on YouTube.
Y'all have a good day.
And God Bless those in uniform who stand in harms way and take great efforts to help keep us safe.
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why not use a shotgun? I doubt even a Jurassic Rat would need much more than a
good smack from a 12 gauge.
..........Widder
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6 hours ago, watab kid said:
there is so much to say about these old movies but im just going to say i enjoy them all and yes those ladies were beautiful to be sure , growing up in the era of marlyn manroe and jane mansfield was one aspect of life but another was seeing those others on screen , lorretta young , the young barbara stanwyick , and so many others ,
im glad i lived in the era to see farah fawcewtt and barbara bach but there is something about the gals that came before them that stirred my blood
Agree.
When I watched the movie 'Pearl Harbor', I really loved the looks of how the actresses were dressed up and adorned to look the era.
Very classy looking.
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16 minutes ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:
I always figured if I was going to commit a crime, I’d pick up a bunch of brass from the local range and scatter it at the crime scene.
Yea..... I've thought the same thing. PLUS, I would consider using a revolver and still scatter a bunch of semi-auto brass
around. I would also consider leaving a Coke/Pepsi, etc... ..... OR, an empty DQ Banana Split bowl. 😀
..........Widder
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43 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:
Odd, I don't see any B-2's in the picture.
That's one of the mysteries of 'Stealth'. 😀
..........Widder
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My guess is that the majority of those officers are super nice guys who would normally NOT be in favor of
any kind of 'stop' check points. BUT, somebody on City Council or someone sitting behind a big oak desk
has decided to strut authority and has assigned the street LEO's a job to make it look like they are preventing
crime. Of course, downtown in the back alleys or on Main Street USA, a door is being busted open by
crooks trying to steal a home owners belongings.
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I would contact Snake Oil George out in Oklahoma. He does pistols with octagon barrels of various calibers. He might
be able to produce a rifle length, octagon barrel.
Good luck.
P.S. - Where did it split? If its out towards the muzzle, it might be salvageable by cutting off any length over 16 inches.
If its back towards the chamber, it can still be cut off, rechamsbered and threaded to the receiver........ all this assuming your
final barrel OAL is 16 inches or more. I think 16 inches is the legal minimum.
..........Widder
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It might be WHAA-A-AT...??
in SASS Wire Saloon
Posted · Edited by Widder, SASS #59054
Gremlin eggs!
They usually hatch under a full moon.
If you speak ill of someone while holding one of the eggs, they will get the 'Curse of the Gremlin' and
have very bad things happen to them during their life time.
..........Widder