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3 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
Okay, thanks for the clarification on the 41 Long Colt. So a 4 in 1 gun is possible, but not a 5. Nifty.
I'd bet there are ten or more 45 cartridges that can be shot in a .460 S&W magnum cylinder. Some are obscure and obsolete cartridges, and at least two are identical but have different designations - the .460 S&W magnum and the .45 Black Powder Magnum, differing only in smokeless vs black powder propellant. The only main match legal revolver I can think of right off would be the Magnum Research BFR .460, which is a 5-shooter, so you'd have to load 4, shoot, then load 1 more on the line. Or take the miss.
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Not Single Sixes, but I've got three of these 3-screw 357/9mm convertibles, but apparently didn't have the third one yet when this pic was taken.
When Ruger converts these to a transfer bar, there are no permanent changes or machining done on the gun, just parts swapped out, and the original parts are returned to you. One of mine was converted with the transfer bar "upgrade" when I bought it, so I found some original parts on eBay and converted it back - I wonder how many times Ruger has converted the same revolver more than once.
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460 S&W magnum, 454 Casull, 45 BPM, 450 Express, 45 Winchester Magnum, C45S, 41 Special, 357 Maximum... probably many others if I think on it a bit.
The C45S, although widely used, is quite unique in that it is a wildcat cartridge that I don't believe has never had a revolver or rifle specifically chambered for it.
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19 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:
OK for a range/field gun.
For SASS you'll want a shorter barrel.
About ten years ago, Deuce Stevens had a couple 7 1/2" .357 original model Vaqueros made up, and said he would never go back to a shorter length. I don't know if he stuck with them or not.
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Several years ago, I loaded up my car with 24 different guns in 24 different calibers and gauges to shoot a match with 4 different guns in 4 different calibers/gauges on each stage. With the consent of the posse and match director, I had to cheat on the shotguns and use a .410 and 28g to get six different shotgun gauges - .410, 28g, 20g, 16g, 12g, and 10g. Each rifle & revolver was in a different dedicated chambering, meaning if it was a .357 or .44 magnum, I didn't use .38's or .44 specials/.44 Russians. I finished with the dreaded one miss match.
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I have in the past, but I don't feel any of my present herd of .45's are stout enough, so I'm shooting up my remaining stock of nuclear loads in a Handi Rifle.
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"... main match legal"
OK, discounting inherited and non-SASS guns, and without going back TOO far... let's say we stay in this century ~
Twenty years ago, I had a friend give me an NEF single shot 12g shotgun from a storage unit she was cleaning out. The barrel was damaged beyond repair, and the stock was half gone, so I found a nickeled 20g barrel on eBay for $39.51, shipped, carved a new butt stock from a 2x6, and screwed on an old Ruger butt plate from the parts box.
Five days later, a neighbor gave me a Riverside Arms (Stevens) 12g SxS hammer shotgun with a broken stock and a mismatched hammer on the right side. A chunk spliced in, a bit of glue, some wooden pins, a bit of leather lace wrapped around the wrist, a few coats of Varathane or lacquer or somesuch, and it was good to go.
Also in '06, a new Uberti Model P Jr .38 spl for $20 in raffle tickets at a Cowboy Action shoot.
In '07, I got a Stevens 311 from someone on here for $100, shipped, with the disclosure the right barrel didn't always fire. I've had it apart more than once, and can't find anything wrong, so it's still intermittent on the right side.
In 2013, I bought three Pietta steel frame 1858 .44's online from Cabela's Black Friday sale @ $176.94 with a free "starter kit". Three guns showed up, but only two "starter kits", and my CC statement showed they only charged me for two of the guns, $353.88 - I called them not once, but twice, and was assured I was charged for all three. I double checked my CC statement, and watched for it for the next several months, but the charge for the third one never showed up.
2016 - a new Henry Evil Roy .22 as the grand door prize at the Montana state championship. Maybe call it $80 or whatever the entry fee was.
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I had a Chaparral 1876 .45-60 several years ago, and all my brass was cut down .45-70 - it worked just fine. The rifle was a POS.
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Visit a scrap yard and see if they'll let you do some scrounging. I got a small sheet of 5/8" AR, about 3'x5' for scrap price to cut my card suits & joker out of. You can always find scrap rounds of various sizes & thicknesses, and odd size scraps that be made into spinners and plate racks with a little creativity. Big pipe flange blanks work well, but when you get to 14"+, they're going to be really heavy. The two buffalo skulls are a little light, 3/8" I think, but they've held up. It's just me shooting, and I usually use Single Six .22's and a rimfire lever gun for practice, so they're not getting whacked by 20 shooters times six scenarios in a session, with .38's & .45's. What would that be... 10x20x6 = 1200 bullets?
Two of my shotguns targets are pieces of channel iron welded to a couple old wheels - they remain upright and don't fall. Another is a humongous popper built on part of an old go-cart frame, I think it was.
Old pressure bottles and pieces of well casing or large pipe are common - I've got three sections on t-posts to the right of the plate rack, and two more way back on the hillside, probably 40-50 yards away. "Bonus targets"
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About five years ago, I stopped at a garage/estate sale and bought a lifetime supply of CAS powders. All unopened. My buddy snapped up a dozen cans of Titegroup, also $5 ea. There were a bunch of assorted rifle powders too, but we were cashed out. I should have tried talking them down on the big jug of TB cuz it's only a five pounder, not eight.
During the height of the hysteria three or so years ago, I saw two 9oz cans of TB sell for $855.00 on Gunbroker, plus shipping.
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7 hours ago, Cusz M. Dutch SASS Life 55326 said:
Smoke seemed enough according to others.
That's the thing, all the smoke standard says is that your ammo must produce an amount of smoke comparable to a control round consisting of 1 cc GOEX 2F powder in a standard 38 special case with a "Federal standard primer", a 145 grain bullet lubed with SPG and the powder lightly compressed with a medium roll crimp.
It doesn't require you to shoot .38 special.
It doesn't require you to use 1cc of powder.
It doesn't require you to use Goex.
It doesn't require you to use 2f.
It doesn't require you to use a standard primer.
It doesn't require you to use a Federal primer.
It doesn't require you to use a pistol primer.
It doesn't require you to use a 145 grain bullet.
It doesn't require you to use SPG lube.
It doesn't require you to compress your powder.
It doesn't require you to use a crimp.
All it requires is that you use black powder, or an approved substitute, that generates the same amount of smoke as a control round assembled with this specific protocol.
So... if you can make a 9mm load, or any other legal cartridge for that matter, that uses less than 1 cc of black or legal sub, but produces at least the same amount of smoke as the control sample, you're good.
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How in the world did you come up with a 9mm case having a larger capacity than a .32 H&R mag??
These are both Starline cases, primed, and sized so no one can claim the .32 H&R case is expanded in an oversize chamber or somesuch. Powder is 1cc of AA#2, because it's dense and flows like water, and the volume of a cubic centimeter doesn't change with the material filling it. The dimensions remain static at 1cm x 1cm x 1cm, regardless. The .32 case has enough room to seat a bullet on a compressed charge of BP, barely. The 9mm case is heaped up and overflows with the same 1cc charge. THIS IS NOT RELOADING DATA! DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE A CHARGE OF 1CC OF SMOKELESS POWDER IN A .32 H&R MAGNUM OR 9MM LUGER! IT IS WAY OVER THE SAFE RECOMMENDED LIMIT! This is just to illustrate the difference in capacity between the two cases.
Case capacities are also listed online, and although they might vary slightly from source to source, the .32 mag is ALWAYS listed as having a larger capacity than the 9mm Luger.
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I've never tried it in pistol loads, but I've experimented with it in revolver loads. It wouldn't be legal for CAS BP categories because the case won't hold 1cc of powder under a bullet to meet the smoke standard, nor in Classic Cowboy because it's rimless and under .40 cal.
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Not just any ol' blackpowder pistols, but specifically cap & ball percussion pistols - no cartridge revolvers. That said, though, the one club around here who puts one on allows cartridge revolvers to lure a few more shooters. They run it as a split match, Cowboy or Plainsman and even then, only a small handful sign up for it, 4 - 6 shooters.
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My kid got arrested for smoking weed a few years back, in another town a hundred miles away, and tried calling me from the jail to bail her out. There was a 30 second pre-recorded spiel about a xx per minute charge and billing arrangement before the call would be connected - I guess that was long distance charges...? Maybe some sort of "service charge", I dunno, but guess what, she sat there for three days instead until she went in front of the judge.
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19 hours ago, watab kid said:
im planning to shoot my 1869 this season , ill just take the miss
If 1869 is a typo, and you meant 1860, it's not difficult to learn to quickly load a single round through the action.
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I typically write one check a month, to the electric company. It used to be the electric company charged extra to pay online, which is why I write a check every month. I don't know if they still do that or not.
My checkbook says I've written fifteen checks between 5-21-25 and today, 5-21-26 - the other three were for property taxes.
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About a dozen years ago, I was relaxing in my easy chair one night and felt something wet on my chin. I thought maybe I was drooling on myself.
I reached up to wipe it off and my hand came away bloodied.
No previous injury, no obvious cut or puncture or anything, and it took half an hour or so to get it to stop. No idea what happened.
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I think there was an 1869 Sharps, but it's a single shot and not legal as a main match rifle of course.
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10 hours ago, Barry Sloe said:
I noticed a LOT of huge tractors with massive implements in the fields.
There are huge tractors, then there's Big Bud.
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It depends greatly on what you're tying to grow and where you're trying to grow it. In my local area, the major crops are wheat and barley, but with half the cropland lying fallow every other year, a thousand acres may only
netgross $150,000/year. After income taxes, property taxes, crop insurance, equipment repairs, seed, fertilizer, spray, fuel, and so on, there isn't much left. (oops, thanks Alpo)I attend mandatory training every year to maintain a restricted pesticide license, and it's always struck me how ironic it is to be sitting with a small group of local farmers while the county agent conducts the training, and realize these men in their worn shirts and patched jeans with assets worth millions of dollars realistically can barely afford lunch at McDonalds afterward and a new pair of boots every spring.
Our former senator, Jon Tester, worked a family farm of a couple thousand acres and still had to become a congressman to get by.
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6 hours ago, Alpo said:
I've noticed as I've gotten older that my skin seems to have gotten thinner. I cut and I bleed much easier. What would be a simple Branch rubbing on my arm when I was a kid well now leave blood running from my elbow to my fingertips.
I'm in my 70's now, and on blood thinners. Sometimes when I'm out on the place spraying weeds, fixing fence, or whatever, I'll get a boo boo that just won't quit, so I have to knock off, go back to the house, and lay down with a towel.

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Sharps, anyone?
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A match that requires smokeless?