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Chili Pepper Pete 11917

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  1. Barry,  I guess I'm just looking down the road at where this category ends up.  I have shot Frontiersman almost exclusively since 2003 so I'm very loyal and dedicated to the cause here.  The problem I see is that the cap shortage is very real.  For component manufacturers caps are a niche market at best.  I have no inside information on this but it is logical that the market for percussion caps production is not a priority for these companies so our wait may be long and they may never come back.  Thats it.

    It just seems that maybe we should be looking for an alternative.  


    Best regards,




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  2. I was following a thread on here about the legalization of 209 primers for pistols in Frontiersman,  I disagree completely that by using 209s your basically turning a cap gun into a cartridge revolver.  With tuned percussion pistols you don't have any more FTF than a cartridge gun.  In the last 8 years I've maybe had 4 or 5 in a 100 plus matches.  The problem isn't the caps,  its people are lackadaisical about their setup.  Every competitive frontiersman spend hours making sure their pistols work consistently,  Its the most important part of the category and if you don't do it correctly,  well, you get what you get.  In my mind I am not sure how 209s are going to dramatically tilt the frontiersman world off its axis. They are harder to set off than Pistol primers and they are too hot for our intended use.  do they work, sure, are they ultra competitive,  I don't think so.   Next, I question the availability of good caps in the future.  Is Remington going to make caps in any quantity going forward,  who knows,  its been years since they have been available at any reasonable cost,  CCIs tend to be hit or miss on quality and RWS don't fit well on most nipples.  So,   what's the future look like for Frontiersman and Plainsman?

    This 209 conversion should be able to be modified for other pistols other than ROAs,  There may need to be some rule changes required for this to happen but why wouldn't it be worth it to save an original category?   I also think that it is short sighted to limit it to just 209 shotgun primers,  It should be all primers,  Just because a product already exists for 209s maybe there is a better alternative if someone would make one that worked with regular pistol primers.  Just some thoughts from someone who actually shoots the category and has a little bit of experience in doing so.  


    Best regards



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  3. Doc,


    Based on your Sass Number we started around the same time,  For me August of 96,   A lot has changes since then as far as the the shooting part of our sport over the years but the most important part for me remains the same,  Its the People.  We've gone from shooting small targets further out to up close and personal,  stage times have gone from 40 and 50 seconds to mid teens but the people haven't changed all that much.   I tell people who are interested in our sport that you can go to a monthly match and you shoot 5 stages for a total of 75 to 150 seconds of actual shooting time.   Your at the match for 5 or 6 hours,  you better like something else other than just the shooting.  IMO Action jobs and short strokes have had an effect on our sport but its minimal.  Real competitors are practicing more than we did back in the day,  they work hard at getting that fast and while slick guns help,  there is no gun modification that is going to make a shooter go from 25 seconds to 15 seconds,  not going to happen. 

     I miss the fun and silly things we used to do on stages but I don't see that ever coming back,  The game has changes,  people have gotten older and not comfortable with what we used to do.  But you know what,  I have all the memories and some of the friends from back then and I wouldn't change that for the world.  


    Best regards,



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  4. 3 hours ago, C.N. Double said:

    When I shoot Frontiersman, I just use the same rifle and shotgun I use for smokeless -- '73 rifle in .357 and 12ga single-trigger Baikal. It works great, and it gives me a reason to clean the long guns (occasionally). I've only ever shot ROAs, but I don't believe they are required to be competitive.


    IIRC, neither Chili Pepper Pete nor Dammit Olli shoot ROAs, but they are both excellent Frontiersman who compete at the highest levels, and they're great dudes too.


    Thanks CN for the kind words, and right back at you!       I do shoot ROAs,  a 73 carbine and either my 1887 or SKB.   There are many schools of thoughts about which pistols are the best but the most important aspect is "Reliability"   If you have any hope of being competitive at the top level of Frontiersman, your pistols have to work all the time as mentioned in other posts.  Rugers seem to be the easiest to tune but several top shooters use colt style and have perfected the tuning that matches any ROA I've seen.   Fight the urge to reduce hammer springs too much,  what works at home or practice isnt the same as match conditions as far as i'm concerned,  you will never feel the extra 2 pounds when the timer goes "beep"  I have messed around with 58s and while they fit my hands perfectly, i have never been able to keep them running as consistently as Rugers,  someone once told me that part of the problem with Rems is that there is no deflection of the gases at the cylinder gap so the gas is blasted right onto cylinder pin.  I could see what they were saying but never knew if it had merit.  Anyway  good luck and look forward to seeing how it goes.



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  5. Well Happy Birthday to SASS and The Wild Bunch.

    This is my 20th year playing and I could not be more grateful for all this sport has done for me. The friends I've made and the good times shared. Thank you and Happy 30th Birthday.


    Best regards,



  6. Marshal,


    I did the work on it. I have always liked the 38-40 cartridge and though it would be cool to build an octagon barrel single shot with an ejector for plainsman and just to have. I have found that I like 38-55 better so I figured I might as well sell it to someone who likes 38-40


    The gun shoots great, opens and closes easy and the ejector tosses the casings as it should. I also added a notch next to the chamber mouth to pry a stuck case out should it ever occur. As for group size I have never put it on paper. I hit a steel 20" target at 50 yards off hand 9 out of 10 shots and called it good. Let me know if you have any other questions or comments.


    Best regards,



  7. Price Reduced I have for sale a beautiful H&R Handi Rifle converted to 38-40 with ejector and a 19" octagon barrel. Its the perfect companion gun for those that love the 38-40. Rifle started as a 20 Gauge Topper and was stubbed and rebarreld with a Green Mountain Octagon barrel. The rifle sports a carbine style rear sight and a 3/16 Marbles gold bead front. The wood is real checkered walnut with a case colored butt plate. The case color on the receiver is near perfect and the barrel was cold blued (it looks very nice).

    Looking to get $ 600.00 shipped to your FFL or pick up at Winter Range





    Thanks for lookin


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