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Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217

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  1. 1 hour ago, Rube Burrows said:

    That's a great photo. What type of shells are you shooting through yours? The plastic shells melting with the black powder much? 

    The photo was taken by Black Jack McGinnis. He is the usual photographer for EOT and Convention, when they had one.


    Those are extremely light smokeless loads in Winchester shells.


    I normally shoot BP in it with Silver Remington shells.

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  2. 7 hours ago, Alpo said:

    It frequently amazes me how different people can see the same thing, but see something different.


    Here we have Tom, sitting in his car eating his McDonald's take out. When he's through he says out the car window to Joe the sidewalk sweeper. "Hey, is there a trash can around here close?"


    Joe tells him to just toss the trash down on the sidewalk, and he will sweep it up in his little dustpan on the stick. Tom says COOL, and tosses his trash out, and Joe sweeps it up.


    Then along comes Billy Badass, all filled with righteous indignation and roid rage. Grabs the dustpan on a stick and throws the trash back in Tom's car. He doesn't know what's going on, but he certainly going to step in and help. Tom starts to get out of the car. Billy Badass kicks the car door shut.


    I kept waiting for the flash of light, followed by Billy Badass bouncing off the sidewalk with blood pouring out of the hole in his face.


    The point of my little scenario - Billy Badass did not know what was going on. But then, neither do you. But y'all have decided that it's a good thing that Billy Badass was over there to give Tom a hard time. Y'all have decided that Tom was a bad guy.


    Yes, it is possible that Tom was being a jerk. But you don't know that.


    I think most people based their opinions on what they saw; not on their thoughts of what may have happened.

  3. 1 hour ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:

    Allie you have been to enough TG meetings to know about the moving while shooting issue.  That fact that SASS members shoot W3G, IPSC or anything else without straying from the "party line" really has little to do with whether W3G style shooting is going to be allowed at SASS matches.  That style of shooting is totally outside the party line.

    There is much more to be gleaned from W3G than "moving while shooting."


    I like:

    painting of targets between shooters

    no scenarios, just shoot the targets as you see them

    no need for counters, it is obvious which targets were hit



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  4. 10 hours ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said:

    As far as Western 3 Gun, you had to shoot it as they did in Piru with most of the targets having the bonus knock out and some targets with the overlay that allowed multiple hits on one target. And yes each stage had an individual bay that allowed downrange movement. That allowed you to get the full experience of what W3G was and could be.


    If you tried shooting it with cardboard targets so you could score bonuses it wasn't the same experience. It required a lot of targets and would be a big expense for a club to start from scratch. Expense was the biggest issue with W3G having a chance to grow. Most that did get the chance to shoot it in Piru loved it.


    As you can see in the video, Bud is not sprinting from position to position but he is moving and shooting at the same time. There is much more running at full speed (for those capable of it) in USPSA.  But running or shoiting on the move is never required, it is just allowed.

    I had a "blast" at my first W3G match at Piru. I had a shoot out for last place and I wasn't last (did I win or lose, LOL). It was so much fun. I had shot W3G before with cardboard targets. There was no comparison to a match with metal targets at Piru.


    Any club that has dedicated berms, should give it a try. The metal targets could easily be used for SASS. It would bring in a breath of new life to SASS!


    PS IIRC Misty has even shot W3G and Hipshot has no objection to it. So, you can try it without straying from the "party line."

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  5. I find the following perplexing.


    Usually, a clarification is posted by PWB. There may be some grumbling; but, the clarification is usually accepted. Sometimes, he takes the "grumbles" to the ROC before everyone accepts the clarification.


    He has clarified that a LTO or person on the loading bench is required to check another person's guns. Why is this continuing to be ignored or misunderstood? 


    My answer is, as I stated or implied in my first post on this thread, many people will not be placated with a clarification. They require a specific statement in the SHB that a LTO or similar is required.


    It is that simple. Why does the ROC balk at this? Maybe, because the "rule" or "clarification" is so unpopular that it isn't misunderstood at all. It is ignored and the ROC fears taking steps to mandate it. They only discuss it when forced to do so.


    As this is a recurring topic of discussion and discontent, I feel that requiring a LTO should be put to a vote of the TGs. If they vote to no longer require a LTO or to require a LTO, either way, an update to the SHB should be required.

  6. 41 minutes ago, Captain Bill Burt said:

    My thinking exactly. So I just loaded my guns and shot a stage with no LTO. What’s the penalty?

    I was on Snakebite's posse at an annual match. He said it would be a SDQ for failure to follow loading or unloading procedures.

  7. 1 minute ago, Yul Lose said:

    I would question whether the party line being in favor of a LTO is true, if it were there would be a rule stating that there is a LTO at every match. SASS isn’t the Wire and the Wire isn’t SASS. None of the four clubs down here that I frequent have a LTO. Occasionally a posse may have one but there are no LTO’s, designated or show the next shooter.

    Hi Yul,


    I based that comment on earlier posts stating that PWB (spokesman for the ROC), Snakebite (former chair of the ROC), and the ROC have all said one is required.



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  8. Hi Ike and others,


    I've never favored a LTO. After all, the firing line is expected to be hot. I've never disagreed to an ULTO as the rest of the range is expected to be cold.


    However, the party line is that there must be a LTO, whether dedicated or the next person in line to shoot.  The only way to conformity seems to be an amendment to the SHB.





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  9. PaleWolf (spokesman for the ROC), Snakebite (former chairman of the ROC), and the ROC indicate (in no uncertain terms) that the LTO is required.


    Could the resolution of this recurring dilemma be implemented by adding unequivocal verbiage to the SHB?


    The ROC has historically balked about adding to the SHB. However, when a "safety rule" is continually ignored or misunderstood, the time has come to clarify it in writing.

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  10. We had a stand-offish stray. One day he showed up and talked to and rubbed against Hubby. Hubby told me to get him some food. Of course, being the sucker I am, I did.


    Another day, ditto, except he sprayed a chair. Hubby put a bed out for him.


    Next time visiting, he had a flea collar and had been brushed. So, we fed him again and named him Bandit. We haven't seen him in a few days. 


    He's so cute. If he were mine, I wouldn't let him run around at night and would have him fixed.


    PS This is the current status.

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