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Posts posted by Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329
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I will probably run the Henry as is for now and see how much I like it before changing. I m going more for style points than trying to be a speed demon. As for the cap guns I just don't want to have to fiddle with a jammed up gun due to a cap falling into the works. I did play with some stock 1860s a while back and remember how much a pain it was when that happened or how much it hurt when a cap fell in between your hand and the grip!
Once you get them tuned & set-up, they are as reliable as cartridge guns.
Many folks polish the hammer face with a brush at each loading to prevent caps from falling back into the action.
All my cap guns have either the Manhatten conversion or cap rakes to prevent that from happening.
Basic smoothing & tuning, & Slix or Treso nipples and Remington #10 caps, and yer good to go.
I've heard from reliable folks that Track of the Wolf SS replacement nipples are good, but I've not used them, so I won't recommend them.
But really, if shooting cap guns is yer version of a great time (It is for me!), then take the time/effort to get them set up properly & go to town!
There are many folks here on the Wire who know how to do this/have done this, so good help is not hard to find.
I can't help you with a hot cap that falls between the gun & yer hand.
Happens occasionally, but not frequently.
If you stay with the .45 Henry rifle, keep a can of moose milk or spray lube with you for when the carrier gets stiff from fouling during a match.
(Never happens with a 44-40)
And be prepared to remove a side plate & wipe down & oil the innards after every match due to blowback gettin' in there.
(Never happens with a 44-40)
Henry Rifles are the best!
I have 4 of them, 3 in 44-40 & a .45 set up for 45 Cowboy Special.
It's all about FUN, & cap guns & Henry Rifles are more fun!
--Dawg
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Yep, sell the 45 & buy a 44-40.
Yule be happy you did
--Dawg
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Both are semi-retired
I do not know how much work either is accepting
Rowdy works out of Lee's Gunsmithing in Orange, CA
He does action work on cap guns
I don't know if he still does cap guards or not.
Cap guards are a replacement piece in the recoil shield, with a slot in it that prevents a spent cap from falling into the action.
Contact Coffinmaker here: http://www.sassnet.com/forums/index.php?showuser=12567
I don't know what, if any work he is accepting.
--Dawg
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In my experience, Pietta barrels and cylinders will fit other Pietta frames, and Uberti barrels and cylinders will fit other Uberti frames.
But the brands don't interchange.
I have Pietta brass frames I would sell, if yer interested.
CVA is an importer, not a manufacturer.
Look on the gun for manufacturer marks.
Here is the key: http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/MBPProofmarks1.pdf
--Dawg
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Hey Rattler:
Let's see.......................44s, Birdhead grips, short barrels, Rowdy Yates capguards.......I'm gettin' jealous!!!!
--Dawg
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Spent the day with him yesterday, mostly in the shop.
He performed an amputation on my 16 gauge Swedish Hammer gun to make it into a coach gun that any stagecoach shotgun rider would be proud of.
Gonna be my "fun-gun" with brass shotshells & black powder (naturally).
Was a good off-season day!
--Prairie (what's ridin' shotgun) Dawg
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That's what I thought, but I believe in the CYA principle!
Good luck with the sale
--Dawg
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Hey Pit Bull Tex:
If it is really unfired & $425 shipped, I will take it.
If that is a typo, (from post #1) and you really meant $525, I'll pass
Thanks
--Dawg
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Post #1:
Ruger old army ,7 1/2" barrel,adj. sights,BLUE.Unfired.Pictures to email.$550.00 shipped and insured.Or Best Offer.$425.00 shipped and insured now.
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Charlie wants a font this size!
Yer gettin' old Charlie!
(Me too!)
If the font just needs to be bigger, I do what Garrison Joe sez, push CONTROL +
If I have something I can't read, I copy it and paste it into Word & change the font there.
Stay warm!
--Dawg
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Prayers & condolences to you, your family & friends from Dakota Skipper & the Dawg
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Thanks for the update.
Prayers continue from Dakota Skipper & the Dawg
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Prayers & condolences for family & friends from Dakota Skipper & the Dawg.
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Yep, he can shoot that at his practice range.
Too many safety issues in my opinion.
Not the least of which is, during the heat of the action, forgetting not to put his hand in front of the cylinder.
And time issues, making everyone else wait, as Larsen stated
Like shooting a ML rifle or shotgun, I think these do not belong at a match.
However, if someone were to set up a ML side match.......I might be tempted to bring my Remington carbine, a ML rifle & shotgun or two
--Dawg
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Actually with a conversion cylinder, there is much less manipulation
You drop in the 5 rounds, put on the backing plate, and put it in the gun
With a cap gun you have to individually install the 5 caps and then seat them
Then install the cylinder in the gun
There are so many better and safer ways of capping the gun that I would wonder about a shooter who wants to cap the cylinder off the gun
And yes he should replace the nipples with Treso or Slix
I've heard that track of the wolf stainless are good, but I have never used them
Treso/Slix and Remington number 10 caps are the ticket
--dawg
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Too dangerous IMHO
Most of us use cappers
Split Rail, a national and world champion, uses his fingers to put caps on the nipples
He always has
But the cylinders are in the guns
My short stubby Italian fingers won't let me do that
I wouldn't share the loading table with a shooter who took the cylinders out to cap them
Too many chances that something would go wrong
Just my two cents
--Dawg
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Good Evening:
Just saw this on Facebook & thought I'd pass it along
--Dawg
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I think I'll stay in & build a BIG fire in the woodstove!
Only go outside to get more logs!
Actually, Dakota Skipper & I are using the time to assemble a new weaving loom that arrived yesterday from Sweden.
Dining room? What dining room?? It's a weaving room!
--Dawg
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I have 6 or 8 of them
7 R & D style
1 Kirst
45 Colt, 45 Schofield, 45 CS works fine out of all of them
--Dawg
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BUMMER!!!!!!
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Yep, they did that to me too.
Seems to be the way of the world with these big chain stores.
Frustrating
--Dawg
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Way to go Kaya!
You're a fine example of the young people in our sport today!
I always love shooting with you & Slim!
--Dawg
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I plan on coming
Even if it's cold, Chuckwagon Pam's coffee will be hot.
And I don't want to miss spending a day with my friends
--Dawg
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1860s (Rifle and pistols)
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It's going to be different, that's for sure.
Have not shot it yet, but I think it will be a hoot.
I'm slow anyway, so it will compliment my shooting speed.
Pair it up with some good cap guns & one of my Henry rifles & have a ball!
--Dawg