Creeker, SASS #43022
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23 minutes ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:
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you're correct - I missed it.
By far the most "complete" performer of the silent movie era. The movies had actual plotlines and invested stories; as opposed to most that were a string of over animated vignettes existing solely to place the actors into a situation whether germane to the story or not.
Yes, like most silents; there was no shortage of facial mugging - but Lloyds felt like heightened acting instead of just caricature.
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All these posts and no mention of the greatest silent film star of all time - Harold Lloyd?
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The Creeker Crew
Creeker #43022
Shooting since 2000
Match Director Eldorado WOOLY Award for Match of the year
Jedi Gunfighter of the year
Desert Scorpion #88066
Shooting since 2005 (when she was 5)
Top 10 in Category at EOT 2019
Painted Lady #106136
Shooting since 2017
Never handled a gun before hooking up with me and then dragging her off to SASS
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On 1/4/2017 at 0:12 PM, Sedalia Dave said:
Wife got hit in the thigh one day so hard it left a bruise through her jeans. Se was a good 20 feet behind the firing line when it happened and it hit hard enough that thought she had been shot.
Personally I think more splatter comes from targets that are WAY TOO CLOSE. The current trend of pistol targets at less than 2 yards and SG KDs at only 5 is going to create a lot of splatter.
Splatter is caused by angle and condition of targets (badly angled/ pitted or dinged surfaces) - composition of bullet (jackets, hard cast) - configuration of stands (legs/ hangers interfering and/ or redirecting splatter direction) - composition of ground (splatter into gravel or hard surfaces that redirect or splatter themselves)
It is NOT caused by distance.
If you are maintaining that Incidents of splatter (at the firing line) that are caused by these factors may be "slightly" alleviated by adding distance - you may be correct.
BUT...
Your wife was struck by a round TWENTY feet to the rear of the firing line.
Another thread mentioned a piece of lead traveling two stages over.
No projectile loses enough energy in three to five yards to change from bruising and drawing blood to "Shoo fly, get away from me".
So how far out exactly are you going to move the targets to "fix" the problem?
Another poster dramatically implored the OP to not let his wife shoot the targets unless the targets were set at SASS distances.
But a target that splatters and injures people, drawing blood, wounding posse members at 4 yards will not MAGICALLY stop doing so when placed at 7 yards.
So instead of placing targets out at distances that most dont want to shoot at... (and that are only a band aid for a different issue)
Wouldn't it really be better to actually find out why the splatter is happening and correct that?
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No need to remind GF or any other category what their limitations are.
Jefro
Relax-EnjoyOk, then answer the initial question.
If a supported shooter or a duelist grounds pistol one and then proceeds to shoot their rifle and shotgun.
Then shoots pistol two and THEN holsters both pistols.
Are you calling a penalty for failing to holster at the conclusion of the pistol string?
Is a pistol string all rounds from both pistols or does the inclusion of other guns between the pistol create two separate pistol strings?
It is a "possible" action and I do not see a definitive answer in the books.
All I really want to do is get the call correct; regardless of what the call ends up being.
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I was working on the stages for the Eldorado Cowboys "Best Shoot by a Dam Site" when I had a "hmmm" moment.
The stage I was working on contains split pistols.
As a matter of fact, the firearm sequence is
pistol-shotgun-rifle-shotgun- pistol.
So I decided to make it a single position stand and deliver; allowing the Gunfighters to draw both pistols, shoot five, ground the pistols and return to them as needed.
Easy enough, we do it all the time.
But then it got me to thinking about other categories and choosing to ground their pistols.
The rules allow the 1st pistol to be grounded and the 2nd pistol to be shot (completing the pistol string) before holstering either pistol.
In my sequence of split pistols; when does the pistol string end?
Could a shooter choose to ground their first pistol, shoot the other firearms and then shoot their 2nd pistol and then holster their 1st grounded pistol at the end of the stage?
Or because there are other firearms in play; does this create two separate pistol strings and require a shooter to holster pistol number one before firing a different type of gun?
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In case anyone was interested...
Exploding cans of shaving cream. APPROVED.
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Just as a point of reference...
I'm currently trying to get the range to approve shooting pressurized aerosol cans of shaving cream.
Barber shop and aprons anyone?
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I could post left handed videos of what not to do.
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Appreciate the nice words. We are going to try and make it "fun".
Cause honestly, and sometimes we all forget this...
If it ain't fun; then why exactly are we doing it?
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I have a blue car. It needs a new transmission. Can anyone help?
Let's see...
Yes, we can place a GM 350 turbo tranny in your vehicle.
Might have to replace the engine, rear end, suspension and surrounding chassis as well to make it fit, but it can be done.
Might have to slightly modify a few other things as well.
And the cost possibly could be a bit high, but doggone it - we will get a new transmission in there for you.
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Gamer!!!
Hey, between bullet and powder that's almost 108 grains added to the cartridge case. And figure five in each pistol and ten in the rifle...
That's a couple thousand grains per stage.
What am I? Hercules?
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Wow. You guys are amazing.
My light little 105 gr 38 specials cost 8 cents a piece.
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Left handed 97 shooter.
Sweep across belt, pull four shells with right hand. Press lowermost shell into port and then grasp shells and forearm together to cycle action. Fire and open action, press next lowest shell into port. Repeat until hand is empty.
Minimal trips to the belt.
But from 1000s of rounds of 12g brass scraping against them... the forearms on my 97s look like an enraged beaver attacked.
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Put your feet/ hands/ body where they belong "before" the beep.
Amazing how much time wasting movement and repositioning happens after the beep and before the first bang.
One of my favorite training mantras is "anything you can get done off the clock is faster than anything you can do on the clock"
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I don't know why everyone is afraid to take their rifles apart to clean, and inspect them. I've not worn my rifle by disassembly, or hurt it's performance.
It's not that we are afraid to.
There's no need to and I have better things to do.
And I own a gun shop...
I have seen a whole lot more guns walk thru the door in boxes because of (attempted) cleaning; than I have for lack of cleaning.
As for the demons attacking the clean gun and it not running; if YOU have never reassembled something incorrectly or forgot to tighten a screw... Good for you.
For the rest of us mistake prone mortals; we like to ensure things function properly under match conditions before failures are reflected on a major match scoresheet.
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Actually "clean" my competition guns 2x a year. Wipe them down every so often if I happen to think about it.
And I will NEVER shoot a major match with a clean gun.
I am a firm believer that more guns are damaged by "cleaning" than have ever been harmed by lack thereof.
I don't change the oil in my car every time I drive it; I'm certainly not cleaning my guns every time I shoot them.
My opinion only and many others think otherwise.
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My 2 cents and worth exactly what you pay for it.
I usually use Winchesters because that is what is in stock most often.
I prefer Remington's, because "to me", they seem to seat easier (less effort) in to the cases. Loading for three shooters - anything that eases the task is appreciated.
I also like S&B, but they are not always available. The S&B are slightly undersized to seat in S&B brand cases, so they seat easily into other brands of cases. Again, less effort.
Everything I shoot is "tuned and lightened", but not to the point of primer required specificity. Wouldn't own a gun that was unreliable.
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It will be a Colt without anything that made Colt special.
It will be overpriced, under finished and desperately hoping the cachet of it's name distracts you with nostalgia.
Praying that you fail to realize that without hand fitting and deep blue polishing there is no longer any reason for its existence.
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I think we can all agree on a few points...
A 73, a Marlin, a 92 are better guns for CAS.
But to insult a mans choice of equipment or what HE wants to do with HIS money is not the cowboy way.
Remember that whole freedom thing we go on and on about?
If you can help; then help.
If you can't add anything besides running down the mans choices; then perhaps remaining silent or moving on to the next thread is a good choice.
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It's so much more than a 'Vette... I can squeeze more terrified, screaming passengers in the Min-van!!!
Understandable.
Whats the old joke?
I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my Grandpa - Not screaming and crying like all the passengers in his car.
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most shooters can not out run a 92.Deuce Stevens and Possum Skinner can run a 92 faster than the a lot of cowboys can run a SS 73 or 66 or a marlin.
Pit Bull, this is not intended as insult to you; but the above is one of my pet peeves when folks talk about equipment for this game.
Most folks cannot out drive the capabilities of their family mini van.
But I guarantee they will be faster in a Corvette.
Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart can likely drive that mini van faster than most could drive the Corvette.
If economics, aesthetics or "John Wayne carried one" is your reason to use a 92, then great.
But just because in the hands of some of the best shooters in the world they can run... That does not make them equitable to a Short Stroked 73.
Any more than a mini van is equitable to the Corvette.
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People change categories all the time. Sometimes to increase their competition; sometimes to run away from competition.Moving into the other category is optional. Nobody is being removed to anywhere. If there were a gunfighter who you stood near zero chance of beating in your category who decided to move to B western, would you feel insulted or somehow robbed when you moved up a place?
We already have too many categories that allow the dividing and diluting the level of talent in any singular category.
Creating yet another division specifically designed to segregate and isolate the most talented is not a move in the right direction.
Anything that creates lesser competition is, in my opinion, to be avoided.
And, in direct answer to your question.
Yes. If I am not the best gunfighter at the shoot; and my "victory" or improvement in placement within gunfighter is solely because the better shooter didnt compete with me... Than a win is not really any accomplishment.
Winning only means something when compared to the challenge.
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I'm confused.
Adding more divisions that remove the best from each category to compete against each other...
AND allows another person (who cannot do so with the better shooter in place) to "win" the original category is the very definition of modern T Ball mentality.
I would rather place 2nd (or 3rd, 4th, etc.) from this day forward than to ever "win" because my competition was removed.
The top shooters already have a category in which they compete against each other; it's called overall.
Removing talent from a given category, so a different shooter "may" win is insulting and demeaning to those remaining shooters.
And to anyone that winning is important; they wouldn't want to win that way.
Placing in a category of champions carries infinitely more value than a win in a category devoid of talent.
Especially if the talent that I should have been competing against has been artificially moved to another category for no other purpose than diluting the talent level in the category left behind.
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Hey, Harleys DO NOT LEAK.
They are just highly territorial and mark their spot.