Creeker, SASS #43022
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This is why (imo) this is a poorly worded, poorly thought out and poorly applied rule.
This is the ONLY rule in our game where the subjectivity of "shooters intent" must be determined (or matters).
But yet - it is the greatest time penalty (short of DQ).
EVERY other rule is based around objective, measurable "result".
Shooter loads too many rounds in the rifle - penalty is assigned (doesn't matter why).
Shooter breaks the 170 - we assign penalty (doesn't matter why).
Shooter drops their gun to the ground - we assign penalty (doesn't matter why).
There is no place for rules that view the exact same action and then assign differing outcomes.
Either make SOG a definable infraction (or series of infractions) that can be consistently applied via review of the shooters observable action or do away with it.
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I run Mobil 1 full synthetic in everything I own.
We have some customers in our shop that request Royal Purple or Amsoil; (both very good oils as Schaffers is as well {overpriced imo - but very good}).
Most every hi end synthetic oil company states NOT to do add in oil treatments.
If you believe your vehicle is going to be pushed harder than a "normal" street vehicle; there are off road high sheer racing formulas available (from Mobil 1, Redline, Royal Purple, etc.) - which is a better choice than simply adding unknown percentages of matrial via additives.
Go to a racing oil or decrease your change intervals - but generally theres no need for aftermarket consumer additives in a synthetic oil.
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That's one of the reasons I live in Las Vegas.
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13 minutes ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said:
My own personal example is my Browning BAR Mk. III. It's a great rifle. But it's not a BAR. In the first place, it's not automatic, it's semiauto, so why call it automatic? Especially today, when the public confuses semi-automatics with automatics.
You mean your Browning Bolt Action Rifle?
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20 minutes ago, Red Gauntlet , SASS 60619 said:
they have nothing to do with the original Henry or Winchester, its creator. They use weasel words to make it seem so, without actually saying it.
So I assume you would NEVER purchase a Chrysler product - which have NOTHING to do with the original manufacturer.
Or a Jeep.
Or Craftsman tools.
Never drive thru a McDonalds.
And you certainly would never buy a Uberti rifle that has no relation to the Winchester.
Or a Pietta revolver.
Or for that matter - standing on that principle - you would NEVER EVER EVER buy a Winchester product.
Afterall; Winchester was purchsed by Olin - then purchased by US Repeating Arms and licensed off to Miroku.
So the current "company" has nothing to do with - no relationship with the original company.
But they certainly imply they do.
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So by this logic - we should feed the poster to our dogs.
Because Alpo is a canned wet dog food - not an internet poster with interesting views.
Sometimes, multiple things can have the same name.
Honda lawnmower - Honda Civic - Honda Gold Wing.
I certainly wouldn't refuse to buy a Honda generator because its not a step thru scooter.
Sometimes, generations of products evolve while the name remains consistent.
The 1953 Corvette is certainly not the same car as a 2024 model and even more removed from the electric E Ray.
The Military & Police firearm of yesterday (38 spl. revolver) has evolved to encompass the equipment used today by Military & Police (full size semi auto pistols and AR platform rifles).
Sometimes the name is to evoke and carry on the mission from the original.
The original Maverick was a cheap, entry level car. But no one buys cars anymore. So the current Maverick is a cheap, entry level pickup truck.
The Chief Special name evokes a small carry gun for concealment and carry by a plainclothes "Chief".
Whether a 5 shot revolver or small polymer 9mm semi auto - they serve the same mission and carry the same name.
So yes - you're weird.
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12 hours ago, Pat Riot said:
You’ve shot their revolvers?
I look at any newer company like this. Ruger started off with a .22 semiauto. Look where they are now.
Davis Defense started off making AR butt stock tube collars with sling loops.
Glock started off making knives and other things out of polymer for the Austrian army.
I think I will wait and see how reviews go on it before tossing the idea in the trash.
And KelTec makes some decent guns as far as I can tell. I have owned a couple that have been wonderfully reliable b
All of the companies you list started out making a quality product and transferred that quality mindset forward as they expanded.
Obviously, I've not shot their revolvers yet.
But I have handled, sold and fired examples of their gun making.
Based on those experiences - I can make some reasonable assumptions.
I may have to eat crow when the Diamondback turns out to be built like a Ruger, perform like a Smith and be as collectible as a Colt.
But I wont be surprised when I'm right.
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8 hours ago, Pat Riot said:
posted info on this above, but I have to admit, this is a sharp looking revolver.
Diamondback had its new .357 SDR revolver on the shooting line. Coined the Self-Defense Revolver for its size and power, this small hand cannon is one of the lightest single-action/double-action six-shot .357 magnums on the market at just 1.3 pounds. (Photo: Chris Eger/Guns.com)
Some good info on that revolver here. I do believe I want one.
https://diamondbackfirearms.com/sdr/I have handled and shot their semi auto pistols.
Aint a chance that I would want their revolver offerings.
Diamondback will make you look at Kel Tec with a positive opinion.
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Prayers and thoughts from the Creeker crew. Get well 12 Mile.
Creeker, Painted Lady, Desert Scorpion
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2 hours ago, PowderRiverCowboy said:
tubby cowboy in white tennis shoes
Wow - I'm impressed; the first thing you've said with any factual basis.
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36 minutes ago, PowderRiverCowboy said:
Yeah I know buttercup we had multiple as well as a Chinook But thanks Capt Obvious .
So in the future when you try to call someone a liar . There just may be people that have done more than playing cowboy
I'm sure that's true.
But I aint convinced its you.
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On 1/19/2024 at 7:30 AM, PowderRiverCowboy said:
Ever see 3.2 Billion fresh made dollars in a Blackhawk .
No.
And at 10 tons per billion (if in 100 dollar bills) neither have you.
3.2 billion in the largest denomination bill printed = 32 tons = 64,000 pounds.
The 20,000 pound capacity (including fuel and crew) of a Blackhawk is a teensy bit under that.
So, in the future, when trying to convince us that you have secret knowledge the rest of us are not privy to.
Make up stuff that is a little more difficult to research.
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2 minutes ago, DeaconKC said:
Yes, ammo for the 30 is easy to find at this time. Of course, no one knows what cartridges will still be popular in 10 years, but a strictly self-defense gun will probably be adequately served with 4-5 boxes of ammo over it's life.
4-5 boxes of Defensive ammo - possibly.
But what about the practice ammo?
I'm a firm believer in minimum 50 rounds of practice per carry gun monthly.
Keeps muscle memory fresh and gives confidence that the gun continues to cycle and fire correctly (as opposed to the carry queens that never get fired or cycled.)
I cannot count the number of "carry guns" that don't work at CCW qualifying because the last time it was fired or cycled was 5 years ago at their last class.
Action full of varnished oils and pocket lint.
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The EZ series of guns is easier to rack.
The shields are striker fired - the equalizer is hammer fired (albeit internally hammered).
I bought an Equalizer for my wife - liked it so much; bought one for myself.
Ours are in 9mm - ammo is plentiful and "cheap" and there are no shortage of defensive loadings or bullet choices.
Some calibers come along as evolutions or "improvements" upon existing rounds - some are created out of the air because of perceived need and some are created to sell you another gun/ another caliber.
30 super carry doesnt do anything that an existing caliber doesn't already.
My recommendation would be an EZ or Equalizer in 9mm.
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15 minutes ago, Griff said:
+1 to Creeker, all correct. My problem with Henry Repeating Arms goes back to when they advertised their Henry Big Boy as SASS Legal before ever asking if it was. Dishonest at worst, simply fulfilling the mantra about assuming at best.
Honestly.
I think (with zero evidence to support or back up my "think") that faux pas "may" have had more to do with some prior SASS management as it did with Henry.
If you recall - there was a certain member of the Wild Bunch that went "poof" after some business dealings.
Just idle speculation; but (based on rumor, rumblings and innuendo) I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were assurances made and then reneged upon that were not Henrys fault.
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11 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
The other criticism of the the HENRY Big Boy is how their advertising heavily implies that they are the same company, or at least somehow connected to the same company that made the original Henry back in 1860, which is just not the case. Some folks take issue with this perceived dishonesty. I can understand this criticism. I know for a fact that my brother, who was not a Cowboy shooter, was convinced that Henry Repeating Arms Company, was in fact the same company one run by Tyler Henry.
Can we do away with some of these fallacies?
There was NEVER a Henry firearms company prior to the current one.
The company was the New Haven Firearms company owned by Oliver Winchester.
And was only called as such because Winchester believed (even back then) that having his name on a firearms company would damage the public image of his primary income (clothier).
B.Tyler Henry did not / nor did he ever own a firearms company.
Henry was a foreman; a supervisor - a clever man, admittedly but never owned the company.
There was NEVER a Henry rifle AND the 1860 model was NOT designed by Henry.
The so called Henry rilfle is a New Haven model 1860 repeating rifle.
The design for the 1860 was based on patents for the Volcanic pistol designed by Smith & Wesson (before they were the S&W we know them as) - these patents and design were purchased by Winchester.
The designs were provided by Winchester to Henry (again foreman - not owner) and Henry (per legend) saw the potential in upsizing them to a rifle platform.
His credit should be for the vision of using the design for a rifle AND the adaption of the design to that purpose.
The courts decided a long time ago that it wasn't his design and it wasn't his company when Henry attempted to sue Winchester over ownership and credit.
No one with any knowledge of firearms history or ability to research has ever thought the Henry company which started in the 1990's had anything to do with B. Tyler Henry.
They used his name and history as "father of the lever rifle" for inspiration for their (at that time) new born lever gun company.
No different than I know that the Tesla car company is not associated with Nikola Tesla but are using his name and history as inspiration for their electric cars.
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As an American - I have zero (or nearly zero) challenge with New Zealanders or Austrailans accent. I can even usually tell which is which (big deal to me; probably simple for others).
British is "usually" ok (enough years of Monty Python and Top Gear), but Irish and Scottish are another thing altogether.
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I have one; Mexico is close by - I have business interests in Tijuana and Rosarita and a couple members of my staff regularly go down to TJ for stem cell treatments.
And we are currently in talks with a company in Dubai (so a 16 hour flight that I am not looking forward to).
So since I may need to cross into Mexico or hop a plane on short notice - I keep my passport current.
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RRV is located in Ridgecrest California.
Good group of folks - just dont make it their way too often.
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5 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said:
Puppet Masters by Robert A. Heinlein. My older cousin loaned me his copy when I was 7 years old and I've been a Sci-Fi fan ever since.
The movie was a sucky adaptation of the novel. As usual.
Heinlein is a distant (way distant) cousin - actually got me in trouble as one of my teachers was pronouncing his name like it is spelled, HineLine; when the actual pronounciation is HangLine and I felt it necessary to correct them.
I grew up a voracious reader, thanks to my Dad - lights out was always a hour or two after bedtime because I would reading something and begging "just let me finish this chapter".
And even as a preteen - Dad was always tossing his books at me when he finished them; so I grew up with an eclectic mix of Mark Twain and Jack London intermixed with Donald E Westlake, Raymond Chandler and Shakespeare. The Hardy Boys and The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Just wish I could knuckle down and finish the three novels I have half written myself.
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33 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:
Creeker,
your kindness to your friends and fellow man are only exceeded by your generosity in deeds.
..........Widder
I was told to be the light you want to see in the world.
Just the lights I usually attract are flashing red and blue.
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16 hours ago, Hells Comin said:
To late Creeker has already beaten you to it.
Chippendales?
Seriously?
Shooting Bull is my friend and I would not do that to my buddy
Now, if you want to know some of the things Creeker WOULD do:
* Sign him up for the NAMBLA newsletter.
* Volunteer him for the AOC Democratic fundraiser.
* Send a donation in his name to the Hunter Biden defense fund.
* Call Nevada Power and inform them that he is going on vacation and that they should turn his electricity off for two weeks.
* Take pictures of his place and offer it up on Air BnB.
* Sign him up to take calls for Uber - but only between 2am and 4am.
I have more - but you'd have to really dislike someone to use them.
And like I said, Shooting Bull is my friend.
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Taking a "guess" - part of the speed you may have found might be in your cycling stroke.
92's like a solid stroke traveling to the physical stop - "if" you are not cycling the full stroke; you may not be fully cocking the hammer.
73's are a little more forgiving of less than a full cycle.
A weak mainspring will also fail to cock the hammer intermittently.
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59 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
Don't cut it!
I strenuously object to the idea that long barreled shotguns are not good for our game. Try it, you just might like it.
But seriously, long barrels are great. I almost never miss with them, something I can't say about the short barrels.How often do you shoot thru windows and around barriers?
And do the tenths of seconds thrown away with the longer barrel matter to you?
If someone doesn't want to cut their gun - that is not a sin.
A lot of folks use and enjoy longer barrels.
And I won't presume to tell anyone how to play - do whatever makes you happy.
But if someone is concentrating on the competition aspect - the longer barrel is leaving time on the table.
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What's your call
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The SOG penalty is a hold over remnant from the old way of running the game which included the mindset of, "how dare you do it differently than how I think it should be done - so you must be wrong".
How about we default to the shooter "owns the stage" after the first shot goes down range and let them figure out the best way for them to complete the course of fire.
Unless you implement a "Required Default" sequence (say a single tap Nevada sweep) to revert to in the case of a brain fade - the field will never be level anyway.
And what happens if your desired default is slower than the correct sequence?
Or the target array does not lend itself to the default?
Or even answer this - currently what is acceptable after a brain fade?
You don't want me to dump, so can I triple tap?
Double tap?
Single tap alternate?
Unless those answers are implemented and codified into rules - every "choice" of sequence is inconsistent and potentially advantageous for X shooter vs Y shooter.
The shooter has already earned a penalty - let them complete the stage to the best of their ability.
There is NO competitive advantage to taking a "P" - and if there is; that is a failing of the stage writer - not the shooter.
Everyone does not have to engage a stage in the exact same manner - but everyone must have the OPTION to do so.
The shooter earns a "P" and then dumps - so what?
As long as every shooter in the same situation has the same option - the problem is solved.