Phantom, SASS #54973
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16 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said:
I want a Volcanic too. Too bad Smith and Wesson didn't keep it.
They're expensive...but not that expensive.
Particularly taking into consideration the rising prices of Turkeys.
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1 hour ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said:
Yes I was going to see if I could order one from Henry, just the receiver, and then buy a barrel to somehow reduce to an 8-10” length, and the see if I could create a grip and modify the lever to be more like the Volcanic pistols. Wasn’t planning on a short barrel gun and the tax stamp.
Doubt it. Their "books" will show the receiver as a Rifle unless they produce a Pistol version.
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1 hour ago, Dusty Devil Dale said:
Agree, but in two-handed, it isn't the grip hand that has to reach up for the hammer (at least speaking for me). I shoot right-handed. I barely touch my grip hand with my left when shooting except to anchor/index the left hand in position with the tip of my last two fingers. So reaching for the hammer doesn't really affect my grip very much, if at all; especially using the low SBH hammers on a NMV pistols.
Did I understand you correctly?
Not really. I was simply addressing speed and not grip. The act of cocking the hammer exists regardless of whether one is shooting supported or not.
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There are multi-time overall World Champs/Nat'l Champs that Slip Hammered...I Slip Hammered exclusively when I shot two handed. I don't recommend it any longer.
The fact is that at some point the shooter has to bring his/her thumb up to re-cock the revolver...you can do that before you pull trigger or after you let go of the hammer...but you still have to bring that thumb up at some point...except the last shot obviously.
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17 minutes ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said:
“so long as you don’t attack someone” is a quote from your own post! Seems to me you were saying I was attacking you personally!?!
thanks for you Thanksgiving wishIt was a Generic Pronoun...
And per the suggestion, I'm now letting it go.
Hope everyone has a Blessed Thanksgiving.
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2 minutes ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said:
I didn’t attack you! I express my opinion on your posts just as you are doing! In fact not only did I not attacked you, I complimented you on being nicer than most of your posts! Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
I didn't say you attacked me. I said that folks should be able to say what's on their mind so long as they don't attack someone personally. The use of the word "you" was general.
Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
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2 minutes ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said:
You do but you don’t say you wouldn’t do it, you just put down that one who disagrees! We have had this discussion before and both our posts “disappear”. So as this one will probably disappear as well I will tell you what my Mom use to say to me, if you can’t say something nice, then don’t say anything at all, and yes you do have a right to express yourself and you also have the right to the tone and words you use! So be nice and don’t be nasty. And read this quick because the moderator will take it down soon.
Stop trying to have folks respond only in your way...
And it's silly to think that folks should only say "Nice" things...I suppose you don't believe in calling a Spade a Spade...if you honestly believe that it's a Spade.
Good Lord...say what's on your mind so long as you don't attack someone personally. Don't be afraid of being bold in your expression of a differing opinion.
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8 hours ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said:
Thanks, that’s the better answer than your previous post, more positive! I knew you had it in you!
If you actually would read and then realize that folks are allowed to have and express their differing opinions, you would have made you statement in the first place...perhaps that's something that you need to have "in you".
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35 minutes ago, Tennessee williams said:
Wouldn't that be illegal? SBR
Now now, don't be a "Spoil Sport".
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55 minutes ago, Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439 said:
My God you are such a spoil sport!
Feel free to indulge in your fantasy
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Funny...I thought it was Brother King that got the ball rolling on the "Magnificent Seven".
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31 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
Uhm...
I have said from the beginning the beginning that the whole point of the comparison is to examine how they are different just as much as it is to look at the similarities. I have specifically said that the frame and action are different.Aaaand...that's kinda important considering Cimarron is calling it a Lightning...and Thunderer.
Frankly, I think whole discussion is silly. I can see why someone would want to buy one because they think they look cool and all...but ya gotta stop lying to yerself with this comparison with the actual Lightning/Thunderer.
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2 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:
If I'm not mistaken, Ferdinand Porsche DESIGNED the VW.
Yeah...so...?
And "Ford" designed the GT and the Edsel...but please, let's not try and say they are comparable.
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22 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:
And somehow this ended up in the Saloon...
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Now it's your (Saloon), problem.
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16 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
It's not about the names. It's about how the pistols themselves are similar, and how they are different.
Oh...I don't know...Frame...Action...you know, little things.
Boy I'll tell ya, some of y'all sure take this Fantasy aspect of our game to the extremes.
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1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
Okay....
Can you compare the Colt SAA to the Ruger? Are they similar enough that it is logical to compare them, or are they so different that doing a comparison is pointless.
Or...
Can you compare the Colt SAA to the Remington 1875? There are a lot of similarities that would make people want to compare them. Or are they just too different so that comparing them makes no sense?Or...
Can you compare the USFA Omni Potent to the Colt 1878? They clearly look similar, but the USFA is not a SA only version of the 78, it's an SAA made to resemble the 78, so comparing them is silly.The Cimarron Lightning is not an SA only version of the Colt Lightning. It is a scaled down SAA made to somewhat resemble the Colt Lightning. If the above three comparisons make no sense, then comparing these two pistols makes no sense. But if the top three comparisons are logical ones to make, then comparing the two pistols known as the Lightning is also a logical one to make.
No...
Ruger didn't call their SA Revolver a Single Action Army...
Remington didn't call their SA Revolver a Single Action Army...or a Peacemaker...or...Model P...or anything else "Colt".
USFA didn't call their...you get the drift...maybe...
Comparing something to another is different than hijacking a name with minimal and non-critical similarities. Take away the silly attempt at copying the grip frame and all you have is a scaled down 1873 Clone...oy...
And do you think that they actually designed the scaled down version to specifically market their "Lightning"??? Puuuuulease.
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2 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
Actually, it is kinda close. Just not exact. Unless you are blind you can SEE that it is meant to be reminiscent of the old Colt Lightning. Not exactly the same, but nobody ever said it was.
I don't see any pottery in that reality.Yer right...there's a barrel...a cylinder...and a grip frame that kinda looks like a Lightning grip frame...
...I'm sorry, I just started laughing.
What else are the similarities?
Sorry again...
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11 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:
Simple grammar.
"Along the lines" means similar to or evocative of, not the same as.
Everyone knows they are not the same thing.Designed along the lines...
Simple grammar
"Not the same thing"...how's about "not even close to the same thing".
It's a crock and shamefully poor marketing.
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I'll use them in either at Monthlies.
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11 minutes ago, Cholla said:
Cimarron Firearms is the one making the comparison.
Yeah...well that's Cimarron for ya.
Don't know which is more embarrassing. Saying they are "Designed along the lines...", or believing it.
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A suggestion for Ruger for Marlin
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Irrelevant - possession is a Felony.
Not worth it.