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On 6/25/2025 at 7:33 AM, Pat Riot said:
I got a ticket in a town in PA where the cop was also the magistrate. He pulled me over then had me follow him to the Magistrate’s office to pay the $32 fine.
he removed his hat then sat down at the desk to take my money.
It reminded me of that Dan Akroyd movie that I can’t remember the name of.Nothing But Trouble LOL.
Valkenvania. Alvin "JP" Valkenheiser.
John Candy, Dan Ackroyd, Chevy Chase, Demi Moore 1991. Worth a watch!!
I been to places like that. 'Murica's a big place. LOL
My county is 9600 square miles. Big as, or bigger than some states! Back when, I had a friend who was a Deputy in Wisconsin. We got to trading stories, and eventually got round to describing where we worked. We both had rural beats and at one point he complained about how short-staffed they were and how big his area was. "Why, how big is it?" "Oh, bout a hunnert square miles. Way too big for one deppity, but" Shrugs. "Why, how big is yours?"
"Leven hunnert square miles, give or take" Said young Deputy Dubious.
"Crikes! How do you manage to patrol all that?"
"Oh, 'bout seventy miles a hour, usually." ROTFL 🤣
This was 1988-ish. I worked the northwest area of my county. We generally fielded two Deputies, One east, one west of town. At night we either had a jailer/dispatcher working the 9-1-1 desk or one of us LOL. During the day, they were usually full staffed with the desk manned, two Deputies out on patrol, a Sergeant AND, on a good day, our Lt. The town was doing good having two, if ya know what I mean.
It was a different time.
I went on calls by myself that today would be considered irresponsible. But even today, that's what the job requires sometimes.
Yeah. On occasion I Busted the speed laws but I was careful not to bust the Laws of Physics LOL. Can't help nobody if you don't get there.
Been that guy and on the other side of that. Ten minutes is an eternity in a fight.
One night, me and my "beat partner", one was way east the other way west when he found himself in the middle of someone else's gunfight. Which became HIS gunfight. After I got there, still in the middle of sorting the winners/losers, the dispatcher asked me to call from a landline when I could. Uh-oh.
She just wanted to make sure I was aware I'd busted the regs getting to that call so if the boss noticed and asked me, I'd have an answer ready. (Oh. I was waaaayyyyyy more than "just over the limit") We didn't have any fancy computers/GPS/nothing, so the only way the boss would know was if, IF he noticed that the time I got there was way shorter than a trip of around forty miles should be. Like about half. LOL.
Fast forward to the end of my career, the built-in tattletale in my vehicle had reported my seatbelt usage was less than 50 percent and I'd busted the 80MPH limit yadda-yadda times. Captain came to briefing to call me out on it. He actually asked politely if I'd straighten up as an example to the youngsters, but mostly, he wanted to make sure I made it to retirement the following year. He was right, of course.
I told him about that day because I was going WAYYYYY over 80 to a call where another Deputy was IN a fight and I was all the backup he had. It was 20 minutes after I got there that OUR backup got there LOL. State troopers in jammies and a gunbelt was what we got because after midnight, they all went home and County was it!
Good Old Days
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6 hours ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:
I recall the discussions here. The standard issue carry gun was a .38 Spl. with a round butt and 4" barrel for uniformed officers.
Detectives could carry a 2" barreled .32
We had a very senior officer*, (one rank below Deputy Chief) who insisted our officers carry only 5 rounds loaded in the cylinder. (He read a lot of westerns.)
Officers were issued 6 rounds per year for practice, whether they needed it or not!
My fight really got going when the Province of Ontario got around to recognizing the police were under gunned and started a province wide program to select a semi-auto pistol and mandated use of jacketed hollow points.
One area Chief (There were 16 area municipalities in what is now Ottawa, following amalgamation) did not want the Glock 17 or 19 because "The grips fall off!" and "They go full auto!" while referring to a video of a Glock 18.
And our own *very senior officer who tried telling the Chairman of the Police Commission that "We can't use hollow Points, they're against the Haig Convention!"
AHH, the good old days.
And "Bullet resistant vests aren't coming here! They'll give the officers a false sense of confidence!*"
Wow. I remember some of those very same arguments!
I spose it was the old-reliable....."becuz we always done it that way!!!"
People are resistant to change. Mostly. Sometimes.
At my agency, mid-80's, personnel could carry semi-autos in plainclothes details or off duty but not in uniform. Because the Sheriff didn't think they looked good with the uniform. We were allowed hollowpoints and backup guns which was nice. When I showed up at my first duty station, I was one of three guys who wore body armor. And 44 magnums. Far as I know, up to that point I was the only recruit to come though the Academy with a 44. LOL. Nowadays police roll out looking like they're heading for Downtown Kabul or Fallujah.
Times change.
I spent a good long while as a teacher in one role or another. I told my students not to forget the lessons of history. Or be doomed to repeat them.
And, don't be a dinosaur. They went extinct because they couldn't adapt to the new world....
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On 6/24/2025 at 6:53 PM, Turquoise Bill, SASS #39118 said:
A fitting poem for our shooting pard and friend:
A Cowboy Psalm
Dear God, only You know when I'll reach the end of my trail,
So I want you to know I'm grateful.
A hundred times I've been thrown by life
And a hundred times You've lifted me back in the saddle.
Every morning I see Your smile in the sunrise over the prairie
And taste Your breath in the sage on the wind.
You put the aches in my bones at sunset to remind me that I'm still alive,
And the stars in the midnight sky to keep me humble.
I know that You love me.
When I've thirsted You've been my drink
And Your words have been my bread.
You catch me when I tangle my spurs,
You keep me from taking the crooked path.
You gave Your Son for my immortal soul.
And I know, Lord, that when I am judged
You won't care how long I stayed on–
But how well I rode.
©Copyright2002 Boston John Doucette
RIP my friend!
TB
That Was PERFECT, Turquoise!!
Thank You!
Yeah. This one hurts. But it's ok because we'll get to see him again someday.
Cherish your Family, Friends, people. God Bless
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9 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said:
I’ve seen movies where Abilene and Dodge City, KS are the settings. I don’t recall any mountains in my travels there, unlike those shown in the films. I’ve also flown the 4 corners of the state and didn’t see any there either.
I’m glad Hollywood doesn’t make maps. 🙃
If Hollywood made maps, they'd look like something out of a Dr Seuss book.....LOL
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I load on a Dillon 650. I do have my old Rock Chucker for "oddball" cartridges. All my CAS ammo except the BP stuff is loaded on the Dillon.
The Lee FCD is an excellent choice. I use it in select calibers on an individual basis, mostly bottleneck rifle. The majority of my shooting is CAS and 9/45/5.56/12GA.
I use Dillon dies and crimp at the last station. I case gauge and hand inspect EVERY round. And I STILL find oopsies LOL. Couple months ago, I had a stoppage with one of my nines. Managed to load a 380 case with a 9mm bullet/powder charge. Dang range pickups. I'm real particular about picking up my brass on a public range. Apparently not picky enough!
Point; you can NEVER be careful enough.
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On 5/19/2025 at 6:32 PM, Dapper Dave said:
Ya know, I am not TOTALLY technologically challenged, we did have Apple IIe and TRS 80s computers in high school, and I can program my own VCR...if I ever find it. But dagnabbit, this is getting plumb outa hand!
Wait, lemme back up this whine wagon. See, I noticed some people talking about imported things going up in price due to tariffs, etc., and when I looked online, the Taylor's and Co/Uberti Ranch hand had gone up $45 in a few months. So I mentioned it to my wife, and she said, "Well, you'd probably better get that, and didn't you want an 1873 for black powder rifle too?"
Have I mentioned how much I love that woman?
So I ordered it, (not the rifle, don't have THAT much disposable cash right now!), and it came in today. Yay! Off to the FFL I go.
When I picked up my first Uberti mid last year, they had debuted the new 4473 I-Pad system, where they handed me a touch pad to fill out the form. Now I don't have as many years on me as some here, but I remember when the 4473 was a SINGLE yellow page...and then some wags passed the Paperwork Reduction Act, which EXPANDED the form to 3 pages. Then it went white, ( kick backs to the yellow ink guys must have gotten to be too much), and then just recently to touch pads. The FFL I use to receive things had me fill it out twice in the last months, so fine...
Now remember I work Graveyard and they woke me up at 1 PM, so I am a wee bit groggy, and I am looking for the touch pad.
]The salesman looks at me and says, "Your phone number still XXX-CCCV?"
Well, yes.
"Do you have it on you?"
Hey, now this ain't New York and you don't get to surf my social media sites, (which would bore the everlovin' jebeezus outta ya. ), so what do you need THAT for?
"Check your texts, I texted you the link to fill out your form."
😶😶😶
...you want me to do what?
Sure as crooked lawyers chase ambulances, there I was filling out my 4473 on my phone. My wife will tell you I routinely cuss out my phone's keyboard, so I had to push my half awake self to make double certain I spelled everything right on that tiny little keyboard two inches from my bloodshot eyes. What a pain. Then I had to send it to him, (2 feet away from me), and he reviewed it. Then it was pay the man, grab the gun and go, (CCW permit negates background check), and out the door I went, thoroughly nonplussed by this technological leap I had just participated in against my will.
I wonder what he would have done if I'd said no, I don't have my phone? Other than call me a liar to my face, that is.
I shoulda got the rifle too, would've cut down the electronic hogwash.
Awright, rant over, time to empty out the byte bucket and clean up the mouse pad, a'fore it stinks. 🤪
Welcome to the New World, My Friend LOL.
I know dealers who still do paper and ones who don't. They haven't made the electronic ones mandatory. Yet.
ATF likes their "new" electronic system. Electronic 4473's, bound books. All accessible 24/7 to them for use in their Forward Trace system. Instead of those 4473's sitting for decades at a dealer. The dealer I worked for had over 20 years of 4473's stored when ATF "discovered" an error in the business name on his FFL. Missing a hyphen or some such silliness which required them to close the "old" FFL, and issue a new one. Same day. ATF came and picked up the records the next day. About fifty, seventy? cardboard banker boxes of records. Uh-huh. Missing hyphen. Sure. They just wanted the records. They're not supposed to have a searchable database of firearms records, but they do. It's sort of what database programs do, hey?
On the other hand, with the E-File system for NFA and other certain dealer/licensee paperwork it makes approval super fast for NFA items. What once took 18 months or more, the last one I did was done in a day and a half.
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3 hours ago, Dapper Dave said:
That's the funny thing - per AZ state law I have literally the same carry authority as any sworn police officer. Please understand, I am not asking for LE discounts or anything like that - I am not and never have been a street cop, but when we deal with inmates, they really remember us when they get out. They see street cops when arrested and in court - they see us for the entire sentence. But we are out of sight, out of mind, unless something goes wrong, (like the incredible failure in classification that led to an incredibly dangerous inmate moved from lock down to an open yard with a cellmate, who proceeded to kill the cellie and two other inmates very quickly. Just happened a month ago.), so if we do a good job, nobody notices.
What's even FUNNIER than that is that DESPITE having the statutory carry authority, the Dept tells us we may only carry where civilian CCW permit holders may carry, (even crazier since we've been a Constitutional Carry state for 15 years now), and carrying anywhere else is verboten, subject to discipline up to and including dismissal. Also, most places/businesses will NOT recognize that authority, even when in black and white. So many places I would like to go are off limits if I want to protect myself or my family from violent thugs who have sworn to my face that they will kill me and my family. Admittedly, some of those are genuinely funny, like when coming from a 90 year old sex offender on oxygen, but not all of them are like that. My wife is a retired CO and has only CCW to fall back on.
Personally I would like to see Constitutional Carry recognized across the 50 states AND the District, and we do have a majority of states who are CC right now, so it's doable. But in the meantime, when they talk about modernizing LEOSA this way, and continue to leave others in public safety out, well, oh well, good luck to you.
It's ridiculous that the LAW is pretty clear in 13-3102 as to the CCW status of Corrections Officers, Detention Officers specifically, yet "They" make up their own rules...because.
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Nice to see Henry mainstreaming it. YT is, you know. Ain't the 90's anymore LOL. Their levers are engineered pretty good. Several of my local dealers can't keep'em on the shelf. Odd, huh?
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On 4/26/2025 at 4:51 PM, Cypress Sun said:
As Larson alluded to, there is a spring to retracts the firing pin and keeps it retracted. Slapping the lever creates enough inertia to overcome the spring. Cypress Sam had an OBD much as described in the OP. He even did testing to prove that OBD was possible, in fact, not just possible, but highly likely to happen. That video is somewhere on YouTube also. Sam had powder burns on his face, holes in his hat and a piece of brass went clean through his ear which created a bloody mess. Yes, it was a match DQ.
Sam's OBD
OOohhh....my favorite OOB video! I used to show this one to my students. I've also personally witnessed several on the range, at matches, on the clock, with 1873/type rifles. Don't slap the lever to make it go when it don't wanna LOL!
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On 4/26/2025 at 3:56 PM, Bailey Creek,5759 said:
Does anyone have a load for Universal in 45 Colt?
Also need a load for 12 Ga.
Thank you for your help.
Hodgdon's reloading data site; IMR – Hodgdon Powder Company
Alliant's site; Alliant Powder - Reloader's Guide
Back before the "troubles" with Trailboss, I'd begun switching to Universal. That'll teach me to use a single source, off-shore component...LOL. Anyway. I also use Unique in select loads. (which of course Alliant isn't shipping...yet...or at least I don't think so) Their performance is comparable, I note that the starting/max loads recommended for Universal on the Hodgdon site for a 200LRNFP the starting is 8.0 and the max 9.0. Compare that to what's on Alliant's site for Unique, their data for a 200 LSWC goes from 5.5 to 9.5.
Note the wide variance in starting loads. My guess, and this also comes from my own experience with Universal is it doesn't like "light" powder charges in big cases while Unique doesn't care as much when there's lots of case space and a small powder charge. (some powders react oddly to that, like the old PPC HBWC/bullseye in 38's did to S&W revolvers on occasion) Also please note that the Hodgdon data spec's CCI primers. Generally, one can substitute primers across the brands but remember that CCI tends to be a little hotter than some. Like...Winchester.
I use Winchester almost exclusively. So that's what I used in a load for 9mm. Universal, 124gr bullet. Ran out of those, used 115gr which at the time was all I could get. Looking at the data, the powder charge for Universal with those bullets in pretty comparable. Sooo, should have been ok, right?
Not exactly LOL.
Remember Universal (apparently) doesn't like powder charges/density on the low side?
Yeah. I found that out the hard way, made too many of those poofers to use the inertia bullet puller...LOL. The good thing is while they DO work in the pistols, it's on the really light side. In an AR carbine, they work great. So that goes with me every week and eventually I'll turn those into brass which I'll reload...with a heavier charge of Universal.
Long way round the barn to say Universal doesn't like light charges of powder so stay on the higher side.
It's not the cleanest powder, but it's ok. Meters very well. I don't want to go back to WW231 but looks like I might have to.....
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10 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:
A while back someone asked if Glock ever made plastic magazines. For whatever reason the thread got locked but I found these in my junk box and thought I would answer. I bought one of the first Glocks imported into the US in 1986. At that time the magazines were plastic except for the feed lips which appear to be stainless steel. These magazines were junk. If you loaded them up to capacity they would not drop free of the gun. The springs were made from some material that would take a set after only a few loadings so you could only fire the top 9 or 10 rounds. The rest stuck down in the magazine. The magazine bodies themselves were made of some material that was not terribly durable. Here is a photo of those original two magazines. The plastic bodies on both have split. Glock corrected these problems and these old magazines are now relegated to history.
Generation 1 magazines. They were superseded byGen2 and so on. The way these are split is pretty indicative of the breed. They almost always do that. They're not all polymer. There's a U-shaped steel piece inside just like the others but it's DESIGNED to expand so if the mag catch is pressed accidentally, the magazine doesn't just fall out and get lost. It was designed that way as a feature, being originally intended for the Austrian Army. The original mag springs in these were pretty crummy LOL. The next generations are pretty good. Wolff springs are even better! If you compare these to even Gen3 magazines, you'll note that they are NOT the same. The body is thicker. The steel insert, which comprises the whole of the body (all four sides) and the feed lips is pretty rigid. It's almost easy to ID the different generations; Gen1 has a U cut for the stripping rail at the top back side of the mag. Gen2 has a square cut. Starting with Gen 5 (Post 94 ban which is important only if you live in one of those States) that cut is trapezoidal.
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It's still a nope-rope.....
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On 4/3/2025 at 11:09 AM, Nostrum Damus SASS #110702 said:I had fun chatting with the good folks at Dillon Precision today, twice.First, here are some photos of issues or problems I was having when the machine is set up with the 9mm/38/357 caliber kit and using these coated cast lead .358" dia 125gr projectiles:First, just as bullets entered the bullet chute in the bowl, they were snagging and tipping up, thus blocking the chute, like this:The reason seems pretty clear to me: the Center Plate's surface is ribbed crosswise to the direction of bullet travel! This area, seen more clearly in these next photos, needs to be smooth:The chatter marks left in this area of the Center Plate by the additive manufacturing process must go! Dillon now know about it, if they didn't already. (It seems that the Service Dept is up to its eyeballs in Service Tickets and phone calls about the new Bullet Feeder which, to be honest, seems to me to still be in "beta test" mode.)Next, I inspected the internal throat of the Bullet Switch and it is 100% clear that my bullets are not hung up on any structure that is part of the assembly. It is quite obvious in these photos that the bullet simply did not have enough downward momentum to overcome the frictional braking applied by the contact switch's actuation arm (note the relative vertical positions of the bullet and the contact arm -- there is no internal structure near the lower end of the bullet that it could possibly hang up on):The bottom of the bullet is even visible hanging in thin air below the bottom end of the contact switch actuation arm:So, it is totally clear that the issue is insufficient momentum of the bullet when it arrives at the contact switch actuation arm. It needs to be traveling faster. The best way to accomplish that, in my opinion, would be to raise the height of the bowl; I suspect that 6 inches would do the trick but I don't have the means to test that hypothesis. That will require a redesign of the mounting tube and Dillon providing longer Bullet Conduit Springs. That might be all that's needed. But maybe not.The second best way, in my view, would be to enlarge the diameter of each component of the bullet dropper assembly so that the bullet falls faster. Basically, I think all three of these components are too small in I.D.:Since I also bought the 45 caliber conversion kit for my 200gr coated cast RNFP bullets, I decided to swap these components from that kit for the same in the 9mm/38/357 kit, as a test. The Dillon guy didn't know if it would work, and in fact expressed some doubt. It turned out, well ... EUREKA!! The .352 coated pills FLY down the Conduit Spring and flash right past the microswitch actuation arm in the Bullet Switch. In fact, it works so well that, had I not known I had installed these three parts from the 45 cal conversion kit, I would have said the whole thing works PERFECTLY AS DESIGNED. There is apparently enough diameter in the .352 bullets to cause the Bullet Switch to disengage the bowl motor when the stack inside the Bullet Switch is sufficiently high.And there you have it! AND as a bonus, this swap of parts ALSO seems to have eliminated the "bullet tipping" issue at the entrance of the Bullet Chute inside the bowl. Go figure! Last two problems solved.The folks at Dillon are now fully up to speed with everything I've been tinkering with.
Thak you for that most EXCELLENT writeup! If you're not a mechanical engineer you oughta be LOL.
Anyway. If I understand correctly, you swapped the applicable parts from your 45 caliber conversion kit to the 9/38 setup and THAT one worked fine? I'm asking because I also run a 650 and a bullet feeder is on my horizon. Since Dillon is you know, local to me LOL.
Every manufacturer does beta-testing, I think. Some also use real end users to do this. Labs and "field test conditions" are nice, but I learned old-skool; one sure way to determine if something is up to snuff, find an Army squad. Give it to one of the Privates. Let HIM beta-test whatever the thing is. You'll find out most ricky-tik if it is up to snuff. Or not. ROTFL. I also have a good friend who's 80. Survived a career with Detroit PD and the feds, plus some other stuff he still doesn't talk about. Says never be the crash-test-dummy for Mark 1 Mod 0 Nuttin'..... (he's right, you know)
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Interesting story. We have the last Titan II as a museum, Green Valley, AZ. They have a nice museum to go with a full tour of the launch facility. They are also affiliated with Pima Air Museum in Tucson. Worth the trip.
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On 4/5/2025 at 6:48 AM, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:
Didn't Clint Smith say, "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck"?
Yes. He did. And he's right!!!
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Yes. you leave prints on the inside of the gloves. If they're intact enough, and it takes some skill, recovering those prints can be done. All of the little details you noted are correct. Remember the timeframe this show aired. Police/self-defense training wasn't what it is now. Things like this are why. Used to be, when they called it IPSC hands raised shoulder high was a common starting position. I had an instructor back then who told us "if your guy does that to you when you say hands up, just &^$!@#!! blast'em!" I just giggled because I knew why, and I knew he wasn't wrong. That was then, this is now.
Here's the reality. If you encounter someone who's just murdered someone with a firearm and he still has it in his hands but pointed away from you, he is, in fact, an immediate lethal threat to you.
Lag time/reaction time. The time it takes for the brain to process an event it sees, devise a reaction and send that signal to the hands, arms, feet, etc. THEN you move. Reaction time (lack of) is the reason rear end collisions happen frequently. Don't follow so close is the big clue there. My point is, that person with a gun in their hands can turn, aim and fire before you even make/complete a decision-->means you get shot first. Or you shoot each other. I teach my students this and instruct them on tactics that mitigate threats like this.
Verbal warnings like that used to be common back then. Now, not so much. Because we have learned over time, at the cost of some lives, that some of those tactics we thought were cool or "fair" got people hurt.
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On 3/22/2025 at 3:18 PM, El Sobrante Kid said:
I remember seeing videos of him doing that. I also remember that he would stuff layers of newspapers or magazines between the vest and his chest to minimize the effect of the force.
Phone books LOL. Richard was sort of kooky. Used to deliver for a pizzeria. In Detroit LOL. Got robbed a few times, came up with the vest idea and the rest, was history. My current vest isn't bad, but Second Chance was the most comfortable. Ever.
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Very neat target! You might get some splashback from that bottom bracket between the legs. Nice flat surface.....
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On 3/19/2025 at 6:45 AM, Alpo said:
Have you got red hair?
Well hell. If they are going to insist upon merging these two posts, I will have to insist upon coming in here and separating them. That way people will know that the second comment had nothing to do with the first.
Good thing Utah Bob wasn't there.
No. I haven't got red hair. And I wasn't no Swabbie.....ROTFL
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HC = High Capacity. Bigger boom. Beeg-Bada-Boom LOL
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That tubby doper thought he could outrun a horse? ROTFL!!!
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LOL. BTDT. Pressurized cylinders are nothing to fool around with. In a fire they're pretty dang dangerous. There's a reason they have screw-on caps to go over the valves. If stored improperly and the tank falls, the valve can get broken off. Thing takes off like a rocket. Literally. Can go through a layer of brick. Don't ask how I know that, LOL. Back when meth labs were a common thing, SWAT had to wear airpacks to do their entries because of the danger of getting hurt breathing those fumes. (which are also explosive in the right concentrations). They did testing to see what would happen of one of those pressurized tanks got hit by a round. Yes. A man-size drag dummy got drug around pretty good when the tank was holed. Like a cockeyed rocket pack LOL. By itself? 100 yards, 308, Federal GM Match ammunition. Rig was sitting upright on the ground. Hit was right at the bottom. Tank launched, went up as high as the high voltage towers next to our range, bout a hundred feet? That's when Sarge and me decided discretion was the better part of valor, told'em to lockup on their way out and we di-di'd LOL.
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It's always sumptin' at that range....in the before time, We didn't call it "Winder-Rain-(ge) for Nuttin' LOL. looks like the weather-voo off that mountain carried over! But as always, Cowboys N' Girls are a hardy bunch and a little wind and dust didn't hurt none. Glad everybody had a good time!!
God Bless
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"The Duncan-Carter Hearing Protection Act was delivered by GOP sponsors U.S. Rep. Jeff Duncan of South Carolina and Rep. John Carter of Texas and aims to deregulate suppressors as a safety measure to help promote their use in protecting hearing."
http://www.guns.com/2017/01/10/hearing-protection-act-introduced-to-new-congress/
I would urge y'all to contact your congress-critters and Senators about this bill. Remember suppressors and silencers are the same thing. Stress these devices would still require the same paperwork and background check, along with all the regulatory protections that a handgun would.
Grumman HU-16 Albatross Landing Gear
in SASS Wire Saloon
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Yup. Toggle link. Pretty straightforward. I Like the down lock. That sucker isn't folding up under load! LOL