Subdeacon Joe
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https://mylegalwriting.com/2019/05/22/do-offensive-remarks-justify-physical-retaliation/
https://jeremyhuss.com/use-of-physical-force-in-self-defense/
Physical Force is Not Justified in Response to Verbal Provocation
Words alone are not adequate provocation for use of physical force. It does not matter how much a person offends another, unless there is some threat or act of physical force, words are never adequate provocation. Rather, a “reasonable” person must believe physical force is immediately necessary. But, can’t another’s imminent threats support a belief that physical force is necessary? Indeed it can. However, as the statute clearly states, physical force is not justified “[i]n response to verbal provocation alone.” On the contrary, if threatening words accompany movements that could be construed as causing imminent harm, a person is justified in using physical force. But it is important to note, words alone are not adequate provocation to justify use of physical force.
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10 minutes ago, Alpo said:
I wonder what that first guy was playing?
It sounds like a banjo, but it has a wood face. Every banjo I have ever seen has a hide face.
Just a standard wood top banjo. Unusual, but not unheard of.
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I see that Mexican Heritage Month is upon us. (OK, technically "Hispanic Heritage Month - but it starts on MEXICAN Independence Day - you make the call)
So, in honor of that:
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WOW! Three responses within two minutes! Musta hit a nerve. And again arguing that one may not respond in any way when attacked.
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I don't recall ever seeing a team 51 games behind.
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1 hour ago, Texas Jack Black said:
It is called de escalation he escalated the altercation. Ask a few lawyers. You cannot provoke an attack then say NOPE NOT MY FAULT
Nope. The thug is the only one who escalated anything. HE could have kept his support of the mohammedean Einsatzgruppen to himself.
HE could have not charged across the street with intention to harm someone.
HE could have chosen to not tackle the victim.
You are arguing that if you say anything that someone else doesn't like they have the right to physically attack you and you have no right to defend yourself in any way.
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44 minutes ago, Texas Jack Black said:
You think using deadly force is justified for this incident? explain why.
The gun owner also escalated the altercation he could have kept quiet. He did not .
I am no lawyer but he is going to be slapped around and convicted.
SAD
So what if he didn't keep quiet? Words are not violence. He made no threats. He made no attempt to attack the thug. The thug had to sprint across traffic to attack him, and took him to the ground. Reasonable belief of threat to his life.
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"A federal appeals court on Friday refused to allow two states to ban guns in some locations but limited the impact of its decision when it ruled that property owners can reject firearms.
Citing a “basic background principle of property law,” the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals at San Francisco said states can’t ban guns at locations that include hospitals, banks and churches, but property owners can.
“Nothing in the text of the Second Amendment or otherwise suggests that a private property owner—even owners who open their private property to the public—must allow persons who bear arms to enter,” the appeals court said in a Sept. 6 opinion.
The 9th Circuit panel made carrying guns onto private property even more difficult in Hawaii when it reinstated the state’s default rule that automatically bans guns on private property unless the owner affirmatively gives consent."
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11 hours ago, Pat Riot said:
I saw those images years ago or ones very similar. It was a bear with a severe case of mange. Apparently the bear was cured and released back into the wild.
I thought that it had a severe case of mange and the veterinarians shaved it for treatment
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5 hours ago, Loophole LaRue, SASS #51438 said:
Joe, Joe, Joe.....when will you West coast guys learn? This is Massachusetts. Most semi auto long guns are illegal or banned; every sale of a gun must be reported to the State via a government web site; and self-defense does not exist until a lower court is forced to accept it on appeal from a conviction. No surprises in this story. However local press reports that defendant's supporters have already raised over $100K for his defense; it's fairly certain that there will be a trial and an appeal, and a ton of press coverage.
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In California almost all carry outside the home is illegal. You might be able to beg a CCW, but Emperor Norton....um....Newsom...and his Sacramento Reichtag have declared almost every public space a sensitive area in which carry is banned.
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OOPS! I didn't see that Sedalia Dave had posted this in one of the other threads!
Found on FB
Launched in 1931, the FDNY fireboat John J. Harvey was decommissioned in 1994 but saved from the scrapyard by volunteers who turned the boat into a museum. On Sept 11, 2001, the boat was rushed back into service to pump water in lower Manhattan after the fire mains were damaged in attack. In 2018, the John J. Harvey was given a paint scheme inspired by dazzle camoflauge to mark the centennial of WWI.
#September11
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9 minutes ago, Alpo said:
Then it seems it would have no need of a steering wheel.
Of course, just because they have a steering wheel in the close up does not mean there's an actual steering wheel in the machine. The close-up was taken in a prop.
Steering wheel turned the skis, just as the steering wheel on our halftracks turned the front wheels.
The idea is that anyone who can drive a car can get in and with minimal training drive it reasonably well.
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The pro-mohammedean Einsatzgruppen thug should be charged with many of the same things. Assault and battery, violation of his victims civil rights, hate speech.
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1 hour ago, Buckshot Bob said:
If Jason is around and the lights not on I’m not going in. That’s what the stupid college kid is for
If your Stupid Light is on that means that your Stupid is activated and running.
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16 hours ago, Father Kit Cool Gun Garth said:
Well, the English had their civil war about 220 years before that. I don't think that they were all that concerned with ours.
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16 minutes ago, Buckshot Bob said:
Shouldn't that be "Make sure you have turned the Stupid Light OFF."?
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24 minutes ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said:
Honest question (if you know) how many of those previously convicted felons actually end up in jail for a real sentence (not some 30 day slap on the wrist) and then face federal penalties (including the so called “mandatory” five year enhanced sentence). If I were a betting man I would bet not many likely none.
Regards
Gateway Kid
I have no idea. I suspect, as you do, that not many get any significant prison time.
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Beats a Monday the 13th.
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Bombing of Alexishafen, 1943
in SASS Wire Saloon
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Before and after shots following the bombing of Alexishafen, north of Madang, New Guinea. 28 December 1943. US Archives pic.
#usnavy #usmc #usarmy #usaf #usveterans #wwii #pacificwar #museum #EspirituSanto #vanuatu #southpacificwwiimuseum