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Just checked Starlines website, and our common dash calibers: 32-20, 38-40, 44-40, plus 50 Alaskan (used to make other calibers) are all on back-order status, meaning they are taking orders. I think they must be caught up with all the 9mm and .223 that was probably taking most of their resources during and after the pandemic, as these dash calibers have been available for ordering more often lately. Also, 45 Cowboy Special is available for immediate shipping.
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Starline is taking Back Orders right now for 44-40 at 10:30 A.M. Frontier Lone Rider
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I recently got a 1995 Ruger Old Vaq 44-40. I have a fluted 44 mag cylinder so I can shoot it now but wanted to ask about the 44-40 throats...WAIT! Don't move on yet! I knew when buying about the 425ish throats and 429 barrels. I have seen online that Ruger did 'fix' the throats to 430. I am fine with 44-40s that are not the historical size and only run in a modern gun. Question 1. Did they mark the cylinders they fixed? 2. Do they still do the fix? Lastly. I would love to buy 15 or 20 pieces of brass so I could get started reloading for it...and have the 44-40 cylinder be more than a paper weight. If anyone wants to sell a few pm me. Starline is out for a while. Just interested in a small batch. I will wait 4 Starline to catch up. Thanks for your help on the cylinder questions too. The new ruger in 44-40 instead of mag is because it is fun.
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Friend of a friend died awhile back, & he had some guns he absolutely cherished. His wife asked me to help sell them, but I know nothing of these old guys. I know there are several of you who know their stuff, & I'm hoping you can help me help her by getting these guys correctly priced. Serial number is in the photos. I'm told that the grips were replaced somewhere along the line, & that they're walnut. This is a .44-40 Colt with a 7 inch barrel. I also have a Winchester 1886 with a LOW serial number that I'll address separately.
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I grew up hunting with traditional self-made bows and occasionally a 22, but today I stalked and took a wild boar in central FL using my miroku 1866 in 44-40 and self-cast lead. Land was private, and hog season is year round in FL (they are considered a pest out here). Harvesting meat for me is bittersweet, there is a quote by NY Times writer David Joy that I've always thought describes the process best, "There is a sadness that only hunters know, a moment when lament overshadows any desire for celebration. Life is sustained by death, and though going to the field is an act of taking responsibility for that fact, the killing is not easy, nor should it be." If I'm being honest, as a friend of animals, hunting is a bit hard on my spirit. But I know that if I buy a pork shoulder at the grocery store without a second thought as to where it came from, that is the biggest form of disrespect to the animal. By hunting my meat, I can take responsibility for my dietary needs and walk away with a deeper appreciation of the life that was given to sustain me. I've pretty much sworn off of grocery meats (unless I'm a guest somewhere, or occasionally at a restaurant) and this lifestyle change has been rewarding to me. This was my first hunt without using a scope of any kind, and since making a single well placed ethical shot is critical, I practiced with my new 1866 for around 12 hours over the course of a month. I made some good progress with the buckhorns and black powder at 50 and 100 yards, but even still, acquisition wasn't instinctive and my groups with black powder (OE 3F droptubed 3' and compressed) were 3x larger than with RL7 at the same velocities (using chronograph). So I didn't think I was good enough yet to hunt with them, still have lots of load development/casting work to do to make BP work like it should. So I decided to cheat on this front for the sake of the animal and installed a skinner aperture rear sight just for the hunt (much, much easier to acquire a fast sight picture on a moving target) and used the RL7 load. Maybe by the next hunt I'll have mastered the buckhorns with BP to make it extra authentic. Rifle: Miroku 1866 24" octagonal 44-40, Skinner aperture rear sight Lead: self-cast 43-215c from 1:20, sized to 0.430. Lube: 40% beeswax, 40% tallow, 10% paraffin, 10% lanolin (and a touch of green crayon for style ) Load: the late John Kort's load for RL7 Data: avg 1423 fps, 217gr bullet Primer: Federal LPM (the photo looks like there are wrinkles, but its just residual lube from pan lube process) Two 3-shot groups at 25 yards before hunt: my groups at 50 yards were within 3". After a bit of exploring, I had a clear shot of a boar at about 40 yards away. I steadied and hit dead on at the shoulder, one shot. It ran about 10 yards before collapsing. It was clear I hit the vitals but I wanted to give it a quick exit so I placed a swift follow-up shot at the earhole. It ended right there. As the boar was quartered, I noticed that the 44/40 did exactly what it was supposed to. The entry shoulder was completely shattered. It passed through the lungs, and then exited through the other shoulder, shattering that as well. Right now I'm bleeding out all the meat under ice for about 4 days then processing. Total bone-in meat yield was 37 pounds. It's going to be three months of good eating for me and my wife. I'll come back to post more pictures of the processed meat and some recipes I make that the misses likes. I personally like it, and so do my dogs but boar has a strong flavor, needs to be treated right for those more discerning of flavor. So many local hunters told me the 44-40 cartridge was too weak to hunt a big bad hog with, and my 'grandpas gun' won't do what a modern AR could. But here's some more proof that they don't know what they're talking about. I couldn't imagine the hog being any more dead, and it happening any faster. Sure beats using my wooden traditional bows, and I sure feel like more of a marksman using a miroku 1866 with open sights vs an AR and scope.
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Too bad the 44-40 is not allowed in at least mid range long distance side matches. Maybe it is to keep an overflux of lever actions out of the race. Accuracy at 265 Yards 12-7-2019 Another wonderful morning at the range. It was 32 degrees when I arrived, clear and no wind. I set up four targets. 7, 25, 200 and 265 yards. I also used the same load for both rifle and revolver. 25.8gr of Reloder 7 and 220gr 43-214A bullets. Starline brass with CCI-300 primers. Rifle is an Uberti Winchester 73' with a Malcom 6x scope. This scope makes a 100 yard target look like a 25 yard target. 1,350fps Rifle, 760fps revolver Revolver is an Uberti "Buckhorn" 44 Magnum with a 44-40 cylinder with a 7" barrel. The Malcom scope is set to 100 yards so I had to adjust and aim high at both 200 and 265 yards. 200 yard adjustment was approximately 24" and 50" at 265 yards. If the scope had been zeroed in at both 200 and 265, the groups would be much better. The idea was to proove the cartridge, not the shooter's skills. After a few shots for "range" at both targets, groups on both targets were kill shots. My skills are 100% lacking due to lack of practice but the cartridge is capable. Funny that a cartridge used in Little Bighorn battle at 300 yard ranges are not allowed in CAS Long Range matches......just saying. 200 yards, after a few "range" shots, it pinned it down pretty good with POA at the top of the target stand....approx 24" high. Ipad linked to camera on spotting scope, 200 yard target POA at 200 yards but needs to be moved right "on target" 265 yards. After several "range" shots off target to the left, one shot high....the target was finally hit!!! VIDEO: Working on "elevation" before moving right. Crosshairs were in the trees approx. 50" high.
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Greetings! I am having a back and forth war with Benelli (importer of Uberti Products) over my 1860 Henry since. I bought it. I have sent it back 4 times and they keep punting it back saying that it works fine for them with there test ammo (Winchester grey box cowboy loads 44-40). My hand loads are made with virgin stair line brass, Missouri Bullet Company 44-40 specific bullets powered with trail boss powder, using the RCBS cowboy dies (the fancy looking ones). I made them to the best of my ability and to spec according to Lymans 50th Ed reloading guide. I have not been able to try it in another lever action rifle because I do not have another smokeless 44-40 rifle to try it in. I do have a Winchester 1873 serial number 421091B, it was made back in 1892. I put dummy rounds loaded the same way through it with no issue. The only factory ammo I have even feed the Henry currently is Fiocchi cowboy stuff. I do plan to order as many other brands possible to try to see if they work better but I am not holding my breath with that angle. The issue is that when you load it with 10 rounds (in my test video I only load 5) and you lever it to chamber a round it jams with the lever locked in the open position unable to feed a round and you have to push the follower forward letting the round slide forward into the magazine to clear the jam. The issue does not happen consistently but you are guaranteed to experience the problem at least 3-4 times per 10 if not more. I already picked up the Magtech Cowboy rounds and Hornedy Cowboy rounds from my local gun shop. One things I was thinking was removing the lifter from my 1873 Winchester in 44-40 and installing it temporally in the 1860 Henry to see if the lifter geometry is the issue. Only if it fits and would not damage the lifter from the 73 Is there something blindingly obvious that I am missing? My current plan is to write a college thesis and beat Benelli over the head and make them repair it. I refuse to spend extra money to repair a brand new gun that arrived as a lemon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The poor dummy rounds I used in the photo is where the lifter is on the lower position have been smashed down me that is why they are much shorter. I made 10 of them trying to understand the problem and they each must have been cycled 10-20 times so they are telescoping pretty good when this image was taken. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The second one is me alternation snap cap then dummy round for the whole magazine. The snap caps feed and function 100% of the time. I managed to push the snap cap into the chamber to try to show the issue I am experiencing (not sure if it does anything). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is the lifter deformed in any way that people can see? It does have some rough edges that I are disappointing to see for the money that I Paid for the dam thing.
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My new Henry Arms H011 New Classic 1860 Henry in .44-40 is the perfect match for my Kirst/Pietta 1860 cartridge conversions. (The H011 is my upcoming January Cowboy Chronicle article) I've been a Henry shooter since I started SASS in 1994, starting with Uberti and Navy Arms (pre-Uberti - US made) until I found the Henry Repeating Arms one. If the Henry Arms 1860 is a Mercedes, the Uberti, which would be a Chevy! The HRA is the slickest, smoothest, from the factory 1860 Henry I have ever had. The fit and finish, the bluing, and polished brass are the richest and nicest of any rifle I have ever owned. Before I got it, the Marlin 1894 Century Limited .44-40 with Doug Turnbull color case and engraving held that spot.
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I am seeking to purchase a Winchester 1892 model carbine with a large loop lever. So far I've only found it available in 45 colt and 44-40. I am interested in the 16" barrel, but can only find it NIB in 20". My question: 44-40 vs 45 colt. Which performs better in factory loads (regardless of cost or availability), and why? Note: I will NOT be reloading, and I don't mind searching for rounds then stocking up. I prefer factory ammo, and I don't care which is less expensive or less available...just which performs better. Intended use: I am interested in using the rifle for indoor/outdoor range shooting, possibly hunting, and hopefully SASS in the future once I get my kit together. Again, I'm not going to reload, ever. I prefer to purchase manufactured ammo. I am also aware of LeverEvolution ammo, which looks intriguing.
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Getting back into the game after a long time due to medical issues. Wife wants to play too. When I last completed it was for fun only, what would I really use in the old west kind of thing. After a decade my go to was a pair of 38-40 colts with 5:1/2" tubes or a pair of San Marco guns identical to them with an original 73 38 wcf to go with. Say what you will about san marco (yes, some were very horrible) a good one with an action job and and the internals heat treated they were great and really close in feel to a 2nd gen colt. Shot almost every gun I could, Remington and Schofield and bisley but this is what I liked. Did most every caliber too. Uberti was great as well but I picked one up at a shop and am not fond of the new 3 click design, I might be able to get used to it but am not sure. From what I see if I want to go with 38 wcf uberti is it right now. I could do 44 wcf in a pietta which is my 2nd caliber choice. Also really prefer "black powder" frames I think wife has settled on 1890 Remingtons in 45, Any input?
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Howdy 44-40 ..What a round, well for Cowboy & using real black, I mainly use 45LC with smokeless but have been using the 44-40's a lot more..yep I know bottleneck case, thin brass & all that but I'm amazed at just how clean my pistols & rifle are after a match..I don't know how long it is since I pulled the rifle [ Uberti '73 ] down it just stays so clean, the lifter block just stays clean & shiney ! A quick pull thru & wipe over & back in the bag.The same with the pistols. [ OMV ] If I had my time over I'd just use the 44-40's for BP & smokeless. I do spend a bit more time on the loading with the method I have but never have a problem with the ammo........ I had to do an edit to say I reckon the 44-40 with BP is actually cleaner than a lot of the smokeless powders !!!!
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I have a NIB A. Uberti 1860 Henry rifle in 44-40 for sale. The brass receiver is beautiful and the bore is bright and shinny. It has sling swivels and all the military markings already on the gun. All the blueing is in perfect shape. I can send additional pictures on request, just e-mail me. I am selling it at the bargain price of only $1300. + Shipping. FFL required. For live shooting the 44-40 cartridge is one of the best for accuracy. If you want to use it for reenacting contact me for information on converting it for blanks. I will also make the conversion forblanks for a small fee you if you want it for blanks.
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I load 32-20 on a 550 and most everything else on a SD or a 1050. Haven't yet reloaded 44-40. Besides lube any tips on loading 44-40 on a progressive Dillon. I know how particular 32-20 can be but after getting that sorted, I thought I would ask on the big .44. Same brass lot from Starline, using Unique and Winchester large pistol primers with a Lazer cast 200gr round nose flat point and Dillon spray lube. Shooting them in Colts, Piettas and a '73 Miroku Winchester. I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have. Last question anyone run black through a 1050 for a 44-40? 3rd Gen Colts
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I'd like some advice. I am interested in buying a lever action rifle and single action revolver (ideally in the same caliber, but not required). I'm a Marine and have a lot of experience with semi-automatics, but little experience with revolvers or lever action rifles. I primarily want them for novelty and fun shooting, which makes me think I should get a pistol caliber such as 357 or 45 LC 1873 or 1892 Winchester. I have no experience with these types of guns, so I don't know what else they are well suited for besides Cowboy Action Shooting, which I'd enjoy getting into someday. So essentially I'm wondering (to figure out which brand/caliber would be best): 1. Which is better between the 1873 and 1892? I've heard that the 1873 has a smoother action, and the 1892 has a stronger action (Although I admit I don't really understand what that means). 2. If I want to use the rifle for hunting, would the 30-30 caliber 1894 be better? 3. For the 1892, is the Chiappa Alaskan Takedown better or worse than the Winchester? 4. Rifle vs carbine vs musket argument? (Picture of musket attached) 5. For the pistol, which is better between Ruger Vaquero and Uberti? Or is there a better one than those? 6. Do Cowboy Action Shooters shoot a lower caliber so they can shoot faster and more accurately? (Such as using a 357 pistol with 38 special rounds in it). Or do they typically go 45 LC or 44-40 for authenticity?
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Marlin 1894CB, 44-40, Hornady 240gr SWC-HP #11118 and a load of Reloder 7. Velocity about 1,425fps. High Pressure, High Velocity not for the Henry, Winchester 66' and 73' weak action style rifles. Deer hit at about 60-75 yards. Hit the top of the shoulder broadside, turned 90deg, road down the spine and stopped in the hind quarters. Processor gave up looking for the bullet until he was cutting up the hind quarters where he found it. Buck dropped straight down, never took a step.
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I wouldn't mind having a set of 1858 conversions in 44/40. I thought I heard some rumors about them binding up when shooting BP. I shoot Goex 99.9% of the time. So I am looking for some feedback on these fine shooting irons. Thanks Cheatin'
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Does anyone know if taking open top 38 cylinders, and reaming them to 44-40 is possible . And if so could you recommend someone.
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Howdy all . I am looking for a Colt copy in 7.5 or 4.75 barrel in 44-40. Thanks
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Hi All, Sadly it's been a while since I made it to a CAS event. I went to the range yesterday and took all my single actions along. Had a great time and it reminded me how much fun it was to shoot those guns. Hopefully that enthusiasm will carry me back to a CAS shoot. Now I'm low on 44-40 ammo, LOL. I used to buy ammo on the web from ammo direct and they appear to be out of business. Does anyone have recomendations for a good place on the web to purchase quality 44-40 ammo at a reasonable price? Thank you muchly for your help, El Sobrante Kid
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Does anyone have a recommendation on 44-40 bullets? I usually go through Missouri for my 45 colt, but they use the same bullet (.430) for their 44-40 and .44 mag.
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I am trying my best to put together some informative information and videos. It ain't easy and I hate my recorded voice!!! Anyhow, I know it ain't CAS although I do plan on testing many different loads and calibers used in the Single Action revolvers, Marlin rifles and even the WInchester 73" at some point. It ain't perfect and I screwed up probably every video but hay....it's a hobby!! Go easy on me, I am fragile!! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9XZjWb-Avz0ZePHK7e2dfsLyaxjrpoP4
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When did they stop making them?I had never seen one,until today on a auction site.I guess they might be better for hunting with hotter load.I went back and looked it is 44-40.