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Bushy Blonco

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  1. Thanks Griff! I like it, and will change my vocabulary accordingly!! It goes along well with another of my favorite sayings: "Those who seek to idiot-proof society underestimate the ingenuity of fools."
  2. Good question, thanks. I'm looking for the shooter's point of view. The Pozo River Villagance Comittee at Lazy Arrow (my home club) is holding our Fourth Annual Lazy Arrow ShootOut, and we want to make it a great time for as many shooters as possible. Check out our Video (featuring yours truly). So far we're hitting most of what's been mentioned here; plus our range is in the middle of a 32,000 acre working cattle ranch, and our Sherrif has his own herd of American Bison that we get to enjoy. Come way out West and shoot with us!
  3. Enough with the horseplay, quit foaling around! It's time to put this thread to pasture, we've herd enough and strayed from the mane topic over two, neigh, three pages. We've discussed all this with unbridled enthusiasm, but I canter-magin there's more to say. I'm getting horse, so it's time to head for the barn and hit the hay.
  4. What are your top five reasons for attending annual matches? Here are some I've heard: Seeing old friends Broader competition Making new friends Chances to win buckles and awards Different and fun stages Side matches Dinners & campgound activites Swap meets Vendors More time to visit with friends Fun theme Location What else gets you there and makes you glad you came??
  5. Well Allie Mo, we always strive to keep all our TOs polite and on their best behavior at PRVC, and we look forward to shooting with you at the Lazy Arrow ShootOut in May!!
  6. The best way I've seen clubs head off problems with a TO of "questionable skill or integrity" is for the posse leader to select and announce the specific folks who will be running the timer on their posse that day. As we've discussed already on this thread, clarity and communication can prevent a lot of unpleasantness.
  7. Ooops, sorry if I digressed OWM! Thanks for keeping us on track, in that spirit... Here's what I have learned from the answers to the OP: There are no defined conventions for "at the ready" or "in hands" other than their literal meaning. It's all about the stage instructions, what do they say? When writing stages, be specific if you want the shooter in a specific position (rifle shouldered and on target), or keep it simple if you want to let the shooter have some options (rifle in hands = any way they want to hold it as long as it's in both hands and safe). Does that sound about right?
  8. As I understand it, the purpose of the Safety Bar on the '73 is to prevent firing until the Toggles are over-center and fully locked. A much safer option to removal of the Safety Bar is to lighten the spring pressure on the Safety Bar and then adjust the Lever Spring so it just overcomes the Safety Bar Spring when closing. This approach preserves the mechanical purpose of a functional safety as designed, but eliminates the extra pressure needed to seat the Lever home, making the action cycle smoother and easier while keeping it safe. Wait, what was this thread about....
  9. The way I was taught, "safely assisting the shooter through the course of fire" includes assessing the shooter's readiness to shoot the stage: assessing the shooter's gear (they have all their guns, hammers down, SG shells, loops off pistol hammers, etc.), assessing the shooter's composure (are they ready and understand the stage), seeing that all guns are staged correctly, and that the shooter is in the correct location and starting position. Yes, it is ultimately the shooters responsibility, but a good TO can do all that checking without saying a word if all is well. I enjoy shooting under a TO that I know is looking me over and looking over my shoulder but is only seen or heard if I need it. When running the clock, it's a good day if I can save someone a P or worse! That was the motive that started this thread, being educated and prepared to do the best we can for the shooters under our charge when we're running the clock. If I am fading or not doing a good job, I will ask for relief. If my friends and I see a TO making mistakes or losing focus, we offer to relieve them pronto; most folks I've met take the responsibility seriously. Everyone taking personal responsibility is what makes CAS so refreshing, we own up to our mistakes whether as shooter or TO, right?
  10. Hi Allie Mo, while I like the first better than the second, when we hold the timer we all should strive to do our job of "safely assisting" to avoid having to apologize! Thanks for sharing your experiences, I don't get to as many matches as I would like, but the helpful dialog on the Wire is a great way to stay sharp and encourage each other to do well.
  11. The plot thickens!! Regarding the penalty question, A diligent friend pointed out this quote from the ROI Student Handbook, page 47: While the TO should do his/her best to not start a competitor in a faulted position or location, the ultimate responsibility of starting position lies with the shooter. A shooter who starts in a faulted position will be assessed a Procedural penalty.
  12. Very helpful comments! Being fairly new to the game, it is a huge help to have you all fill-in-the-blanks regarding interpretation of the SHB and RO courses. As Snakebite said "No rule book can cover every possible 'what-if' situation... it takes common sense." The wealth of information shared on the Wire really helps clarify the practicality of how the rules are applied. Your willingness to share and help develop common sense and personal responsibility in our sport is what sets it apart and makes it such a good time. Thank you for the discussion and education.
  13. The main concern was the definitions of "at the ready" and "in hand". I couldn't find them in the SHB, and wanted to know if there was a convention I was unaware of. As BS said, the terms mean different things to different people, so clarifying is important. Thanks to all for clearing that up.
  14. Thanks for the reply Phantom, I suppose if the TO insisted the instructions were to shoulder the rifle and the shooter refused in order to gain the advantage of a faster reload the only possible call would be "Spirit of the game" and not a "P" since it was intentional and Procedurals are for unintentional mistakes? Or am I missing your point?
  15. Thanks GJ. I thought it was fine, and no-called it, but someone questioned me later. We often have folks visit from other clubs, I want to be consistent in our stage instructions and calls so everyone can have a great time. I'd rather nit-pick my own calls to head off problems than have someone else be bothered with it in the future!!!
  16. Thanks Rance, the scenario called for loading an extra rifle round on the clock; most folks chose to do it after they fired the first 10, but this gal was trying to load it right at the start, so she saw it as an advantage...
  17. Are there conventions for Starting Positions other than those listed in the SHB (Cowboy Port Arms and Default)? Specifically: "(gun) at the ready", or "(gun) in hand"? I was TO, the stage instructions said "Rifle at the ready" the shooter had her rifle in both hands, but not on her shoulder. I told her she could be on target, but she declined; should I have said she MUST be on target with the butt on her shoulder? Would starting as she wanted be a procedural? Thanks.
  18. Speaking of Bison, y'all should know that every one that shoots clean at PRVC is inducted into the "Dead-Eye Gang" and is awarded a coveted Gold Bison Pin each time they shoot clean! This applies to the Lazy Arrow ShootOut as well, so come shoot clean with us and take a Bison home to start your herd! I finally shot clean and got one myself recently. Now it is proudly displayed on my hat:
  19. Snakebite, Excellent guiding statement, just what I was looking for, thanks! Bushy
  20. Here are some photos from last year to encourage you to not miss out on a great time at the Lazy Arrow ShootOut!The team shoot: Sharing dinner with friends at the campground: Bluegrass concert at the awards dinner:The Lazy Arrow Bison herd: Come join us for a fatastic weekend at the Lazy Arrow ShootOut! So much more than a fun match; lots of opportunities to spend time with old friends and make some new ones on a beautiful working cattle ranch!
  21. Thanks to all for the clarifications, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. The beauty of this game is being able to show up at a match anywhere knowing the rules and their application are consistent across the country (and the world!) Two questions: 1) Is this a fair summary of what I'm hearing? While there are many infractions that warrant verbal warnings, the few penalties that should be assessed off-the-Firing-Line would be: belligerent attitude (MDQ), preparing to shoot while under the influence (MDQ), or events that involve having a loaded gun off the firing line (e.g. Loading at other than designated location (SDQ), any discharge of a firearm other than supervised downrange (MDQ).) Another question: 2) How many times do you warn someone about safety violations you see off the line before telling them to put their guns away for the day (MDQ)? For instance, sweeping someone while off the line. I'm sure it depends on the range, and the situation, but what's the general consensus at a SASS match? Two warnings and the third time you're out? Thanks.
  22. Thanks for the replies. My question is do any of the penalties apply when not on the firing line (firing line being from the LT to cleared at the ULT). We all agree that saftey rules apply everywhere, but are the penalties listed on the RO Card to be assessed for rules violations that occur when a shooter is not on the firing line? Thanks again
  23. I have recently been told that the penalties listed on the RO Pocket Card (SHB pg. 42) are only assessed on the firing line. Specifically: sweeping with an unloaded gun, or a dropped unloaded gun are SDQs on the firing line, but no-calls anywhere else. Most of the violations listed on the RO Card can only occur on the firing line, but there are others that can occur elsewhere (sweeping with unloaded gun, dropped unloaded gun, loading at other than designated location, belligerent attitude). My question is: Do any of the penalties listed on the RO Card apply off the firing line? And which ones? Are the five I listed above no-calls with warnings only? I want to be clear and consistent with how our rules are applied. I apologize if I have missed the answer in the SHB or if this has been covered elsewhere. Thanks!
  24. Since we also have some Cowboy Poetry with our Tall Tales at the Lazy Arrow ShootOut: The cowpokes gathered 'round the fire, After shootin' many stages. They'd come to hear the biggest liar, And tales of deeds outrageous. Roger Rapid was a riot, Telling of his pedigree. How he was kin to Wyatt, Even showed his family tree! The clincher was the Buntline, Engraved with Wyatt's name. It moved him to the frontline Of the Tall-Tale hall of fame. The cowpokes roared with laughter, Even Snakebite smiled some, As he put his best side forward, Yup, he turned and shook his bum!
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