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  1. 52 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

    Years ago Hoppes was 'it'. The EPA neutered it, with the removal of Benzine.

    Ballistol is very close to WD-40 in many ways. They are both mineral oil(white oil)based.



    (according to a specification from December 2002)

    • pharmaceutical white oil: CAS RN 8042-47-5
    • Oleic acid: CAS RN 112-80-1
    • C-5 alcohols: CAS RN 78-83-1; CAS RN 137-32-6; CAS RN 100-51-6
    • different essential oils to perfume Ballistol





    I remember years ago hearing that it was "food grade" oil.  I wonder if anyone here might be willing to down a cup of it and let us know how it goes?  :o:D



  2. 4 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said:

    John Boy, thank you for posting this.


    Like Hearsedriver I was surprised on CLP Break Free's status. I love that stuff. 

    Looks like I will be checking out Hornady One Shot. I have never tried this one.


    Same here!  We used to lube our M16-A1's with LSA and they would immediately rust - it may have been a good lube, but it had no preservation properties whatsoever..  Not long before they upgraded us to the M16-A2, they started issuing us CLP and I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.  I still like the stuff, but I'm going to switch to One Shot - I'm already using One Shot Case Lube, so why not?  ;)

  3. Looks like an excellent study!  I think I am sold on One Shot for all non-BP uses. 


    I would caution people about Frog Lube:  While it seems to have all of the properties one would want and it's even BP compatible, I found out the hard way that it will harden into a wax-like substance that ruined my day.  I have been using Ballistol on flintlocks for at least 20 years and when I started shooting C&B a couple of years ago, I would snap caps before loading my gear for a match and never had a problem with ignition. 


    I tried Frog Lube on an evil black rifle and it seemed to work great.  I figured I'd try it with my Navy's, so I cleaned up after a match, lubed them with Frog Lube, put them away in the safe and then the evening before the next match, I snapped caps like normal to be sure they were clear and packed up for the match.  When my turn came at stage one, I had 3 misfires with one gun and four with the other.  It was embarrassing as all get out and I learned a valuable lesson about physically clearing the vents and not simply trusting snapping caps to do the job.  However, what's relevant here is that when I pushed the Frog Lube out of the vents, it had formed a hard wax that a Remington #10 couldn't push out. 


    I'm not saying that it shouldn't be used; simply be aware of what it can do if it collects and hardens.


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    This is only your opinion.


    See my comment above. The Marines only kept their custom made 1911's from 2012 - 2015 and have replaced it with the Glock 19. Special Ops and other highly trained units such as the Green Berets and Navy SEALS should get whatever weapons meet their mission requirements best. This includes such weapons as bow and arrows and crossbows. However all of the Special Forces in the entire U.S. Armed Forces comprised a very small number of personnel in our Armed Forces.


    In fact the Marines were unhappy with the custom 1911 they adopted in 2012;




    However the SIG is apparently being adopted for widespread issued in the U.S. Army. My objection is it does not meet all of the requirements of the MHS Program. (See Post # 25).


    Army brass is doing what Army brass does best. Spend millions of unnecessary dollars for new toys. The Beretta M9A3 addresses most the complaints about the M9. It can be phased in as M9's wear out. Armorers are already trained and logistical system is already place.


    In addition how practical is it really going to be to switch out frames, especially in the field?


    Is the armorer going to switch grip frames during routine training and range qualifications? Non-combat range qualifications usually involve guns being issued from the Armory.


    In the battlefield. Soldier A with size large hands is been issued the gun for todays mission and soldier B with size small hands is going to be issued the same handgun tomorrow. Will different size frames even be available in forward units?


    And, most importantly, our troops are still the same 9mm NATO ball ammunition.



    My opinion is backed by having been in and around the Marine Corps from long before the M9 right up to today and almost no one has a kind word to say about the M9. That was an acquisition based purely on politics and not the needs of the warfighter. I could count on one hand the few that I've seen say kind things about it and statistically they are unicorns. It's time to get rid of it.


    I am also a member of the Quantico Shooting Club and have run and participated in many USPSA and Steel Challenge matches. I almost never see a Beretta at those matches and it's not without reason. The current crop of Marines shoot striker-fired guns at these matches and the Single Stack class has dwindled almost out of existence. The rare birds that do show up with a Beretta in Production class do so because it's the only gun they know and they generally show up a couple of matches later with a Glock or an XD because they've now seen what a disadvantage the M9 puts them in.


    I'm not trying to argue for 1911's - that was my gun of choice for many years and I still have a special place in my heart for them, but technology has passed them by and the "modern tactical pistols" that you refer to are striker-fired guns, not single or double action guns like the 1911 or the M9. The SA/DA's day is over.


    Also, I'm not arguing about caliber; the 9x19 NATO is the standard and nothing any of us say will change that.


    I think we are in agreement that the Sig was not a wise choice. My youngest son is with the BOP and was trained at FLETC, so he has the training you have referred to previously and he also works a second job selling guns. Like me, he has great respect for Sig's quality of construction, but he does not have a high opinion of their latest efforts to compete with Glock and SA in the striker-fired market and he particularly dislikes the 320.


    My personal favorite is the XD Mod.2 because it fits my hand perfectly, I like the grip angle a bit better than a Glock and when fired it falls right back into proper sight alignment. However, I totally support MARSOC's choice of the Glock 19 because anyone can shoot it (my wife has one), it's as close to idiot-proof as a gun can get and it's extremely low maintenance. PD's across America have gone to Glocks for good reason and it's time that the military take politics out of the equation.

  5. Yup, it was probably me.


    Here are four books no self respecting Smith and Wesson aficionado should be without.


    There's a newer addition of this one out now, but I like this one better.









    I got the 5th edition through Amazon from a bookstore in Texas.


    In a way I am just now (re)discovering S&W revolvers. As soon as I turned 21 I bought an RG .38 and then realized what a POS I had purchased, so I went out and bought a new Model 10. It seemed rather plain at the time, but when I think back it was quite a beautiful little revolver! A little later I sold the Model 10 and bought a Model 19, but then I sold it and bought a Colt Commander and 1911's were all I would buy for the next 30 years. However, once I discovered CAS, my interest in revolvers was rekindled and I now have a Model 10 and a Model 64 and I love them. I bought the above manual with no expectation of ever working on them, but instead just to learn more about them and this book has proven to be quite valuable in that effort.


    Thanks again for bringing this to my attention!

  6. ...I believe the focus is no longer on legacy membership, but on newcomers, who don't know the history.


    I think that's the most important statement made in this entire thread.


    This is the beginning of my sixth year, so I'm a relative newcomer, and I'm 58 years old, so I'm relatively young in the world of SASS. We baby boomers grew up playing "Cowboys and Indians" so this game is right up our alley, but my boys who are in their 30's did not. For them it was Transformers or Power Rangers or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and they don't relate to this game at all. I don't have a clue what today's 20 year olds grew up playing.


    The good folks down in Florida came up with a couple of cool videos to attract a younger crowd, but that alone is not enough. I like to say that one shouldn't complain without offering a solution, but in this case, I come up dry. However, if we don't collectively recognize this and if people brighter than me don't come up with some good ideas, then we as an organization will soon age right out of existence.

  7. Just conduct a survey on the SASS Forum about what handgun members will choose if in combat. You are going to get answers from the S&W Model 10 38 Special revolver, various manufacturers .357, .44 and 45 ACP, 45 Colt revolvers, all sorts of semi-autos, and handguns in .223 such as the SIG 556 and AR.


    And then you are going to have s group that want a handgun such as a J-Frame revolver that is small enough to go everywhere with them including to the toilet.


    I wonder how many people that criticize the M-9 have spent much time learning how about it and how to shoot it. It has a far longer production history than the 1911 and has been as much combat as the 1911.


    The simple fact is that the services don't want it and the special ops folks who are more likely than anyone to actually use it have been leading the charge to get rid of it for over 20 years. Do you know something that they don't?

  8. Simple?


    Okay, who do you propose pay for the monitoring of that 6-9 month period's expiration or for the programming changes.


    I do not want to pay for it; nor, am I willing to volunteer to support it.






    If the membership database is on the same server as this website, or is on a server that can be accessed via web services, then it could be made fully automatic (that's the kind of junk I do for the Marine Corps these days). However, in a small organization like SASS, I would bet that the membership database is more likely an Access database sitting on someone's desktop machine.

  9. Search was no help, but someone posted mention of "The S&W Revolvers, A Shop Manual" along with a photo if I remember correctly. Whoever you are, I want to thank you! That manual has a wealth of information, including historical info that I found enlightening.


    Once again, thanks! :)

  10. The M9's long service does not grant it status of any kind. The SEALS and other up-close-and-personal organizations have been trying with some limited success to get away from the M9 since the 90's and the Army has tried to getaway from it before, only to have the funding yanked away for other wartime expenses. Marine Expeditionary Unit Special Operations Capable (MEUSOC) units are switching to the Glock - it's not about the 9mm cartridge; it's about the gun firing it.


    The Marine Corps as a whole is not jumping on the current bandwagon because of deep funding issues and will wait and see how the new handgun works out for the Army. That does not imply any love for the Beretta - I've been with the Marine Corps since 1975 (20 years active duty and a contractor ever since) and I can count the number of people I've seen make positive comments about the M9 on one hand.



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  11. It was a sad day for me when they took away my rattlely old 1911 and issued me an M9. As Col. Cooper used to say, the double action pistol is the perfect solution to a non-existent problem. The M9 never felt right in my hand and while I did OK in single-action mode, that first shot was always a throw-away so I could then get down to the business of properly aiming at the target. ANY of the striker-fired guns they could have chosen from would be an improvement.

  12. Good Afternoon Folks:

    Well, the surgery is over & I'm sitting here in a room, leg wrapped up like an Italian Burrito, plugged in to all the hospital electronics, & doing my exercises.

    They've had me up and walking already.

    I'm gonna do what them therapists tell me to do, so I am up-and-shootin' as soon as possible.

    Rye has offered to pick me up for Saturday's special Tusco Winter shoot, but I don't think my care-takers are gonna let me go.


    I hate to miss it!

    Love spending the day with my friends

    & I wanted to see Kit break in those new 44-40s

    & see if Rye shows up, cuz it's gonna be raining somewhere North of the equator. :P


    Thanks for all the good words, kind thoughts, and prayers.

    I truly appreciate it.





    Maybe Rye could bring a pinch or two of Holy Black so you can make a line of it on the table and put a match to it so at least you get the smell. :D


    Glad to hear you're up and about! :)

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  13. C&B revolvers can be shipped right to my door. Some areas in the state may not allow it.


    It's a shame ya'll don't have a state premption law to put an end to the confusion.



    I think cap and ball are not on the ship to ffl list here. For cowboy guns, never had an issue with a FFL to FFL shipment to California. With modern stuff, if its on the no no list ( even a gen 4 glock), its an issue.


    It's a shame when politicians think more of their dogma than their constituents.



    Today is Lobby Day and we of the Virginia Citizens Defense League are converging on the state legislature to lobby our Delegates and Senators to pass our bills and then have a rally in the courtyard at noon. It's an annual event where good, decent politicians welcome us and provide coffee and the scurrilous types that would feel more at home in Maryland or California flee the building to hide from us. The Anti's do the same thing in the afternoon. Last year there were over 750 of us and only 30 of those other poor creatures and the legislature knows it. ;)


    EDIT: BTW, we all show up carrying, mostly concealed, some openly. If concealed, you simply show your concealed handgun permit and you walk right around the metal detector. One of the bills we are pushing is Constitutional Carry so we don't need these stupid CHP's. :)

  14. I have to go with everyone else on this one - if you are using Holy Black, The One True Powder, then toss them after the first use. They can only bear up to the Heat, Strength and Love one time and thereafter are no longer worthy. ;) Of course, you can get several uses out of them if you use a wannabe powder, but then it is much kinder in the long run to let them See the Light. :)

  15. Be extremely cautious of scrapyard lead. Bulk un-melted WW are ok as is sheet lead. Ignots of unknown composition may contain zinc.


    Even a tiny amount of zinc ruins lead for casting bullets and is difficult bordering on impossible to separate out. If you buy bulk WW be sure to check each one to ensure it is lead and not zinc.


    My dad still has over 2000 lbs of lead in small ingots of various sizes. Problem is some or all of it may contain zinc. As I have no reliable way to know if the ignots have zinc in them they are useless to me for casting bullets...


    Why not test them for the proper hardness, or in this case softness, and if they are soft enough, then why not use them?

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