[WTC - Shotgun Target Falls Down During Rifle and Pistol Sequence.]

11 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:

 

NNV,

I can understand from this scenario why some feel the need for an ROC interpretation,

although I don't.

 

QUESTION:  Where is the penalty when the shooter fires the SG safety downrange,

and fires the correct number of rounds per stage instructions?

Is there a penalty for the shooter when there is a prop failure?

 

And for those who want to interject 'Benefit of doubt goes to shooter',  where is the 'doubt'?

There were 6 KD's, there was 6 shots fired, and there are 6 KD's down.

 

Just my thinking!

 

..........Widder

 

The penalty is to the other shooters.

One TO - 6 shots 6 down ( prop failure or hits doesn’t matter) Next shooter 

Second TO - 4 shots 4 down, 2 shots one down (first a miss or failed to knock target down); 6th target down due to prop failure. TO - fire one more, for the KD that fell due to prop failure.

[WTC - Shotgun Target Falls Down During Rifle and Pistol Sequence.]

Who would have guess this topic would be so difficult to settle. Probably why the ROC has not response since the original OP back in June.

New Scenario (Original OP was 6 SG w/1 target down while engaging other 5)

4 SG any order 4+ shots

#1 hits dirt in from of target #1

#2 hits top of #1 target fails to fall

#3 hits #1 target and falls

#4 hits second target and falls

while shooting first two targets, # 3 & #4 fall on there own.

is shooter done?

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[WTB. Uberti 1866 loading gate]

14 hours ago, Laramie said:

Are you sure that it’s for a uberti? The ladle portion looks quite a bit deeper than mine. 

Bought from VTI, it does have a deep dish.  Screw diameter is 0.115 in.

[WTB. Uberti 1866 loading gate]

Believe it’s the large screw model

Never used $50 includes shipping.

 

[WTC - Shotgun targets]

A good scenario for Branchwater Jack to make for his TFL video series.

[WTC - Shotgun targets]

On 6/8/2021 at 8:27 PM, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

Sent to the ROC for a definitive ruling.

Any response?

[WTC - Shotgun targets]

2 hours ago, Phantom, SASS #54973 said:

So now ricochets don't count? 

 

What the hell is wrong with fixing the target and running the shooter thru the stage again??

 

Good lord...

 

PS: What's your real SASS alias...outta curiosity.

How many remarks if we go down the ricochet rabbit hole?  Seen ricochets count, as long as it’s from the shooter’s gun and only takes down one target, unless stage instructions allow otherwise.  
 

stop shooter when a target fails, fix target, reshoot - sounds like an easy fix,  must be a long list of reasons that suggestion hasn’t made it in the rule book.

 

HK Hawkeye Kid

[WTC - Shotgun targets]

Ranger Dan is getting close.

I would clarify statement - All KD targets (rifle, pistol, shotgun) must be hit and go down to count. KD targets that go down due to target failure still must be engaged - shoot where it was following stage conventions.

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Didn't realize posting picture would be so pain full. Is there some delay on the number of posts?

[1866 Winchester Miroku?]

[1866 Winchester Miroku?]

Ok few pictures