I mentioned elsewhere that my older grandson asked for a chefs knife and a stone to sharpen it. He cooks for his frat buddies for Sunday dinner. They do other meals. He has some goood knives but lm sure that they need some sharpening by now. I did give hime a top rated knife and a stone but I also gave him a steel for honing and a diamond steel so he can do the cheffie thng too. His frat buddies told him he needed a stone and I'm sure that itch would not have gone away till he tried it. I a