Blackwater 53393 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Not only should he have received the pardon, (long overdue and should never have been necessary) but he should be reinstated to his former rank, have the conviction expunged, and receive back pay for the entire time he was held!! 4 Quote
John Kloehr Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 1 minute ago, Blackwater 53393 said: Not only should he have received the pardon, (long overdue and should never have been necessary) but he should be reinstated to his former rank, have the conviction expunged, and receive back pay for the entire time he was held!! That would be good! Also pardoned are George Peterson, Jeremy Kettler, and Shane Cox. 2 1 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 A question arises from this that should be answered quickly. What effect will this pardon have on the case before SCOTUS?? Will that case be mooted or should it go forward. If it’s allowed to go forward it would establish new and potentially powerful precedent for future cases and make the kind of gymnastics used against Adamiak legally prohibited. 2 Quote
John Kloehr Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 5 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said: A question arises from this that should be answered quickly. What effect will this pardon have on the case before SCOTUS?? Will that case be mooted or should it go forward. If it’s allowed to go forward it would establish new and potentially powerful precedent for future cases and make the kind of gymnastics used against Adamiak legally prohibited. Adamiak's petition to the Supreme Court was denied last term. His pardon has no impact on any current case. 1 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 Also Russell Richard Fincher. Do not know his history. Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 4 Posted September 4 (edited) JK!! Are all of these others also 2A related?? Answering my own question! Yes!! All were 2A cases that were apparently overzealously prosecuted by ATF or related agencies. Edited September 4 by Blackwater 53393 2 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted September 4 Posted September 4 Can the officials who persecuted him be charged with malicious prosecution? 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted September 4 Author Posted September 4 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Can the officials who persecuted him be charged with malicious prosecution? Persecuted is a good choice of word in Adamiaks case, every single thing he had was legal for you and I to own. Qualified immunity is still difficult to overcome. He should at least have civil claims for back pay. I hope he does. On qualified immunity. From: (with my bold): https://ij.org/report/unaccountable/the-controversy-over-qualified-immunity/ " In the four decades since its creation, qualified immunity has barred lawsuits against federal, state, and local government officials unless plaintiffs can show that officials violated a clearly established constitutional right. And in practice the bar for being clearly established can be high. " Edited September 4 by John Kloehr Add bold 3 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 5 Posted September 5 They definitely violated his rights. They likely misused the Second Amendment if they didn’t violate it and perhaps the Fourth as well! It could also be claimed that Jeffrey Bodell perjured himself, which denied Adamiak the right to a fair trial!! Both Bodell and BATFE could possibly be held liable, as Bodell acted as an agent of the bureaucracy in his phonied up investigation and his testimony. 2 Quote
Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001 Posted September 6 Posted September 6 I for one , AIN'T gonna hold my breath for the guilty to be charged the rats are protecting the other rats CB 3 1 Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted September 8 Posted September 8 On 9/4/2026 at 4:21 PM, John Kloehr said: Also Russell Richard Fincher. Do not know his history. https://saf.org/oklahoma-gun-dealer-raided-by-atf-takes-plea-but-serious-questions-remain/ 1 1 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted September 9 Posted September 9 2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said: https://saf.org/oklahoma-gun-dealer-raided-by-atf-takes-plea-but-serious-questions-remain/ There are individuals within the BATFE who have been guilty of malicious conduct and malfeasance. Their overreach and fabricated evidence should be rewarded with prosecution and prison time!! 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted September 27 Author Posted September 27 Really would have liked to hear him speak at NRGC. A discussion between William Kirk and Tate Adamiak: 1 Quote
Three Foot Johnson Posted September 29 Posted September 29 Back pay, four years retroactive time in service added to his prior service time, two grade promotion to Senior Chief, and full 20 year retirement four years early. 2 1 Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted Friday at 03:38 AM Posted Friday at 03:38 AM On 9/29/2026 at 12:49 AM, Three Foot Johnson said: Back pay, four years retroactive time in service added to his prior service time, two grade promotion to Senior Chief, and full 20 year retirement four years early. Sure hope he gets all the above. It's the very least the government can do to help set right a severe miscarriage of justice. 1 Quote
John Kloehr Posted Friday at 12:57 PM Author Posted Friday at 12:57 PM Not sure he will get all of that. I did note when he was first arrested and charged, the military continued his pay under accumulated time off. When all of those resources ran out, the military issued him an honorable discharge. Should he wish to return to military service, there does not seem to be any hurdle he needs to clear. 1 Quote
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