sassnetguy50 Posted August 29 Posted August 29 Did some digging after reading an article about a man being prosecuted for trafficking in NY. Excerpt from https://www.ammoland.com/2026/08/new-york-gun-owner-surveillance-legal-purchases/ Vaughn explained how DHS monitors purchases by private citizens. “We just basically track internet purchases from eBay, PayPal, Amazon, different various online companies. We get a list every other month, backdated a month, with people purchasing components that could possibly create a ghost gun, like the rails, the 3D printer.” From 2024 https://www.mrcolionnoir.com/dhs-partnering-with-online-retailers-to-monitor-3d-printer-sales/ Amazon reports about subpoenas https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=TcJQtR5D0vMbya1ktC I haven't found a legal basis for this. Is there a law or regulation requiring marketplace facilitators to report certain purchases? Quote
Sedalia Dave Posted August 30 Posted August 30 No requirement to comply unless DHS has a warrant. Quote
John Kloehr Posted August 30 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, Sedalia Dave said: No requirement to comply unless DHS has a warrant. True. Flip side is a warrant might have a gag order component preventing the company from informing its customers. Some companies have implemented "canary" statements in various industries. 3D printers would be a good candidate for them. A "canary" is an occasional statement stating the company has not been served with such an order. When the company no longer issues (or changes the wording of ) an occasional canary... Then something changed. Example of a "canary": https://cortexos.app/warrant-canary/ Australia and several other countries outlaw issuing canaries. The concept is that any change in the text of a canary indicates that particular wording no longer applies. A gag order may prohibit disclosure or related speech but can not compel a speaker to issue a falsehood. Apple started issuing canaries in 2013, at some point it stopped issuing them. A canary does not protect any information from getting turned over, a change or failure to issue one in the future can provide a signal some information has been disclosed. 1 Quote
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