Whiskey?

[PowderRiverCowboy]

Well, sir I cannot help you on this for sure. I have had 2 complete Anthrax vax series for combat. One of the nice little side effects of whichever series (different vax) is loss of smell which translates to loss of taste, for me to taste anything its got to be a strong taste do my coffee dark roast and extra strong. 
 Which this makes it easy the cheap stuff tastes just the same to me as the expensive stuff.

 

Now if you really want a rabbit hole on the entire Anthrax Vax and letters sent that started the entire BS look no farther then Dr. Bruce Edwards Ivins the Anthrax Doc that was having his research funding cut and created the whole scare and then the Vax , trust science yeah right Thanks 

 

 

[watab kid]

23 hours ago, El Chapo said:

 

Nothing documented is different, it's the same juice as Knob Creek or even Jim Beam white label that is $12 a fifth.  It's all about how it changes in the barrel, which is is mostly subjective.  A GCMS might be able to identify the compounds in it that are different, but I'm not aware of any whiskey company who has that sort of scientific analyst on the staff.  That's what makes whiskey fun, aging it in a new oak barrel is like an adventure, you never know what you're going to get.  And that is what makes America's spirit different than foreigners, who don't require the use of new oak barrels, and as a result, their whisky/whiskey doesn't age like ours.  

 

The resulting juice also has very different properties, for example, several people here have said they their favorite Basil Hayden, which to me is like water.  Knob Creek, the exact same recipe, goes into a bottle at 100 proof instead of 80, and the experience is totally different, the former I got as a gift and would never buy, the latter is so good that I question why anyone would want to pay $100+ for a fifth when Knob Creek 9 is $24.

 

Hard to believe that they are literally the same recipe, but it's true.  When the white whiskey goes in the barrel, you never know if it's going to become Jim Beam white label, Knob Creek 21, or Booker's.  But that's part of the adventure of American whiskey.

interesting , i knew they aged in oak but i didnt realize they get more than one brand from the same base mix 

[El Chapo]

42 minutes ago, watab kid said:

interesting , i knew they aged in oak but i didnt realize they get more than one brand from the same base mix 

 

Yep.  A lot of brands are like that.  Even the fancy Jack Daniel's is literally the same juice as Old #7 when it goes in the barrel.  Some of them grow up to be amazing, and others get bottled into your typical $20 a fifth brand.  It's pretty amazing when you think about it.  Weller Special Reserve and Pappy Van Winkle 23, for example, are the same mash bill and started out as the same white whiskey.

 

Sometimes I even prefer the cheaper option.  Other times I can't tell very much difference at all.  Sometimes they're like night and day.

[watab kid]

20 hours ago, El Chapo said:

 

Yep.  A lot of brands are like that.  Even the fancy Jack Daniel's is literally the same juice as Old #7 when it goes in the barrel.  Some of them grow up to be amazing, and others get bottled into your typical $20 a fifth brand.  It's pretty amazing when you think about it.  Weller Special Reserve and Pappy Van Winkle 23, for example, are the same mash bill and started out as the same white whiskey.

 

Sometimes I even prefer the cheaper option.  Other times I can't tell very much difference at all.  Sometimes they're like night and day.

guess i gotta sample some to see what i think , gives me an excuse to try some out of my norm , 

[El Chapo]

23 hours ago, watab kid said:

guess i gotta sample some to see what i think , gives me an excuse to try some out of my norm , 

Start with Wild Turkey 101, it's cheap and you can thank me later.

[watab kid]

2 hours ago, El Chapo said:

Start with Wild Turkey 101, it's cheap and you can thank me later.

i will do that thank you , 

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

After eight years after it stopped being imported to the U. S. I finally scored two 750 mg bottles of Glava, a tangerine and honey spiced liqueur Scotch whiskey made in Scotland.  That was seven years ago.

 

I don't drink any more but a couple of tablespoons over French vanilla ice cream two or three times a year is a wonderful treat.  I still have around 1 3/4 bottles left.  I may not live long enough to finish it all off.

[J-BAR #18287]

I read a review of Woodford Reserve Double Oaked calling it "dessert".

 

I tried it tonight, very pleasant, and the bottle was $46.95 before tax.

 

Day in and day out, I prefer Jameson's or some kind of Glenmorangie.  But Woodford Reserve Double Oaked is worth a try if you like Bourbon.

[El Chapo]

19 hours ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

I read a review of Woodford Reserve Double Oaked calling it "dessert".

 

I tried it tonight, very pleasant, and the bottle was $46.95 before tax.

 

Day in and day out, I prefer Jameson's or some kind of Glenmorangie.  But Woodford Reserve Double Oaked is worth a try if you like Bourbon.

 

Try Old Forester 1910 next time, it's even better.  Although Woodford is very good, and both are owned by the same company.

[J-BAR #18287]

11 minutes ago, El Chapo said:

 

Try Old Forester 1910 next time, it's even better.  Although Woodford is very good, and both are owned by the same company.

I have tasted Old Forester Statesman and it was dandy!

[El Chapo]

3 minutes ago, J-BAR #18287 said:

I have tasted Old Forester Statesman and it was dandy!

 

Never had that one, I have the 1910, 1920, and the 100 proof.  The 1910 is double oaked, the 1920 is an even richer 115 proof but not double oaked, and the OG 100 proof is one of the best bottles under $30.  The 1910 probably makes my top 5 of all time, and is definitely in the top 10.

[Cemetery]

On 8/29/2026 at 2:52 AM, Buckshot Bear said:

 

Looks tasty!

[J-BAR #18287]

6 minutes ago, Cemetery said:

 

Looks tasty!

I would sample it!

 

 

 

[Cemetery]

Been on a Crown Royal, and Seagrams 7 kick.  7 & 7 baby, damn tasty.

[Templeton]

My favorite Rye is Barrell Seagrass.  But I’d be remiss not to mention my namesake, Templeton Rye.  

[Still hand Bill]

On 8/29/2026 at 7:59 AM, El Chapo said:

 

I am really curious to try this now.  I do like some scotches, they're more of a special occasion thing for me.  

 

 

Every state's law is different on this because of the 21st Amendment.  I was in Colorado recently and surprised to learn that while one can purchase beer/wine in a grocery store, they don't sell liquor other than in liquor stores and some grandfathered-in drugstores.

 

New Mexico's law for package allows even hard liquor to be sold in gas stations (which surprised me when I moved here), but it is very expensive to open any kind of liquor bar ($800k-$1 million for a license), so we have very few full liquor bars compared to wineries and breweries.  They did pass a law a few years ago allowing distilling of craft liquors, but the two craft distilleries we have local make absolutely awful whiskey that even they won't sell for a neat pour.

Colorado law changed 6-7 Years ago.  It used to be only 1 liquor license per owner.  That’s why all the chain grocery stores didn’t sell anything other than 3.2 beer.    Now that is no longer the case and the number of licenses is expanding.  Also they changed the definition of fermented malt beverage and malt liquor to be the same, thus no more 3.2 beer at convince/grocery stores.  It was interesting to listen to why the laws were the way they are/were.   Lots of things originated from late 1800 issues and then prohibition.  
 

Colorado was a friendly state for distillers.  You could self distribute and could have two tasting rooms.   Made a bit of whiskey.   

[Smokin Gator SASS #29736]

When I was under 21 we thought Seagrams 7 was the good stuff. It's actually 25% whiskey and 75% neutral grain spirits similar to vodka.

[Stump Water]

13 hours ago, Still hand Bill said:

Colorado law changed 6-7 Years ago.  It used to be only 1 liquor license per owner.  That’s why all the chain grocery stores didn’t sell anything other than 3.2 beer.  

 

I thought North Carolina was the last 3.2 beer holdout, but it's been more than 6-7 years since that changed here.

[Brock]

3 hours ago, Stump Water said:

 

I thought North Carolina was the last 3.2 beer holdout, but it's been more than 6-7 years since that changed here.

Minnesota 

[Still hand Bill]

10 hours ago, Stump Water said:

 

I thought North Carolina was the last 3.2 beer holdout, but it's been more than 6-7 years since that changed here.

Colorado had it until it changed about 6 years ago.  They actually had two licenses, malt liquor and fermented malt beverage.  One was 3.2 the other was higher.  Grocery could sell 3.2 and liquor stores could sell higher.  Then the law changed by making the definition the same for both.  Caused some issues as 3.2 could be sold in locations that didn’t allow liquor stores.  
 

I think Iowa also has 3.2 beer still.  I don’t drink it so I never looked, but it was when I was a kid.  

[El Chapo]

20 hours ago, Still hand Bill said:

Colorado had it until it changed about 6 years ago.  They actually had two licenses, malt liquor and fermented malt beverage.  One was 3.2 the other was higher.  Grocery could sell 3.2 and liquor stores could sell higher.  Then the law changed by making the definition the same for both.  Caused some issues as 3.2 could be sold in locations that didn’t allow liquor stores.  
 

I think Iowa also has 3.2 beer still.  I don’t drink it so I never looked, but it was when I was a kid.  

 

Iowa didn't have 3.2 beer when I was there in 2010-2013 to my knowledge.

 

Is that a column still in your avatar?

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

On 8/30/2026 at 5:58 AM, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said:

Ceegareets and whuskey and wild wild women!

They'll drive you crazy they'll drive you insane!
 

 

How't they get that past the copyright laws?

[H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619]

4 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

How't they get that past the copyright laws?

I just made it for fun.  I make no money.  Falls under the Fair Use and parody provisions.

And I did it the old fashioned way, on video tape.   And I did it the hard way, no time code.