Changing a Tyre

[Subdeacon Joe]

Or tire if you insist on American spelling  

 

 

 

 

 

[Alpo]

I'm impressed with his accuracy. Took full overhead swings with those tools and did not hit the wheel.

 

I guess nobody told him about tightening the lugs in a star pattern.

 

Do they not balance the wheels for a semi? I don't know. But that's the thing that I noticed immediately was they didn't balance it after he put the new tire on.

[Subdeacon Joe]

22 minutes ago, Alpo said:

Do they not balance the wheels for a semi? I don't know. But that's the thing that I noticed immediately was they didn't balance it after he put the new tire

 

 

Um....

 

You didn't notice that it was a roadside repair?

[Cypress Sun]

25 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

 

Um....

 

You didn't notice that it was a roadside repair?

 

Hell, I was impressed that he didn't fall on his a** when he jumped on the tire. The guy taking the video had some guts. Wonder how he put 100 lb's of air in it. I doubt it was an air tank.

[Alpo]

1 hour ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

 

Um....

 

You didn't notice that it was a roadside repair?

I noticed it was a roadside repair. And I was eagerly waiting to see how he was going to balance it.

 

If I was going to work on a semi truck with a flat tire, I think I would take a mounted tire out there with me. Just take off the flat one and put on the flat one.

[Subdeacon Joe]

1 hour ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

Hell, I was impressed that he didn't fall on his a** when he jumped on the tire. The guy taking the video had some guts. Wonder how he put 100 lb's of air in it. I doubt it was an air tank.

 

Looked like he came close. 

Probably has a compressor on his truck. He's using a pneumatic driver, so pull that off and put on a chuck, and Bob's your uncle. 

 

17 minutes ago, Alpo said:

I noticed it was a roadside repair. And I was eagerly waiting to see how he was going to balance it.

 

If I was going to work on a semi truck with a flat tire, I think I would take a mounted tire out there with me. Just take off the flat one and put on the flat one.

 

It's hard for me to be sure, but it looks like that's on the trailer, and it's 50/50 if those get balanced. 

 

Might could be that when the truck driver gets back to the yard it will be pulled and balanced. 

[Sheriff Dill]

By looking at the size of his arms. Doing that work is an easy task for him especially the way he tosses the rim and tires around. As for the balancing. Alot of truck company’s only balance the drive and steering tires. Or some use a liquid balancer that automatically spreads throughout the tire when it rotates. Didn’t see him do that but never know if the silver greed looking stuff was that or just the lubricant to get the tire over the rims edge easier. 

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

Not his first day.....  🙃

[Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967]

I had two thoughts:

 

First, I don' wanna do that.

 

Second, that's a fella I'd like to have on my side in a bar fight!  

[Cypress Sun]

59 minutes ago, Hardpan Curmudgeon SASS #8967 said:

I had two thoughts:

 

First, I don' wanna do that.

 

Second, that's a fella I'd like to have on my side in a bar fight!  

 

This!! ^^^

[Eyesa Horg]

2 hours ago, Alpo said:

Just take off the flat one and put on the flat one.

He didn't need a second flat🤣

[Eyesa Horg]

I've done it on antique trucks and it took me way longer than that guy!!!! And I didn't throw em around like that either!

[Blackwater 53393]

Forty years ago, I did that occasionally for one or another of the trucking companies I worked for right after Schoolmarm and I were married.

 

Back then, about half of the truck tires you’d encounter were mounted on split rims that hed two or three pieces.  Ya’ learned quickly how to handle each kind because if the new tire wasn’t mounted correctly, it could, (and sometimes DID) kill somebody!!

 

Nobody balances a replacement tire on the side of the road!!  As someone above said, some outfits don’t balance trailer tires at all!!

 

The guy in the video is waaaaay better than I ever was!! He knows his business! You NEVER inflate a truck tire unless it’s solidly mounted or placed in a fixture/cage designed for the purpose, unless you are stupid!!

[Eyesa Horg]

I had a split ring let go once and it embossed "Armstrong" in mirror image into the siding in my shed to forever remind me! 

[Stump Water]

I also had two thoughts...

 

Most guys I've seen can't change an automobile tar that fast using the pressing machine in the shop.

 

He hand-started all of the lug nuts.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Blackwater 53393 said:

You NEVER inflate a truck tire unless it’s solidly mounted or placed in a fixture/cage designed for the purpose, unless you are stupid!!

 

Why?

[Eyesa Horg]

Can you say "bomb"! It's amazing how fast one will kill you if it lets go.

 

I was lucky that the valve stem and I were on the back side, and still knocked me over and made some nice purplish, yellow, green marks on me. It would have been real bad if I was in front where that 20" ring came off. Still amazes me 50nyears later the imprint the rubber tire left in the plywood sheathing with a deep half moon below it from the ring!

Edited Wednesday at 10:05 PM by Eyesa Horg
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[Stump Water]

3 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said:

... if it lets go. 

 

 

[Eyesa Horg]

Some rims are made in pieces that interlock and air pressure holds them together. When inflating upwards of 120 pounds plus and an interlock doesn't hold it will come apart like a bomb.

Blackwater has way more experience with these type rims than I, maybe he can explain it better. There's a serious reason truck tires are inflated in cages. My battery is running low or I'd do a search for a video of it happening.

[Sedalia Dave]

That's the easiest I've ever seen a tire get broken down.  I've done a few with hand tools on the farm when I was a teenager and NONE were even close to that easy. 

 

A few tractor tires took all day to get the beads broken and just one side off the rim so the tube could be removed. BTW Tractor tires were always done while still on the tractor. We sped the process up considerably when we built a hydraulically powered brad breaker. However it required 2 people to use.

 

Looked similar to this but instead of a jack it had a hydraulic cylinder that was powered by the tractor.

 

 

Unlike the picture the tire was still on the tractor and not on the ground as they were too heavy for even two to handle. Without added weights a 500 lb assembly was about the norm.

[Texas Maverick]

Definitely wasn't his first rodeo.

 

He was just brushing grease on the tires and/or rims just to help ease the tire onto the rims. If you didn't grease them you were not going to get the tire to slide onto the rim. Did a fair amount of them in my  younger days when I worked at a Phillips 66 gas station.

 

TM

[Blackwater 53393]

Split rim wheels are notorious for flying apart when they’re being inflated. Whether it’s because the rim was assembled incorrectly by accident or because there is hidden damage that went unnoticed.

 

I actually saw a young tire changer slammed against a twenty foot ceiling in a truck shop when one let go. He came down in two pieces and was dead before he hit the floor. It’s one of the most grizzly things I have ever seen!!

 

This was in the mid seventies, just about the time that safety cages first came out. Knowledgeable tire technicians would place the split rim on the ground, face down with chains wrapped around the rim and tire!

 

Inflating new truck tires is a little safer now that the split rim wheels are gone, (I don’t know if the government outlawed them or tire people just refused to service them anymore) but it’s rare but not unheard of for a tire to blow off of a one piece rim!

 

Here’s a great place to heed that old axiom “The ass you save may be your own!!”

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:44 PM by Blackwater 53393

[Subdeacon Joe]

 

 

 

 

[Eyesa Horg]

And there's "letting go".

[Subdeacon Joe]

 

 

 

[Blackwater 53393]

44 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

 

 

Then you latch the tire chuck onto the valve stem and step aside until thr tire is well inflated!

 

I’ve seen those tire beads jump the rim a time or ten, even on the steel rim more than once!!

 

 

[watab kid]

i used to change tires , tyres on my trucks but im old enough to know my limitations these days ill not do it unless its a severe situation - my back is a severe situation that overrides a lot ofany stupid young thining i currently retain 

[Stump Water]

13 hours ago, watab kid said:

i used to change tires , tyres on my trucks but im old enough to know my limitations these days ill not do it unless its a severe situation

 

Likewise. 

 

I've hated working on cars since helping dad as a yonker.   Nevertheless, I used to do all the automotive work in the driveway - from changing oil to alternator, water pump, clutch, whatever.   Economics ya know.  My personal "economy" changed and I don't do any of it now. 

[Stump Water]

"Blowing" a tar back on the rim has always amused me.  But I don't think I have the fortitude to try it.  😬

 

 

[Sedalia Dave]

Some enterprising fellow when I was in highschool were attempting to mount tires on a 2 piece bolt together rim off of a John Deere 45 combine. They couldn't get the new tire to seat so they decided that starting fluid was the solution. After giving it a little shot of ether they were worried that it wasn't enough because the tire was a lot larger than a car tire. So they decided to give it some more. Needless to say there were more than a few beers involved. Only smart thing they did is stand to the side when they lit the tire. With all the starting fluid they used the tire inflated with enough force that it ripped the rim in half where it was bolted together. It hit the concrete wall on the other side of the shop. Smashed the rim flat and left a large circular impression in the wall. Also blew out the shop windows and damaged some hearing.

[watab kid]

9 hours ago, Stump Water said:

 

Likewise. 

 

I've hated working on cars since helping dad as a yonker.   Nevertheless, I used to do all the automotive work in the driveway - from changing oil to alternator, water pump, clutch, whatever.   Economics ya know.  My personal "economy" changed and I don't do any of it now. 

exactly - did all those things in the 60s 70s , 60s and 90s but ats all changed in recent years , my back wont take it , cars/trucks have gotten so stupid complicated and im just no longer interested in saving the money at the cost to my welfare 

[Texas Joker]

@Sedalia Dave on tractor tires dismount pull the valve stem, deflate and drive over it with another tractor. Or if it's rim bolted to center plate place the deflated tire under the plate and lower the jack to use the tractor weight to break thr bead.