Be careful which button you push

[DeaconKC]

I did one that became a legend. Before retiring I was a Field Parole Agent for the Illinois Department of Corrections,and I worked a High Risk Unit. I was in and out of their houses, etc all day long. I took over an hundred back to prison upon catching them violating Parole, our Unit was nothing but rapists, molesters and ultra violent felons. One of the ironclad rules was NO contact of any kind with victims. 

Well, one day I get a call from a Parole Board member who wanted me to allow victim contact at the victim's request. I told him he would have to send me a written order from the Board to allow this. He knew he couldn't get two other members to do this, so he was trying for an end run. I told him that from then on everything had to be in writing in an email and copied my Boss [a Great guy!]. This continued until several more people in DoC  were involved. Every one of them supported me 100%. Finally one day I got an email telling me to allow this from the Board Member, as he had NO authority over us, he couldn't do that. When I went to forward it to my Boss I included the comment "What kind of industrial grade crack is this guy smoking?". I then hit reply to all instead of forward! I didn't realize it until my Boss called about 15 minutes later, telling me he had just gotten off the phone with his boss! His boss had just gotten off the phone with this Board Member and had told him off. When he spoke with my boss, thankfully he was laughing.

But yeah, that became kind of a legend and a definite teaching moment.

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

OOOOOPS, ........ maybe ...

[Alpo]

These parole violators - once they were back in prison, they were allowed visitors, weren't they?

 

Seems to me that if the raped or the molested or the violently attacked wished to have contact with the raper or the molester or the attacker, they could just go to the prison on visitors day.

 

Would not have anything to do with the parole board.

[Eyesa Horg]

Guillotine works for me.

[Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062]

8 minutes ago, Eyesa Horg said:

Guillotine works for me.

 

 

        ...... tall tree, short rope .....

[Cypress Sun]

46 minutes ago, Alpo said:

These parole violators - once they were back in prison, they were allowed visitors, weren't they?

 

Seems to me that if the raped or the molested or the violently attacked wished to have contact with the raper or the molester or the attacker, they could just go to the prison on visitors day.

 

Would not have anything to do with the parole board.

 

One of my cousins is in a Florida State prison. Only individuals that are on an approved list can visit him and only ten people can be approved. Anyone who's not on the list cannot visit him under any circumstances. 

 

As far as the right button to push, remember when there were radios in work trucks to communicate with the office and other workers in other trucks? Cell phones were non-existent.

I learned pretty quick that once you're done talking on the radio to hang the mic back onto the holder on the dashboard.

 

Don't put it between your legs while driving or anywhere else that the mic button can be engaged accidentally. While amusing to your coworkers in other vans, the bosses in the office where the base station is DO NOT think it's amusing to hear the occupants of the work van talk to each other about what they really think of management.

Edited April 16 by Cypress Sun

[Eyesa Horg]

24 minutes ago, Cypress Sun said:

 

One of my cousins is in a Florida State prison. Only individuals that are on an approved list can visit him and only ten people can be approved. Anyone who's not on the list cannot visit him under any circumstances. 

 

As far as the right button to push, remember when there were radios in work trucks to communicate with the office and other workers in other trucks? Cell phones were non-existent.

I learned pretty quick that once you're done talking on the radio to hang the mic back onto the holder on the dashboard.

 

Don't put it between your legs while driving or anywhere else that the mic button can be engaged accidentally. While amusing to your coworkers in other vans, the bosses in the office where the base station is DO NOT think it's amusing to hear the occupants of the work van talk to each other about what they really think of management.

Used to see that happen at phone company 🤣 .  It was usually inappropriate language on that came over the base station that sat on a table surrounded by secretaries. Sometime comical however!

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

1 hour ago, Eyesa Horg said:

Guillotine works for me.

I've been beating that drum for many years.  

[Calamity Kris]

Uno and I have worked for government contractors our entire careers.  We learned first hand about watching out who you send to and what you send.

 

To ensure we are compliant with security practices, we have annual industrial security training so we understand what we can say and do and with whom we can communicate etc.  This one security briefing took an interesting twist.

 

To show the employees that the company email is in fact monitored at all times by security, the presenter posted on screen for all to see a personal email between two employees.  The recipients name was redacted but the signature block of the sender was not.  The sender discussed the level of incompetence in their department with rather descriptive terms using not very polite nick names, how they hated the dreaded "staph" meetings each week, and how they loathed the executives.  They  later went on to talk about their dating plans for the weekend.....  They finished the email off with DaMn as their signature block.  

 

The recipient was me.

 

The sender was Uno

 

The DaMn are his initials...........

 

I was extremely careful what I said in email after that...........

[DeaconKC]

On 4/16/2026 at 3:02 PM, Alpo said:

These parole violators - once they were back in prison, they were allowed visitors, weren't they?

 

Seems to me that if the raped or the molested or the violently attacked wished to have contact with the raper or the molester or the attacker, they could just go to the prison on visitors day.

 

Would not have anything to do with the parole board.

Most prisons only allow approved visitors and victims are not allowed.

[Alpo]

Shows how much I know about prison.

[DeaconKC]

Just now, Alpo said:

Shows how much I know about prison.

Congratulations, I'm serious.

[watab kid]

i know our local one just opens the door and lets them walk out when done with term , its not far from campus here so we lost a young coed when they did that a while back , there are a lot of things about how our system works that upset me , 

 

was talking with a retired local cop this evening , sjhe was responsible for getting a parole violator back in jail , he was a registered sex offender that lied about where he lived ....and got away with it till she documented it , this happens every day and she is no longer on the job - who is seeing that they are reincarserated for violating their parole ? 

[sassnetguy50]

4 hours ago, DeaconKC said:

Most prisons only allow approved visitors and victims are not allowed.

Is communication through an intermediary allowed?  An example, if the raped decides to have the baby and needs medical history from the rapist.

[DeaconKC]

6 minutes ago, sassnetguy50 said:

Is communication through an intermediary allowed?  An example, if the raped decides to have the baby and needs medical history from the rapist.

That would be covered under Victim Services. 

[Dapper Dave]

Visitors are also background checked, screened and have to pay to apply. Victims would not be authorized. 

[DeaconKC]

20 hours ago, watab kid said:

i know our local one just opens the door and lets them walk out when done with term , its not far from campus here so we lost a young coed when they did that a while back , there are a lot of things about how our system works that upset me , 

 

was talking with a retired local cop this evening , sjhe was responsible for getting a parole violator back in jail , he was a registered sex offender that lied about where he lived ....and got away with it till she documented it , this happens every day and she is no longer on the job - who is seeing that they are reincarserated for violating their parole ? 

Here is where it really depends on the State's laws and what kind of regulations for parolees'. In Illinois, there were specific laws and a separate division on Parole after 2003. Before that [and like most states] they were watched under an Agent's counties that they covered, along with drug users, bad checks, etc. Every County would have a Deputy trained in the laws, so they would keep track of the SO. 

[watab kid]

59 minutes ago, DeaconKC said:

Here is where it really depends on the State's laws and what kind of regulations for parolees'. In Illinois, there were specific laws and a separate division on Parole after 2003. Before that [and like most states] they were watched under an Agent's counties that they covered, along with drug users, bad checks, etc. Every County would have a Deputy trained in the laws, so they would keep track of the SO. 

not here - just let them walk and reoffend