The Windows 11 Crisis Explained Like You're 5

[Sedalia Dave]

 

 

 

[WD Farren]

The Microsoft engineering team published the registry settings to disable TPM checking.

 

This can be incorporated into the Win11 installer along with disabling the default Bit Locker disk encryption along with many other nannies and bloat ware.

 

Windows 12 is out in October of 2026 so they make plug all these options.  And we have to start all over again.

 

I have no doubt that turbo tax and others will not launch on anything lower than Win12 after it comes out, same as they do today with Win11.

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

1 minute ago, WD Farren said:

I have no doubt that turbo tax and others will not launch on anything lower than Win12 after it comes out, same as they do today with Win11.

Just as an FYI, we were able to do our taxes using the online version of TurboTax on my Windows 10 confuser.

[WD Farren]

Online has nothing to do with TT on a workstation.

 

Online is a web based app, not an executable running on your computer.

Edited February 15 by WD Farren

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

9 hours ago, Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 said:

Just as an FYI, we were able to do our taxes using the online version of TurboTax on my Windows 10 confuser.

 

8 hours ago, WD Farren said:

Online has nothing to do with TT on a workstation.

 

Online is a web based app, not an executable running on your computer.

I'll take your word for it.  I only post this because some people, (myself included), had gotten the impression, due to discussions about it, that one couldn't file with TurboTax on a Windows 10 confuser. You can. 

[WD Farren]

Intuit is the parent of Turbo Tax, Lacerte Tax Prep and Quickbooks.
Intuit and other vendors (ON1) have decided their software will only launch on the latest version of Windows.
IMO, they have been bribed for this planned obsolescence, but I have no proof, just supposition.

Other than older windows no longer supported for Microsoft's never-ending list of bugs and holes, there is no technical reason for requiring this.

 

The factory Win11 setup uses the WinPE installer system on the DVD.
This checks for TPM 2.0 in hardware and for the UEFI hardware for secure boot.

This factory installer will refuse to install without the above two being present.

 

For myself and my clients, I create an "autounattend.xml" installation script on the Win11 DVD media.
This tells the installer NOT to check for TPM, not to check for UEFI, do not encrypt the disk, and not install many other annoyances.

One has the option to not install all the bloatware, xbox stuff, widgits, reporting telemetry (read: snooping) and advertising.

 

There is a fear/rumor that this type of installation might cause problems with Windows updates.

As of this writing, I have done several clean bare metal Win11 installs on "unsupported" hardware without a problem.
The resulting install is as lean as it can get, and has zero problems with repeated windows updates.

 

This installation script file does NOT work with an in-place upgrade from Win10 to Win11.
It always installs a fresh system and all previous installed software is lost.

 

Win12 is out in October of 2026, so I expect all of this to change.
Again.

 

[Colorado Coffinmaker]

 

I found the simplest solution to Windows many years ago.  It's called "MAC"

[El Chapo]

1 hour ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said:

 

I found the simplest solution to Windows many years ago.  It's called "MAC"

 

They definitely want you to think that's a "simple" solution.  They're the originators of proprietary software and making you dependent.  Anything Microsoft learned to extract from their customer base, they learned from apple, including the invention of Windows, which sought to duplicate the Apple GUI based experience that already existed.

 

What is hilarious about all of this is that although I prefer to use a computer, other than for work, it would be possible for me to never use a computer again.  The joke's on them.

[Stump Water]

13 minutes ago, El Chapo said:

 

Anything Microsoft learned to extract from their customer base, they learned from apple, including the invention of Windows...

 

 

... and the mouse.  Which Apple "borrowed" from Xerox.

 

15 minutes ago, El Chapo said:

 

What is hilarious about all of this is that although I prefer to use a computer, other than for work, it would be possible for me to never use a computer again.  

 

Likewise, except no more work for me.  Although I prefer a computer over the phone.  I don't do social media or anything on my phone except phone, text and take the occasional pic.  

 

And speaking of phone.  Windows 8 was an amusing debacle.  "Let's make our UI look like a smart phone because pretty soon tablet PCs with touch screens will be all that exist." 

[Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770]

6 hours ago, El Chapo said:

What is hilarious about all of this is that although I prefer to use a computer, other than for work, it would be possible for me to never use a computer again.  The joke's on them.

 

5 hours ago, Stump Water said:

Likewise, except no more work for me.  Although I prefer a computer over the phone.  I don't do social media or anything on my phone except phone, text and take the occasional pic.   

I was a truck driver. I didn't need a computer to work. I used it then, like now, purely for recreational purposes, so I also could do without it if I needed to. 

This forum here, and a few others I haunt are all the social media I do. I only do that on my desktop, because the only thing I use my FLIP PHONE for is making phone calls. It's a phone to me. Nothing more.