Lawdog Dago Dom Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Rock Island Armory Pak-Out: Folding Shotgun -- SHOT Show 2026 1 Quote
Alpo Posted February 4 Posted February 4 THIS is a backpack shotgun. Will not be available here because - a) it is NFA, and b) it was (they made it for about 15 years but it's been discontinued) made in Russia and therefore I think it is unimportable. Tula. Folding bolt action 20 gauge shotgun. Designed from the get-go to carry in your backpack when camping. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOZ-106 Wow. The link could not be embedded?? Well, hell. I guess you would have to cut and paste the url. Folding stock, 14 inch barrel, two round detachable box magazine, comes with two magazines. Under folder. Quote
watab kid Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) interesting shotgun , i didnt realize rock island was into shotguns , i would have expected keltec to do one like that , theTOZ 20ga is kinda cool , but i have one of their bullpup 12ga autos already Edited February 5 by watab kid Quote
Pat Riot Posted February 4 Posted February 4 That’s really cool. I think I may need one of those. Quote
Finagler 6853 Life Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I'm not saying that I have one but if I were to want a backpack shotgun, I would watch the local gun auctions, purchase the least expensive single shot shotgun that is in good working condition, easy to take down, have the barrel shortened to 18 1/2 inches with a choke tube installed by a competent gunsmith and then put one of those sleeves on that holds ammo. I'm not sure what I would do with such a thing but it would be handy to have. Quote
Sgt. C.J. Sabre, SASS #46770 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Looks to me like they're just coming up with a new answer to an old question. And not necessarily a better one. I remember seeing a Remington 870 with a stock like this in the '70s. Quote
Alpo Posted February 5 Posted February 5 That was the police model. I've never shot one, but I've been told that that short steel folding stocked kicked like a mother. 2 Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) I have a Mossberg Shockwave .Works well. Edited February 5 by Utah Bob #35998 Quote
DocWard Posted February 5 Posted February 5 37 minutes ago, Alpo said: That was the police model. I've never shot one, but I've been told that that short steel folding stocked kicked like a mother. My Guard unit had a few like those for civil disturbances. I recall them having wooden fore grip and pistol grip, and I don't recall if the steel stock folded or not. However, I can attest that after shooting it, I looked for the mule that had kicked me. Quote
Stump Water Posted February 5 Posted February 5 In my backpacking days I carried a .357 revolver on the pack's shoulder strap. If I were to pack somewhere that I thought I needed a 12 ga. shotgun it would not be folded up in my pack. "Mr. Bear (or Mr. Deliverance) please stand by while I take my pack off, get my shotgun out and assemble it." 3 Quote
Michigan Slim Posted February 6 Posted February 6 5 hours ago, Stump Water said: In my backpacking days I carried a .357 revolver on the pack's shoulder strap. If I were to pack somewhere that I thought I needed a 12 ga. shotgun it would not be folded up in my pack. "Mr. Bear (or Mr. Deliverance) please stand by while I take my pack off, get my shotgun out and assemble it." images (1).mp4 2 Quote
Pat Riot Posted February 6 Posted February 6 7 hours ago, Stump Water said: In my backpacking days I carried a .357 revolver on the pack's shoulder strap. If I were to pack somewhere that I thought I needed a 12 ga. shotgun it would not be folded up in my pack. "Mr. Bear (or Mr. Deliverance) please stand by while I take my pack off, get my shotgun out and assemble it." I think it’s more of a Go Bag gun, not a “Hold up a sec while I get into my bag to shoot you” gun. 1 Quote
watab kid Posted February 6 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, Pat Riot said: I think it’s more of a Go Bag gun, not a “Hold up a sec while I get into my bag to shoot you” gun. i agree , same as the KELTEC sub 2000 PCC 1 Quote
Alpo Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I wondered, when I read that post, if I was the only one that did not think that when you needed a gun you needed it immediately (I figure if I needed immediately I will have it in my hand). That seems to be the way it is in gun magazines - remember them? - and all over the internet. All holsters are not talked about how well they secure the gun, but how will they conceal the gun and how quick you can draw the gun from it. The one I posted on up the thread was designed specifically for camping. 20 gauge bolt action with a short barrel designed to fit in a backpack, to take it in the woods with you. It wasn't something you might need in the middle of beautiful downtown Burbank to fight off some Crips or some Bloods. 1 Quote
Pat Riot Posted February 6 Posted February 6 I have a Ruger PC Carbine that I recently put a Magpul Backpacker stock on. I really like this stocks and it is is made for packing the gun into a backpack for easy access when needed. You can store a spare magazine in the butt stock. I am pretty sure a Glock 26 mag could be inserted and left in the mag well with the gun assembled for backpack carry. I also have set it up for a sling since these photos were taken. @watab kid mentioned the Sub2000. I was going to buy one of those until I put this Backpacker stock on my PC Carbine. I may just buy another PC Carbine and set it up this way in my Go-Bag. 3 1 Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 16 hours ago, Stump Water said: In my backpacking days I carried a .357 revolver on the pack's shoulder strap. If I were to pack somewhere that I thought I needed a 12 ga. shotgun it would not be folded up in my pack. "Mr. Bear (or Mr. Deliverance) please stand by while I take my pack off, get my shotgun out and assemble it." 16 hours ago, Stump Water said: In my backpacking days I carried a .357 revolver on the pack's shoulder strap. If I were to pack somewhere that I thought I needed a 12 ga. shotgun it would not be folded up in my pack. "Mr. Bear (or Mr. Deliverance) please stand by while I take my pack off, get my shotgun out and assemble it." Mine was a 5 1/5" .45 Single Action Army in a shoulder holster and an Ithaca 37 Feather Light 18 1/4" 12 gauge on a sling. Still would be if I ever went back packing again. Quote
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pat Riot said: I have a Ruger PC Carbine that I recently put a Magpul Backpacker stock on Nice Pat! I wondered about that magpul stock. My PC Carbine lives in a violin case. 😁 edit: I also noticed you reversed the bolt handle too. I like to be able to work the action without removing my shooting hand from the grip. Edited February 6 by Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 2 Quote
Pat Riot Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 said: Nice Pat! I wondered about that magpul stock. My PC Carbine lives in a violin case. 😁 edit: I also noticed you reversed the bolt handle too. I like to be able to work the action without removing my shooting hand from the grip. Nice Case! I have a Savior Takedown Backpack that I have used for years before putting on the backpacker stock. I especially liked it when riding my motorcycle to the range. Yes, I like the bolt handle and the mag release on the left. It’s easier and immediately intuitive that way. Also, I kept the bolt handle and mg release “factory”. I did purchase a larger custom bolt handle and mg release and found out real quick that was a mistake. I caught the bolt handle on everything and bumped the mag release twice dropping 2 mags within a few minutes of each other. I put the factory parts back and sold the “custom” parts to someone else. I truly like my PC Carbine. So much so I am thinking about buying another one, just in case. We obviously have good taste. 3 Quote
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 That case has a second layer to it that holds two handguns and a bunch more mags. I truly love shooting this rifle. I suggest it to anybody who is after a 9mm carbine. Besides being a fantastic gun, in California it has the advantage of not falling into the "assault weapon" category. 2 Quote
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Back to backpack shotguns, I bought a NEF Mini Pardner many years ago in 20ga. Basically it is their single shot shotgun, with the barrel cut off at 18.5" and the stock cut at the required 26". thought it could easily slide into a backpack. Fun to shoot, after some practice it was fairly easy to hit what you pointed it at (there is no aiming). Was told many times it was illegal by know-it-alls at ranges. Even after explaining it was made like this at the factory. Got to where I would take a tape measure with me, just to prove it wasnt a "sawed off shotgun". I replaced the stock with a full sized stock long ago to make it a bit more useful. Fun to shoot a stage with occasionally. The pic below is one I found on google, I dont have any pictures from before I changed the stock. That was back in the "film camera" days. 2 Quote
Alpo Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Yeah them officious know it all types. I was at mule camp one year, wearing this. Many people complimented me on it, but there were many other officious types that needed to know that it was legal. NEEDED to know. I showed my paperwork many times. At the Friday night barbecue supper this guy is sitting on my right side so he is sitting right next to it. He looked down a couple of times, said that was a nice looking gun, then told me that I had better not let his friend Hank see it, because Hank was a sheriff in (some county) in North Carolina. I'm thinking - first, this is Georgia so good old sheriff Hank ain't got no more jurisdiction here than I do, and second, it's legal so screw him. Then he nudges his buddy sheriff Hank and says, "hey, you see what he's got over here!" Sheriff Hank did not even slow down his eating. "I'm sure it's legal." I wish more cops had that attitude. The fact of having something that MAY BE illegal does not give you probable cause to bust the guy. 2 Quote
Utah Bob #35998 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) The Mossberg comes with a letter from ATF stating it is not a prohibited firearm. Of course some states would disagree. Edited February 6 by Utah Bob #35998 1 Quote
watab kid Posted February 7 Posted February 7 12 hours ago, Pat Riot said: I have a Ruger PC Carbine that I recently put a Magpul Backpacker stock on. I really like this stocks and it is is made for packing the gun into a backpack for easy access when needed. You can store a spare magazine in the butt stock. I am pretty sure a Glock 26 mag could be inserted and left in the mag well with the gun assembled for backpack carry. I also have set it up for a sling since these photos were taken. @watab kid mentioned the Sub2000. I was going to buy one of those until I put this Backpacker stock on my PC Carbine. I may just buy another PC Carbine and set it up this way in my Go-Bag. thats a nice setup , i see why you like it , , there is a new version of the sub 2000 out now that is more fold friendly - dont have to take the optic off like i di mine 1 Quote
Lawdog Dago Dom Posted February 7 Author Posted February 7 4 hours ago, Alpo said: Yeah them officious know it all types. I was at mule camp one year, wearing this. Many people complimented me on it, but there were many other officious types that needed to know that it was legal. NEEDED to know. I showed my paperwork many times. At the Friday night barbecue supper this guy is sitting on my right side so he is sitting right next to it. He looked down a couple of times, said that was a nice looking gun, then told me that I had better not let his friend Hank see it, because Hank was a sheriff in (some county) in North Carolina. I'm thinking - first, this is Georgia so good old sheriff Hank ain't got no more jurisdiction here than I do, and second, it's legal so screw him. Then he nudges his buddy sheriff Hank and says, "hey, you see what he's got over here!" Sheriff Hank did not even slow down his eating. "I'm sure it's legal." I wish more cops had that attitude. The fact of having something that MAY BE illegal does not give you probable cause to bust the guy. I bet Hank told his "buddy" to keep his trap shut about stuff like that on the way home. Most LEOs when off duty and enjoying themselves with a group or gathering. A- don't want to be identified as such, and B- don't want to be drawn into legal issues. They just want to enjoy where they are. 3 Quote
Rip Snorter Posted February 7 Posted February 7 A coach gun, legal, is short enough to be handy as are the 870 and 1100 Special Field. Whatever floats your boat. I don't find the prospect of operating in gray zones of the law to be appealing. Quote
Rough 'N Ready Rob Posted February 7 Posted February 7 I would think a 97 takedown with a short barrel and stock would fit just fine in a back pack, slugs for bears and shot for dinner. Quote
Michigan Slim Posted February 8 Posted February 8 This was my grandpa's. I just received it. H&R 16 gauge. Never seen one before. The model 12 is a 16 also and was given to me at the same time. 1 Quote
watab kid Posted February 8 Posted February 8 i really no longer have need for this but keep one in my car when traveling just because , - has a pcc and a hi cap pistol in it as well as a FS knife .....just because 1 Quote
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