Subdeacon Joe Posted February 3 Posted February 3 That's not a torpedo. That's a round for the AR-15 Assault Murder Mass Destruction Ghost Rifle. They come in 30 magazine clips that are fired in half a second. https://www.fox10tv.com/2026/02/02/torpedo-found-escambia-county-boat-ramp-safely-removed/ 7 Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Inaccurate reporting? Honestly, when was the last time you saw any other kind? 5 Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 12 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Inaccurate reporting? Honestly, when was the last time you saw any other kind? Daily Quote
Forty Rod SASS 3935 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 19 minutes ago, Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 said: Daily Pray tell me where! I don't see ANY totally accurate reporting by any media. Quote
Pat Riot Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Judging by all the trash ads my guess is Fox TV has been bought out by The National Enquirer. 1 1 Quote
Marshal Mo Hare, SASS #45984 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 18 minutes ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Pray tell me where! I don't see ANY totally accurate reporting by any media. private sources, sorry. Quote
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 It used to be that they'd deliver the news then have an editorial page or it's equivalent on TV or radio. Now almost all reporting has some form of editorializing in it. Not that yesterday's news was completely without bias but it's much worse now. 2 Quote
Capt. James H. Callahan Posted February 4 Posted February 4 6 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said: Inaccurate reporting? Honestly, when was the last time you saw any other kind? Huntley and Brinkley, maybe Walter Cronkite. Could also have been that way back then, just not as obvious as now. JHC Quote
John Kloehr Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: It used to be that they'd deliver the news then have an editorial page or it's equivalent on TV or radio. Now almost all reporting has some form of editorializing in it. Not that yesterday's news was completely without bias but it's much worse now. Very true. Reuters and AP feeds used to be factual, "who, what, when, where, why, and how" in order of importance (traditional journalism devoid of any bias). Today, they choose to apply labels like "victim" and "assailant" to parties. This is done explicitly in some case, and is implied in other cases. The entire "alleged" verbiage has to do with international law, an informed reader should simply recognize it as such. The labels are not facts, they are (pre) judgements and belong in what used to be editorial content. Examples would be (assuming the second example is true): The officer defended himself against and arrested the rioter (bias) The officer arrested the protestor after a struggle (factual) The officer assaulted and arrested the peaceful protestor (bias) Defended, assaulted, rioter, and peaceful are opinions not related to a struggle or an arrest. Edited February 4 by John Kloehr Otto 4 Quote
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 You don’t need to read past the first paragraph, where it becomes evident the “reporting” style leaves itself wide open to personal narratives and inherent biases instead of objectivity. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Journalism 3 Quote
Dapper Dave Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Was that in France? If so, it still bears the residue of..."removal"... Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 The myth of a unbiased press sprung up and quickly became entrenched as a universal truth. If it ever existed it was a short lived aberration in history. Dig through archives of newspapers and broadsides from the 1800s and early 1900s. News stories are filled with political and racial bias. 3 Quote
watab kid Posted February 5 Posted February 5 20 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: The myth of a unbiased press sprung up and quickly became entrenched as a universal truth. If it ever existed it was a short lived aberration in history. Dig through archives of newspapers and broadsides from the 1800s and early 1900s. News stories are filled with political and racial bias. agreed , particularly as they related to politics since before the revolution , 1 Quote
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 21 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said: The myth of a unbiased press sprung up and quickly became entrenched as a universal truth. If it ever existed it was a short lived aberration in history. Dig through archives of newspapers and broadsides from the 1800s and early 1900s. News stories are filled with political and racial bias. Yup. When the term “yellow journalism” was coined. 2 Quote
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 42 minutes ago, Dapper Dave said: The Yellow Kid ? Not familiar with that one. You may already know this Dave. Yellow journalism was coined because of the cheap yellow newspaper those stories were printed on. Kinda like the cheap pulp/dime novels (pulp fiction) - a reference to the low grade paper used for printing and the retail cost of the book. 1 Quote
Dapper Dave Posted February 5 Posted February 5 The Yellow Kid was a cartoon from the late 1800s through the early 1900s and his name was part of the reason why it was called yellow journalism sensationalized and sometimes fictitious "reporting", from what I read back in the day. 1 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 The only news I trust is Fox News and they have their biases as well. As far as the news Brett Baier is the best. He’s non political, he also interviews people from both sides. Quote
watab kid Posted February 6 Posted February 6 im with you rye , i always take everything with a grain of salt , but this is where i generally go because they do relate the facts , tend not to exclude the other point view often including a member of the opposition in the discussion , i like the "five" 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 6 Author Posted February 6 .It didn't take long to get from Accuracy to Bias . Similar but not the same. Re: bias. I've pretty much given up on watching the news, other than the morning local news. If something of interest or importance pops up in my FB feed I'll look it up. For the last year 7/8 of it has been politicians, social scientists, and the like spewing the whine of the week about our republic. Quote
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 14 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: The only news I trust is Fox News and they have their biases as well. As far as the news Brett Baier is the best. He’s non political, he also interviews people from both sides. We’ve had this conversation before in another thread. I repeat, Fox News online is a different animal than you describe of FOX TV news. Clickbait headlines and articles reminiscent of the National Enquirer. When it comes to media, pick your poison. 1 Quote
watab kid Posted February 6 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: We’ve had this conversation before in another thread. I repeat, Fox News online is a different animal than you describe of FOX TV news. Clickbait headlines and articles reminiscent of the National Enquirer. When it comes to media, pick your poison. i dont use facebook or any of the click bait stuff - im not going to feed their economy if i can help it 1 Quote
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Of course there's always been bias in news reporting. But they now make no attempt to be subtle about it or hide it. And largely it was clearly labeled as editorial commentary. 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 4 hours ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: Of course there's always been bias in news reporting. But they now make no attempt to be subtle about it or hide it. And largely it was clearly labeled as editorial commentary. Not true of Fox News’ Brett Baier at 6. He has often a panel of at least one .from the other side. He also does an interview with a democrat and republican that are working on something together. I think he’s the most unbiased news reporter on TV. Quote
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 4 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Not true of Fox News’ Brett Baier at 6. He has often a panel of at least one .from the other side. He also does an interview with a democrat and republican that are working on something together. I think he’s the most unbiased news reporter on TV. Well he's an exception. Nothings 100%. He's one guy out of hundreds, thousands. Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 25 minutes ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: Well he's an exception. Nothings 100%. He's one guy out of hundreds, thousands. I didn’t say he was 100%, but he’s the best of all of them currently! Quote
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 Just now, Rye Miles #13621 said: I didn’t say he was 100%, but he’s the best of all of them currently! I didn't mean he was 100%. Referring to the percentages of wildly biased to the occasional fair reporting. 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 6 Author Posted February 6 11 hours ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: Of course there's always been bias in news reporting. But they now make no attempt to be subtle about it or hide it. And largely it was clearly labeled as editorial commentary. Go back to the 1800s and early 1900s and you will see that much of the "straight news" used much more biased language than is used today, and used more openly. 1 Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 33 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said: Go back to the 1800s and early 1900s and you will see that much of the "straight news" used much more biased language than is used today, and used more openly. Some of the political cartoons back then were outrageous! 1 Quote
Subdeacon Joe Posted February 6 Author Posted February 6 39 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said: Some of the political cartoons back then were outrageous! Inflammatory rhetoric was the rule of the day. My favorite examples are the NY Times articles about the Pawpaw Rebellion. Two such: https://www.nytimes.com/1864/07/28/archives/the-guerrillas-in-missouri-movements-of-thornton-capture-of.html LEAVENWORTH, Kansas, Tuesday, July 10, 1864. We have had another of our periodical spasms of marauding and bushwhacking, But in this instance the exhibition of its inseneate spirit was given in a different district, and with more strongly marked features of treason, arson and robbery. The telegraph has conveyed to your readers some of the facts relating to the recent rebellion of a portion of the Missouri enrolled militia https://www.nytimes.com/1864/07/21/archives/operations-of-the-guerrillas-platte-city-captured-and-burnt-by.html From the St. Joseph Herald, July 16. From passengers who arrived last night from below, we learn Platte City was almost destroyed yesterday morning by the Federal troops. Not over half the houses were left standing. The Methodist Church, a fine building, the Sentinel printing office, and the three-story brick block in which it was located, together with many business and dwelling-houses are all in ashes. Thus has vengeance, swift and dire, been visited upon a people who not only basely and cowardly surrendered themselves to THORNTON's thieves and murderers, but who also welcomed the villains with every demonstration of affection and delight. The town was a nest-hole of treason. Not over a half dozen Union families residing there. Desolation and destruction have swept over it, and if the report brought us be true, the work has been most thoroughly performed. While we fear the few Union men of the place have been caused to suffer in property, and perhaps in life, we have not the slightest sympathy with the rebels. Quote
Rye Miles #13621 Posted February 7 Posted February 7 Can’t read the article unless you make an account. Quote
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