Lawdog Dago Dom Posted January 21 Posted January 21 https://www.theoutdoorwire.com/features/2026/01/suppressors-where-we-stand-20-days-in/ 1 Quote
Blackwater 53393 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 The numbers immediately indicate that suppressors are now “IN COMMON USE FOR LEGAL PURPOSES “ and therefore SHOULD BE REMOVED ENTIRELY FROM NFA REGULATION!! 2 2 Quote
Pat Riot Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Have you seen this? I am definitely interested in trying these. Especially the Skarv22 https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/lowering-decibels-for-less-lyman-s-new-sonicore-suppressor-lineup/ 1 1 Quote
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted January 21 Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, Pat Riot said: Have you seen this? I am definitely interested in trying these. Especially the Skarv22 https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/lowering-decibels-for-less-lyman-s-new-sonicore-suppressor-lineup/ Couldn't see any prices. Quote
Outlaw Gambler Posted January 21 Posted January 21 me either. did you have your glasses n Lumpy? 1 Quote
Windy City Kid Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Still can't have them in IL, cuz then we can't hear the bangers in crook county. Quote
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Couldn't see any prices. Right at the end of the article, $200 to $300 2 Quote
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I’ve never considered getting one given the (former) tax and expense that typically hovered at $900-$1,200. With this new offering, they’re now within reach, but I know nothing about them other than what they’re supposed to do. I’m now considering one for my 5.56 AR. What separates a $300 suppressor from a $1,200 one? I don’t shoot my rifles indoors, so maximum “silencing” isn’t important. Quote
Crooked River Pete, SASS 43485 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: What separates a $300 suppressor from a $1,200 one? Build quality, titanium vs aluminum among other things. Got one for a .22 but every one else at the range is shooting unsuppressed, so I still need hearing protection. I want one for a 9mm in case I do need to shoot indoors. Quote
Crazy Gun Barney, SASS #2428 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 24 minutes ago, Texas Joker said: What separates a $300 ar from a $1200 ar? a known brand name, and fancy brand name stock, grip and handguard. 1 1 Quote
Abilene Slim SASS 81783 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Texas Joker said: What separates a $300 ar from a $1200 ar? $900. Barney summed up the rest. Which leaves the question about suppressors unanswered. Quote
JD Lud Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Big thing now is old and new tech for them. traditional baffles of days past vs new 3d printed that allows for not just noise suppression but gas flow while doing it. Semi auto it’s not just how quiet…it’s gas flow in face and how quick they get super hot. After and having and using three, society has this backwards and using should be encouraged/required as shooting with them is so nice. Kids love it shooting 22s hearing safe, wife loves it etc….i only want to shoot suppressed. It totally changes a shooting outing in a good way. 5.56 is still supersonic and going to crack…it just takes the sting out of it but it’s a hard one to get hearing safe. You can get a 30 cal can and put it on a 5.56 without much if any loss with the right quality can like a CAT ODB. the most fun thing suppressed is a 22LR. With a cci 22 quiet you here the click if the trigger and the bullet hitting the target. Rugged Occulus for example. 45acp is good as it’s naturally subsonic out of pistols much of the time. Hearing safe suppresses without ear pro.l most of time limited use. Rugged Obsidian 45 for example. 300 blackout is great with subsonic loads in an AR pistol but expensive. Super quiet with subsonic bolt gun as well. Ones my wife didn’t want to shoot are suddenly fun. Haven’t tried my Marlin 1886 SBL 45-70 yet but just bought the thread adapter for it to try….and can buy or load subsonic 45-70 to quiet it more. 2 Quote
John Kloehr Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JD Lud said: Big thing now is old and new tech for them. traditional baffles of days past vs new 3d printed that allows for not just noise suppression but gas flow while doing it. Semi auto it’s not just how quiet…it’s gas flow in face and how quick they get super hot. 300 blackout is great with subsonic loads in an AR pistol but expensive. Super quiet with subsonic bolt gun as well. On 3D printing, also shape of the baffles (certain curves rather than simple "washers") can improve noise cancelation. There are some good papers on this out there plus reading certain patent applications. On 300 Blackout, I have this in my (re)loading plans for a suppressed SBR build I am in the middle of (stalled on availability of a no-go headspace gauge, Forster is 10 to 12 weeks out on production); had the tax stamp for years and finally getting to it. Should be a fun range toy. For the last year or few, I have been buying at least one box of every subsonic ammo in this caliber I have come across. Looking forward to testing. Edited January 22 by John Kloehr My typo, Otto gets a free pass this time Quote
watab kid Posted January 22 Posted January 22 id not considered one before but i now am as well , i just gotta figure out what i want it on Quote
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Sandman K on my Ruger American 300 Blackout 220gr subsonic ammo sounds like a 22. Quote
Cholla Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I ordered my second suppressor in mid-December from Silencer Central since they were paying the tax. Both of mine are the Banish Gold 30 with a built-in muzzle brake. They are serviceable and can be taken apart for cleaning. I have been using the one I have in hand for every hunting and target rifle with a threaded muzzle I shoot. I got so used to having it on, I shot one of the rifles without it just to compare. Even with ear plugs in, there was a significant difference, enough that I vowed not to shoot it again with the suppressor! The military did a study on the effects of muzzle blasts without a suppressor. They found that a day at the range, even with ear protection, caused symptoms like a concussion. 1 Quote
Still hand Bill Posted January 22 Posted January 22 20 hours ago, Abilene Slim SASS 81783 said: I’ve never considered getting one given the (former) tax and expense that typically hovered at $900-$1,200. With this new offering, they’re now within reach, but I know nothing about them other than what they’re supposed to do. I’m now considering one for my 5.56 AR. What separates a $300 suppressor from a $1,200 one? I don’t shoot my rifles indoors, so maximum “silencing” isn’t important. Mostly materials and weight. Cheap suppressors tend to either be aluminum or steel. Steel is durable, but heavy. Aluminum is light, but imho not a great material for a suppressor, especially on an AR with a short barrel. Honestly on an AR, almost anything will work. They just are not quiet due to the design. Thus a quiet suppressor isn’t a big advantage. If you are doing mag dumps, then you want a can with inconel blast baffles. It will be heavier, but will stand up to the heat and powder erosion. aluminum is cheap and light, but can’t handle heat ( melts at about 1300f). Mag dumps will melt an aluminum can. Also aluminum can’t be cleaned with most dip methods as the dip eats the aluminum. Works fine if you mechanically clean and don’t get them too hot. Titanium is light and reasonably durable, but also will run about 1k currently. Doesn’t like getting too hot as it degrades the can. Will handle more heat than aluminum. Also handles the cleaning dip with no issues. steel is cheap, and can be durable, but is heavy. Can be a good choice for AR’s. An inexpensive good can the, AB A-10. Runs sub $500 for the 30 cal. I have one that lives on an AR. Basically it’s a slightly heavier, louder version of their premium Raptor (Ti) can. They use one less baffle and stainless to keep weight close. I would not go for a 556 only can unless it was on a hunting rifle and then it would be an airlock industries. 2 Quote
Still hand Bill Posted January 22 Posted January 22 12 hours ago, JD Lud said: Ones my wife didn’t want to shoot are suddenly fun. Haven’t tried my Marlin 1886 SBL 45-70 yet but just bought the thread adapter for it to try….and can buy or load subsonic 45-70 to quiet it more. 45-70 needs a big can to be even reasonably quiet. With subs it’s a bunch of fun. Also reduces recoil a lot making them more pleasant to shoot. Maker offers some great sub bullets for hunting. Unfortunately there are not a lot of big bore cans compared to 30 cal. Quote
Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I was told "A Certain Agency" of the Federal government used a suppressed .22 in "A Certain Swampy Part of SE Asia" ... I was told the pistol looked like a Ruger Standard Model bull barrel, but was not a bull barrel, it was an integral suppressor. THAT would be the one to have! Quote
watab kid Posted January 23 Posted January 23 15 hours ago, Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 said: I was told "A Certain Agency" of the Federal government used a suppressed .22 in "A Certain Swampy Part of SE Asia" ... I was told the pistol looked like a Ruger Standard Model bull barrel, but was not a bull barrel, it was an integral suppressor. THAT would be the one to have! i cant disagree here , ive liked my S&W M39 for the same reasons - just a nice one to have 1 Quote
sassnetguy50 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 @Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 https://smallarmsreview.com/the-ruger-mac-mki-vietnams-silent-service/ 4 Quote
Dapper Dave Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I only have two firearms with threaded barrels, that I never really considered putting 'cans on due to the pain in the patooty. That might change - the little KelTec P-17 might be a real hoot suppressed. 'Course, I gotta ask the lady wife - it's her gun... [img]https://i.imgur.com/pRVSzFu.jpg[/img] 1 Quote
Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, sassnetguy50 said: @Linn Keller, SASS 27332, BOLD 103 https://smallarmsreview.com/the-ruger-mac-mki-vietnams-silent-service/ By golly now THANK YOU!!! -- this is more and better information than I had! 😁😁😁 3 Quote
Cholla Posted January 23 Posted January 23 12 hours ago, Dapper Dave said: I only have two firearms with threaded barrels, that I never really considered putting 'cans on due to the pain in the patooty. That might change - the little KelTec P-17 might be a real hoot suppressed. 'Course, I gotta ask the lady wife - it's her gun... [img]https://i.imgur.com/pRVSzFu.jpg[/img] Once the rush has died down, it should be easy. At least one shop here in Prescott is a stocking dealer, meaning once you're approved, you walk out with the suppressor. Before the rush, they had a guy apply and get approved before he got home. He was upset that he had to turn around and get his suppressor! (He heard he would complain about being hanged with a new rope.) Silencer Co has dealers with Kieoks that take your photos and fingerprints. Had I used them, I would be done by now. Instead, I used Silencer Central, and they mail the fingerprint cards, which adds two weeks. I was hoping to avoid the rush, but didn't make it in time. 1 Quote
Dapper Dave Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I used the kiosk already, just happened to stop by a gunshop with one the other day, so my account is ready. 1 Quote
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