Sheriff Dill Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I know it’s hard without knowing serial number or condition. But what would be a fair price for a model 12. 12 ga.
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Well, a quick look on various used gun sites, a generic one with nothing special about in is fair, shootable condition seems to be in the $350 to $800 range. "Better" ones seem to get up the $1500 range. Really high end ones in pristine condition seem to be going for multiple thousands of dollars, but that looks to be an outlier for REALLY top of the line stuff.
Sheriff Dill Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 Our LGS has one for 300 and one with a poly choke(assuming this one isn’t SASS approved ) for 350. Not sure of actual condition as I can only see photos online right now.
Jack Spade Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Either one of those will make a good wild bunch gun. You will want to shorten the barrel anyway so the poly choke will be cut off.
Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life Posted January 15 Posted January 15 last May I had zero model 12 Winchester sg. I now have five! four were original with 28” - 30” (i think) barrels, little tiny bead and okay actions/ triggers. One was an already “sporterized” cut down 3” version with fire sights, very smooth! I am told it is not ideal for WB so haven’t tried in a match yet, (need to change sights) but it is easy to rack and balances well. $640 otd at lgs. One had been reblued which Boggus Deal worked on and it is now 22” and my main match gun! $800 or so in it with shipping etc. Two I bought at auction for $450 each and they are off for BD to slick up! Expect done some where around EOT with $2-$3 hundred each more in them. One 90 % blue left, one about 75%. Last one was a match ready gun, 19 1/2” 95% blue that we will see. It feels “short” but is quick to use. $875. IMHO. Somewhere around $4-5 for a stock gun with decent blue, gunsmith add between $250 to $350. plus shipping, around $50, plus background check about $30, plus Colorado charges 6% for gun related items on top of sales tax. Overall anything under $850 is a good price for a match ready gun. So like a car, purchase price is just a starting point. Your location will influence price quite a bit. Regards Gateway Kid
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I’ll take either of those you don’t want. Let me know where they’re at.
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 34 minutes ago, Gateway Kid SASS# 70038 Life said: last May I had zero model 12 Winchester sg. I now have five! four were original with 28” - 30” (i think) barrels, little tiny bead and okay actions/ triggers. One was an already “sporterized” cut down 3” version with fire sights, very smooth! I am told it is not ideal for WB so haven’t tried in a match yet, (need to change sights) but it is easy to rack and balances well. $640 otd at lgs. One had been reblued which Boggus Deal worked on and it is now 22” and my main match gun! $800 or so in it with shipping etc. Two I bought at auction for $450 each and they are off for BD to slick up! Expect done some where around EOT with $2-$3 hundred each more in them. One 90 % blue left, one about 75%. Last one was a match ready gun, 19 1/2” 95% blue that we will see. It feels “short” but is quick to use. $875. IMHO. Somewhere around $4-5 for a stock gun with decent blue, gunsmith add between $250 to $350. plus shipping, around $50, plus background check about $30, plus Colorado charges 6% for gun related items on top of sales tax. Overall anything under $850 is a good price for a match ready gun. So like a car, purchase price is just a starting point. Your location will influence price quite a bit. Regards Gateway Kid Thank you for your support, my friend!
Three Foot Johnson Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Those are decent prices - negotiate a package deal and buy 'em both. Six years ago, I picked up this 1959 model from Gunbroker for $116 because the seller bragged up all the bad stuff about it and none of the good stuff. The stock was paint speckled, the mag tube was dented in a couple places and wouldn't load or feed shells, one of the mag tube cap screws was missing, the mag tube was 180 degrees off so it wouldn't lock into place and held there by a piece of wire twisted around it, the barrel had a small bulge about three inches back (I was going to cut it anyway), the slide handle retaining spring was missing (unnecessary for function), some rust, and full of old dried grease. I spent a few hours one afternoon fixing things, and have shot it six years in WB with no problems.
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I don't have a model 12, yet, but probably will some day. To use for Wild Bunch, you want it just like you'd want a 97 for Cowboy, with a 30" full choke barrel. Long barrels are better. And they are cool.
Go West Posted January 15 Posted January 15 When I searched for a 12, I downloaded a year/serial number guide to help me determine age of various ones for sale. I ended up with a nice 1963 built gun for just under $500 counting all fees.
Howlin Mad Murdock SASS #4037 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Quite a few here. https://www.proxibid.com/Duke-Auction-Service/Winter-2026-Firearm-Auction/event-catalog/291150?srch=&srchloc=true&ipp=100&sort=0
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 22 minutes ago, Howlin Mad Murdock SASS #4037 said: Quite a few here. https://www.proxibid.com/Duke-Auction-Service/Winter-2026-Firearm-Auction/event-catalog/291150?srch=&srchloc=true&ipp=100&sort=0 Possibly some deals if they don’t get stupid like a lot of auctions.
Leroy Luck Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Maybe I live under a rock… but is 15% premium PLUS a 4.25% CC fee PLUS a $20 transfer fee PER FIREARM normal in the auction world? Plus the transfer fee you’ll pay wherever you have anything sent. Seems ridiculous and out of line to me.
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Leroy Luck said: Maybe I live under a rock… but is 15% premium PLUS a 4.25% CC fee PLUS a $20 transfer fee PER FIREARM normal in the auction world? Plus the transfer fee you’ll pay wherever you have anything sent. Seems ridiculous and out of line to me. That’s where you have to be careful with auctions. If the purchase price gets too high, the add ons put it over the top. Much better to buy local or here on the wires.
Sheriff Dill Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Go West said: When I searched for a 12, I downloaded a year/serial number guide to help me determine age of various ones for sale. I ended up with a nice 1963 built gun for just under $500 counting all fees. Do you have the name of that all. Plan to get serial numbers today
Eyesa Horg Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 minutes ago, Sheriff Dill said: Do you have the name of that all. Plan to get serial numbers today https://winchestercollector.org/dates/
Go West Posted January 15 Posted January 15 YEAR Serial Numbers Ending YEAR Serial Numbers Ending 1912 1 5,308 1938 754,251 779,455 1913 5,309 32,418 1939 779,456 814,121 1914 32,419 79,765 1940 814,122 856,499 1915 79,766 109,515 1941 856,500 907,431 1916 109,516 136,412 1942 907,432 958,303 1917 136,413 159,391 1943 958,304 975,640 1918 159,392 183,461 1944 975,641 975,727 1919 183,462 219,457 1945 975,728 990,004 1920 219,458 247,458 1946 990,005 1,029,152 1921 247,459 267,253 1947 1,029,153 1,102,371 1922 267,254 304,314 1948 1,102,372 1,176,055 1923 304,315 346,319 1949 1,176,056 1,214,041 1924 306,320 385,196 1950 1,214,042 1,252,028 1925 385,197 423,056 1951 1,252,029 1,290,015 1926 423,057 464,564 1952 1,290,016 1,328,002 1927 464,565 510,693 1953 1,328,003 1,399,996 1928 510,694 557,850 1954 1,399,997 1,471,991 1929 557,851 600,834 1955 1,471,992 1,541,929 1930 600,835 626,996 1956 1,541,930 1,611,868 1931 626,997 651,255 1957 1,611,869 1,651,435 1932 651,256 660,110 1958 1,651,436 1,690,999 1933 660,111 664,544 1959 1,691,000 1,795,500 1934 664,545 673,994 1960 1,795,501 1,800,000 1935 673,995 686,978 1961 1,800,001 1,854,794 1936 686,979 720,316 1962 1,854,795 1,909,588 1937 720,317 754,250 1963 1,909,589 1,964,384 Here is one example. I don't recall exactly which one I downloaded.
Sheriff Dill Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 Are there particular years that are worth more than others or better than others ?
Boggus Deal #64218 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 1 minute ago, Sheriff Dill said: Are there particular years that are worth more than others or better than others ? Not really. I prefer the stocks on the mid ‘30s and up. Otherwise, they’re practically all the same.
Go West Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I purchased mine based on price and condition, it just so happened to be made in 1963. I did the "buy now" feature and there were no CC fees. 28" barrel, very good bluing, no cracks in stock, decent furniture.
Shawnee Hills Posted January 15 Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Boggus Deal #64218 said: That’s where you have to be careful with auctions. If the purchase price gets too high, the add ons put it over the top. Much better to buy local or here on the wires. Buyer's premiums have been around for a while now but, yes, makes for one more thing to watch when bidding. Typically, the markup applies consistently to on-line and in-person bidders but this particular auction is not doing that. Since I am in reasonable driving distance, I asked if there would be an in-person auction on Saturday and if the buyer's premium applied. The answer was that, yes, there would be an in-person auction but the 15% markup would only apply to the on-line bidders. While that may allow more headroom for the locals to pay, it seems like a slimy way to do business. I'm staying home.
Howlin Mad Murdock SASS #4037 Posted January 15 Posted January 15 I've gotten quite a few really good deals through proxibid, way better than gunbroker. You have to do your homework and some math. Figure out max you would pay then subtract buyer's fees, tax, shipping and FFL fee, then bid that much and forget about it. I won two '97s and two model 12s in the last few months and paid less than $400 each, one under $300, all in, and they are really nice. If you don't win, no biggie, there will be more every week.
Sheriff Dill Posted January 15 Author Posted January 15 Whenever I’ve found guns on GB I have always looked at the cost compared to what I would have to pay at my local shops. Most of the times I’ve my local shops are quite a bit cheaper
Mayhem Mae Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Bought a 1938 12 gauge with poly choke at a gun show in December. Was a family gun in nice condition. Paid $550.
"Big Boston" Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Considering the difference in dollar value, the ones in Canada are about that 300 to 800 in CAD. But: Condition is the key. At some point in the condition scale, it's better to pass at any price. I only have two 12s, one was 350 and came with a bit of a damaged rear stock, but was in decent operational condition. I fixed the stock, and have used it for WB. The other was a safe queen of sorts. The oil was so gummed up it would not take down. I did eventually get it apart, and I'm thinking the sellers claim that it was unfired is likely true. The story is he won it at bingo, took it home and never used it. Our local Cabelas had it for sale, just under the 800 mark, so I bought it. I haven't fired it yet, and i've not shortened the barrel either. Caveat: I am referring to the plain jane model 12, not the trap version, not the magnum, not the vent rib, IOW no options and with plain wood. They top one is the allegedly unfired one, the bottom one was shortened when I got it, it appears as the end of the barrel was damaged. I changed the forend. Both are mid 50s production. (Sad picture in a way, my chocolate lab was hit by a pickup truck.) We have a 4 mo Lab Retriever now, a cross. She is a good natured high energy pup. She's a bit over 9 weeks old in the picture. Just thinking, a lab pup and a Model 12, life's good. BB
Sheriff Dill Posted January 16 Author Posted January 16 1 hour ago, "Big Boston" said: Considering the difference in dollar value, the ones in Canada are about that 300 to 800 in CAD. But: Condition is the key. At some point in the condition scale, it's better to pass at any price. I only have two 12s, one was 350 and came with a bit of a damaged rear stock, but was in decent operational condition. I fixed the stock, and have used it for WB. The other was a safe queen of sorts. The oil was so gummed up it would not take down. I did eventually get it apart, and I'm thinking the sellers claim that it was unfired is likely true. The story is he won it at bingo, took it home and never used it. Our local Cabelas had it for sale, just under the 800 mark, so I bought it. I haven't fired it yet, and i've not shortened the barrel either. Caveat: I am referring to the plain jane model 12, not the trap version, not the magnum, not the vent rib, IOW no options and with plain wood. They top one is the allegedly unfired one, the bottom one was shortened when I got it, it appears as the end of the barrel was damaged. I changed the forend. Both are mid 50s production. (Sad picture in a way, my chocolate lab was hit by a pickup truck.) We have a 4 mo Lab Retriever now, a cross. She is a good natured high energy pup. She's a bit over 9 weeks old in the picture. Just thinking, a lab pup and a Model 12, life's good. BB Cute pup. We. Currently have 15 golden retrievers that range from 16 hrs old to 1 week old
"Big Boston" Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I'd like to take a bit of a detour on this thread, concerning dog breeds. I know my pup is a not a pure lab. Her mother was a chocolate, the dad was in a kennel, I didn't get a good look, but he was big with a loud bark, light in color. Her first vet card listed her as a lab retriever. I've told friends that she is a yellow lab (cross) but her fur is growing long and wavy, not like a yellow lab. Any thoughts?
Rip Snorter Posted January 17 Posted January 17 I have a pedigreed Long Haired Lab - 70# range. They are a genetic throwback. Great dog redder, longer fur than yours. Yours could be all Lab.
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